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15:06:05 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), ivan
15:06:07 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: Meeting Agenda 2020-04-27: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-publ-wg/2020Apr/0005.html
15:06:08 <ivan> Chair: wendy
15:06:08 <ivan> Date: 2020-04-27
15:06:08 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-publ-wg/2020Apr/0005.html
15:06:08 <ivan> Meeting: Publishing Working Group Telco
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16:04:18 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: welcome
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16:04:36 <wendyreid> https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/Minutes/2020/2020-04-06-pwg
16:04:37 <dauwhe_> Topic: minutes
16:04:45 <josh> present+
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16:04:51 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: minutes approved
16:04:52 <BenSchroeter> present+
16:05:01 <dauwhe_> Topic: testing
16:05:10 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: we don't have new test results
16:05:18 <dauwhe_> .... Colobrio is working on running test cases
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16:05:25 <ivan> present+ marisa
16:05:42 <dauwhe_> ... Ken Jones' Circularflo implemented an audiobook builder for InDesign
16:05:59 <dauwhe_> ... it works! it's cool! There might be a free trial in May.
16:06:10 <dauwhe_> ... any other updates on implementations?
16:06:14 <laurent_> q+
16:06:18 <wendyreid> ack laurent_
16:06:46 <dauwhe_> laurent_: ??? reader is now audiobook compliant with w3C audiobooks and LCP
16:06:54 <wendyreid> s/???/Thorium/
16:06:54 <ivan> s/???/Thorium/
16:06:56 <dauwhe_> ... will be released on Windows 10, Mac, and Linux
16:07:11 <dauwhe_> ... I will start doing the tests!
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16:07:14 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: that's awesome news!
16:07:18 <dauwhe_> ... happy to help
16:07:21 <duga> present+
16:07:44 <dauwhe_> laurent_: I probably won't test audiobook with primary entry page with embedded manifest
16:07:53 <dauwhe_> ... those tests might not past
16:08:05 <dauwhe_> ... but a standard audiobook with manifest and tracks and toc should work
16:08:11 <dauwhe_> q?
16:08:27 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: we're still on track for Q2
16:08:37 <dauwhe_> ... any other updates or questions?
16:08:54 <dauwhe_> Topic: Charter
16:09:02 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: our charter ends at the end of June
16:09:17 <dauwhe_> ... looks like we won't be in PR by the end of June
16:09:36 <dauwhe_> ... there have been delays caused by world events
16:09:49 <dauwhe_> ... so the chairs are thinking about asking for a three-month charter extension
16:09:53 <ivan> q+
16:10:10 <dauwhe_> ... I think we could get more implemtations
16:10:12 <wendyreid> ack ivan
16:10:15 <dauwhe_> ... and gives us the summer for testing
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16:10:34 <dauwhe_> ivan: I know I am European; but life stops in the summer here
16:10:37 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
16:10:54 <dauwhe_> ... to finish in September, we need an AC vote happening in July and August
16:11:06 <dauwhe_> ... so we'd need everything lined up in July
16:11:23 <wendyreid> ack Bill_Kasdorf
16:11:23 <dauwhe_> ... is this enough time?
16:11:26 <ivan> present+ david_stroup
16:11:35 <tzviya> q+ to ask if this summer is the same
16:11:36 <dauwhe_> Bill_Kasdorf: how does this relate to restructuring of P@W3C work in general
16:11:39 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: it won
16:11:46 <dauwhe_> ... 't have a big impact
16:11:55 <dauwhe_> ... it might delay the start of an EPUB 3 WG
16:11:57 <wendyreid> ack tzviya
16:11:57 <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to ask if this summer is the same
16:12:00 <dauwhe_> Bill_Kasdorf: that is what I was anticipating
16:12:11 <dauwhe_> ivan: it's possible, but the two things are not really related
16:12:29 <dauwhe_> ... some extra load on Wendy and Ivan, since we have responsiblities in both groups
16:12:43 <dauwhe_> ... if EPUB WG went to AC tomorrow, it might happen
16:12:49 <dauwhe_> ... I don't think it's a huge factor
16:12:55 <dauwhe_> tzviya: I agree with what Ivan said
16:13:05 <dauwhe_> ... this summer might be different
16:13:09 <dauwhe_> A: wooooooo
16:13:19 <dauwhe_> tzviya: people might not take the same vacations
16:13:23 <dauwhe_> A: oooooooooo
16:13:35 <dauwhe_> tzviya: our goal is to finish as quickly as possible
16:13:47 <dauwhe_> ... we don't know what will happen in Europe in July and August
16:13:57 <dauwhe_> ... we can try to avoid an AC vote in July and August
16:14:18 <dauwhe_> ... but I don't think we should make decisions based on past European work/vacation schedules
16:14:22 <Avneesh> q+
16:14:38 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: even if everyone takes august off, the voting could happen in September
16:14:49 <wendyreid> ack Avneesh
16:15:00 <dauwhe_> Avneesh: vacation is not such a big issue
16:15:27 <dauwhe_> ... but I think we should have a one month buffer, why not ask for four months?
16:16:14 <dauwhe_> ... regarding overlap, one thing is the TPAC meeting. I don't think TPAC will be a constraint, and that we should have extended review time for the charter
16:16:38 <dauwhe_> ... on implementation side, I have constraints in May and June, but could then help with implementations at DAISY
16:16:46 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: I think in-person TPAC is unlikely
16:16:55 <ivan> q+
16:17:00 <wendyreid> ack ivan
16:17:13 <dauwhe_> ivan:  I would agree with Avneesh; let's go for four months
16:17:14 <tzviya> +1 to 4 months
16:17:19 <CharlesL> +1
16:17:27 <dauwhe_> +4
16:17:31 <Bill_Kasdorf> +1
16:17:38 <dauwhe_> ivan: we need a formal resolution
16:17:40 <wendyreid> Proposal: Request 4-month extension to charter, moving end date to October 31st
16:17:48 <josh> +1
16:17:48 <dauwhe_> +4
16:17:50 <ivan> +1
16:17:51 <Bill_Kasdorf> +1
16:17:51 <tzviya> +1
16:17:52 <Avneesh> +1
16:17:52 <laurent_> +1
16:17:53 <CharlesL> +1
16:17:55 <gpellegrino> +1
16:17:55 <duga> +1
16:17:55 <marisa> +1
16:17:56 <Teenya> +1
16:17:58 <BenSchroeter> +1
16:18:01 <david_stroup> +1
16:18:05 <dauwhe_> Aderet: too young to vote
16:18:06 <ivan> present+ duga
16:18:13 <wendyreid> RESOLVED: Request 4-month extension to charter, moving end date to October 31st
16:19:18 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: that's resolved. That's it for today's agenda
16:20:04 <dauwhe_> wendyreid: we'll probably have a meeting in a few weeks. Thanks all!
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16:20:19 <ivan> zakim, end meeting
16:20:19 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been wendyreid, gpellegrino, dauwhe_, ivan, tzviya, Teenya, Bill_Kasdorf, CharlesL, laurent_, jpyle, Avneesh, josh, BenSchroeter, marisa, duga,
16:20:22 <Zakim> ... david_stroup
16:20:22 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:20:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/04/27-pwg-minutes.html Zakim
16:20:24 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, ivan; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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