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19:57:50 <Caroline> Chair: Caroline
20:00:35 <Caroline> Present+ Caroline
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20:05:09 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
20:05:09 <Zakim> Present: Caroline, annette_g, antoine
20:05:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see antoine, riccardoAlbertoni, annette_g, RRSAgent, Zakim, Caroline, dsr, hadleybeeman, bigbluehat, rhiaro, trackbot
20:05:19 <Caroline> regrets+ Makx
20:05:54 <Caroline> Scribe: antoine
20:06:01 <antoine> scribenick: antoine
20:06:43 <antoine> rrsgent, please draft minutes v2
20:06:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
20:07:11 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes v2
20:07:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/05/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
20:07:15 <antoine> Topic: Admin
20:07:17 <Caroline> https://www.w3.org/2020/04/28-dxwg-minutes
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20:07:36 <antoine> Proposed: to accept last call's minutes
20:07:40 <antoine> 0 (not here)
20:07:40 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:07:41 <Caroline> +1
20:07:43 <annette_g> +1
20:07:45 <Ana_> present+ Ana
20:07:56 <antoine> Resolved: accept https://www.w3.org/2020/04/28-dxwg-minutes
20:08:28 <antoine> Topic: Conneg
20:09:15 <antoine> Caroline: we've discussed with Philippe, we agreed it would be good to come back to the issues
20:09:23 <antoine> ... and see how we can go from there
20:09:42 <Caroline> https://github.com/w3c/dx-connegp/issues
20:09:46 <antoine> ... this is why we've added the links in the agenda to the open issues
20:10:11 <antoine> ... anyone want to comment?
20:10:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:10:30 <Caroline> ack riccardoAlbertoni
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20:12:19 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: I can't discuss about these two topics, as I've focused on DCAT
20:12:36 <antoine> ... not followed the discussion
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20:12:43 <antoine> q+
20:12:54 <AndreaPerego> present+
20:13:24 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: if we want to discuss specific issues, it would be great to have them specifically in the agenda
20:13:40 <antoine> +1 but this needs to be curated by editors, I think
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20:15:57 <antoine> s/Conneg/Conneg and PROF
20:16:06 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes v2
20:16:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/05/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
20:18:44 <antoine> antoine: nick has worked on a PR for the PROF implementation report: https://github.com/w3c/dx-prof/pull/38
20:20:12 <antoine> ... I have approved it
20:20:36 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:20:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/05/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:20:37 <antoine> ... so there is work in progress. I understand that this is an attempt to present a first "real" version to the group.
20:21:07 <antoine> ACTION: Caroline_ to reach out to Nick and Rob about organizing work
20:21:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-422 - Reach out to nick and rob about organizing work [on Caroline Burle - due 2020-05-19].
20:21:24 <antoine> Topic: DCAT
20:21:26 <Caroline_> q?
20:21:30 <antoine> q-
20:21:31 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:21:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/05/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:21:35 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:21:46 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:21:56 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: we had a call 2 weeks ago
20:22:15 <antoine> ... mostly about definition of datasets
20:22:20 <AndreaPerego> meeting: DXWG Plenary
20:22:30 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2020.05.12
20:22:33 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:22:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/05/12-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:22:34 <antoine> ... if a software is a kind of dataset. It was a long discussion
20:23:37 <antoine> ... We have a general feeling that someone was asking for an harmonization of the definition across standards.
20:23:50 <antoine> ... We agreed that we shouldn't over-define the notion of datasets.
20:24:05 <antoine> ... Alejandra was assigned to summarize the discussion
20:24:26 <AndreaPerego> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Material-for-a-SPRINT-on-Versioning
20:24:28 <riccardoAlbertoni>   https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Material-for-a-SPRINT-on-Versioning
20:24:30 <antoine> ... This week, there's been progressed on how to model versions
20:25:11 <antoine> ... the wiki page above lists relevant vocabularies
20:25:28 <antoine> ... In the next discussion we will discuss whether we can adapt one of them.
20:25:49 <AndreaPerego> Nothing to add from my side.
20:26:14 <Caroline_> q?
20:26:29 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:26:35 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:26:57 <antoine> AndreaPerego: maybe people can check the page we've prepared
20:27:17 <antoine> ... give us feedback if we've missed something
20:27:51 <antoine> Caroline_: it would be nice to send an email to the group
20:27:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> ok,
20:27:54 <antoine> q+
20:28:02 <Caroline_> q?
20:28:06 <riccardoAlbertoni>  I can do it
20:28:12 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:28:22 <Caroline_> ack antoine
20:28:54 <antoine> ACTION: riccardoAlbertoni to send an email to the group about feedback on the wiki page on versioning
20:28:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-423 - Send an email to the group about feedback on the wiki page on versioning [on Riccardo Albertoni - due 2020-05-19].
20:28:57 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:29:29 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:29:32 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: we are going to meet next week it would be great to have it by then
20:29:40 <antoine> ... but we're going to discuss still afterwards
20:29:51 <antoine> ... so feedback would still be ok afterwards
20:29:53 <Caroline_> ack AndreaPerego
20:30:34 <antoine> AndreaPerego: versioning is done in different ways across communities
20:30:56 <antoine> ... one of the issues is whether versioning should be included in the core spec or in a primer
20:31:01 <antoine> q+
20:31:17 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:31:29 <Caroline_> ack antoine
20:31:54 <antoine> ... feedback from the group is really welcome
20:32:08 <antoine> antoine: is Makx involved? He has a lot of experience
20:32:35 <antoine> AndreaPerego: no, unfortunately. The sub-group calls have been attended by editors, lately.
20:32:58 <antoine> Caroline_: would discussion by mail doable?
20:33:00 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:33:10 <antoine> ... could someone address Makx specifically?
20:33:54 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: my plan is to figure the possible directions in the sub-group and then propose them to a wider audience.
20:34:18 <antoine> ... In the email to be sent we can specifically ask for vocabularies
20:34:32 <antoine> ... so that we're certain to have everything to make a design decision
20:35:04 <antoine> ... Makx is registered in the versioning issues in fact.
20:35:12 <antoine> ... so part of his view is registered there.
20:35:54 <antoine> Caroline_: when we have specific talks like this maybe we could send invitations to specific meetings.
20:36:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:36:10 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:36:16 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: yes good idea
20:36:53 <antoine> ... the wiki page is made to summarize the proposal
20:37:04 <antoine> ... at the end of the page we have 3 solutions
20:37:38 <antoine> ... if the rest of the group could help us make a step in one of the three directions it would be very useful
20:38:04 <antoine> ... But we still have to discuss the strategy for the next steps in the sub-group.
20:38:07 <Caroline_> q?
20:38:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:38:25 <antoine> Caroline_: when is the next subgroup call?
20:38:36 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: probably next week on Wednesday
20:38:44 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:38:45 <antoine> ... stil under discussion
20:39:15 <antoine> s/stil/still
20:39:16 <annette_g> q+
20:39:21 <Caroline_> ack annette_g
20:40:11 <antoine> annette_g: I pinged Makx about AI and FAIR-related ideas
20:40:19 <antoine> ... he is working with a couple of the RDA group
20:40:30 <antoine> ... FAIR data maturity model WG
20:40:57 <antoine> ... they're leaving up to the communities how to deal with FAIR aspect of the data
20:41:15 <antoine> Another WG (with riccardoAlbertoni , Simon, Andrea) is working on a conceptual model
20:41:19 <antoine> ... for research datasets
20:41:33 <antoine> ... (it's an RDA group)
20:41:48 <AndreaPerego> https://www.rd-alliance.org/groups/research-metadata-schemas-wg
20:42:10 <antoine> ... discussing Schema.org, DCAT, DISCO, etc
20:42:26 <antoine> ... Makx said we should make the connection
20:42:26 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:42:38 <AndreaPerego> q-
20:43:23 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:43:28 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:43:52 <antoine> riccardoAlbertoni: anyone can join the RDA work groups
20:44:20 <antoine> ... I've done it but I'm not heavily involved. Mostly following.
20:45:04 <antoine> ... I am interested mostly in versioning discussions
20:45:13 <Caroline_> q?
20:45:55 <antoine> close ACTION-419
20:45:56 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-419.
20:46:06 <antoine> close ACTION-420
20:46:07 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-420.
20:46:20 <antoine> Caroline_: both actions have been completed
20:46:33 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes v2
20:46:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/05/12-dxwg-minutes.html antoine
20:46:49 <Caroline_> q?
20:48:18 <antoine> Caroline_: meeting adjourned!
20:48:23 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes v2
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20:48:50 <AndreaPerego> Thanks, and bye!
20:48:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> thanks
20:49:02 <Ana_> bye, you all, thanks
20:50:29 <AndreaPerego> s/Another WG/... Another WG/
20:50:38 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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