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19:56:11 <Caroline> chair: Caroline
19:56:28 <Caroline> regrets+ PWinstanley, Antoine, Annette, Alejandra
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20:02:47 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
20:03:04 <Caroline> Present+ Caroline
20:03:13 <ncar> present+
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20:05:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> I'll give a try
20:05:49 <riccardoAlbertoni> scribenick: RiccardoAlbertoni
20:05:55 <Caroline> scribe: riccardoAlbertoni
20:06:10 <Caroline> https://www.w3.org/2020/04/07-dxwg-minutes
20:06:24 <riccardoAlbertoni> proposed: Accept the meeting minutes
20:06:28 <Caroline> +1
20:06:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:06:34 <kcoyle> +0 (not here)
20:06:37 <Makx> +0
20:06:51 <roba> +0
20:06:55 <roba> present +
20:07:01 <riccardoAlbertoni> RESOLVED:  approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2020/04/07-dxwg-minutes
20:07:06 <Makx> present+
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20:07:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> topic: Web Site
20:07:31 <Ana> Present+ Ana
20:07:45 <Caroline> https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/
20:07:55 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: do we want to have a web site like the following
20:07:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> ?
20:08:20 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: Are philippe preparing a mockup?
20:08:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> bigbluehat: we have different pages ..
20:08:48 <plh> https://www.w3.org/PM/Groups/?gid=99375
20:09:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: the idea was having something like the web site for the group in order to have something more friendly
20:10:11 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh: you have an alternative example  https://www.w3.org/PM/Groups/?gid=99375
20:10:15 <kcoyle> q+
20:10:23 <Caroline> ack kcoyle
20:10:44 <riccardoAlbertoni> kcoyle: is there a problem with the web page we have now?
20:11:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh: peter was the one proposing, we can attrack more people with the new website
20:12:00 <riccardoAlbertoni> kcoyle: is yet another page to be kept update? who is doing this?
20:12:42 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh: in what is different from the info in the database that the page visualize..
20:13:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh: it is more for the outsite community
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20:13:48 <roba> +1 to automated update from point of truth. Can we excise this info from the wiki page and include this as a box there?
20:13:56 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: we keep the wiki,
20:14:22 <riccardoAlbertoni> kcoyle: I think it is a little minimal .. I would like more content..
20:15:09 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh: Rob was asking if we can feed directly the website from the wiki, the answer is no, we cannot feed more..
20:15:49 <Caroline> Present+ AndreaPerego
20:16:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh:  .... XXXX:... talking about the technicals resason why we can't  feed more ..
20:16:32 <Caroline> q?
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20:16:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: Do you have any other comments?
20:17:05 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, make logs world
20:17:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> ... considered peter is not in the call, I would suggest we postpone the vote on this..
20:18:23 <plh> https://www.w3.org/PM/Groups/chairboard.html?gid=99375
20:18:42 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: if you have suggestion we can discuss via email and vote the next meeting
20:18:55 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh: another example..
20:19:09 <Caroline> q?
20:19:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> topic: dcat
20:19:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:19:36 <Caroline> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:19:54 <Caroline> riccardoAlbertoni: We had a couple of exchanges at github issues
20:20:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2020.04.15
20:20:27 <Caroline> ... we agreed to start the DCAT subgroups calls on Wednesdays at 21:00 UTC (one hour later than the plenary call)
20:22:06 <Caroline> q?
20:22:17 <riccardoAlbertoni> do you want to comment about dcat and the meeting?
20:22:29 <riccardoAlbertoni> topic: guidance
20:22:56 <riccardoAlbertoni> caroline: the question is how we want to proceed. does anyone comment one that?
20:22:58 <Caroline> q?
20:23:02 <kcoyle> q+
20:23:09 <Caroline> ack kcoyle
20:23:33 <riccardoAlbertoni> kcoyle: did we ever made a decision about the scope of the guidance document?
20:23:36 <ncar> q+
20:23:51 <Caroline> ack ncar
20:24:17 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: i do not think a decision was made ..
20:24:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> the feeling was that it will be a general purpose document..
20:24:46 <plh> q+
20:25:01 <plh> "Guidance on publishing application profiles of vocabularies"
20:25:03 <riccardoAlbertoni> as far as I remembered about the discussion with antoine
20:25:08 <Caroline> ack plh
20:25:25 <ncar> So the charter and most recent thoughts seem to agree
20:25:43 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh:  we said in the charter  that it was quite general ..
20:26:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> unless antoine is not around I thing we shoudl not change the flavor given in the charter
20:26:25 <Caroline> q?
20:26:26 <roba> +1 fro me for it to be general
20:27:36 <ncar> +1 for a general doc, as per charter, too
20:27:41 <riccardoAlbertoni> caroline: I think we can discuss this by mail also so that all the involved parts are included.. and then we can be return to the call for voting
20:28:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> topic: conneg
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20:28:29 <ncar> q+
20:28:34 <Caroline> ack ncar
20:28:35 <riccardoAlbertoni> do anyone give a report?
20:28:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: we have two main items to do
20:29:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> .. include in the document and itemize the requirements, now we have an appendix and it list the requirements
20:29:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> .. the second was bring the testing suite in the w3c repository
20:29:57 <ncar> Testing Suite: https://github.com/w3c/prof-conneg-testing/
20:30:05 <roba> q+
20:30:17 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar:  this is the testing suite
20:30:34 <Caroline> ack roba
20:31:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> roba:  XXX (sorry I could get this )
20:32:01 <ncar> roa: the test suite is not yet using the nomenclature of the ConnegP appendix
20:32:13 <ncar> s/roa:/roba:/
20:32:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> I think we should cosider publishing a new draft for following up some of the changes
20:32:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/I think/ robe: I think
20:32:58 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: any comments?
20:33:02 <ncar> q+
20:33:55 <riccardoAlbertoni> rob: fixes the issues link,  do we need to vote if we make editorial changes ?
20:33:56 <Caroline> ack ncar
20:34:23 <riccardoAlbertoni> caroline: any comments?
20:34:58 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: i was about to mention a new implementation but let's see first if there are comment to rob..
20:35:05 <ncar> I have trialled an Apache-only implementation of ConnegP: http://linked.data.gov.au/def/geofeatures (e.g. http://linked.data.gov.au/def/geofeatures?_profile=alt, http://linked.data.gov.au/def/geofeatures?_profile=skos)
20:35:17 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: i put th elink in th eirc
20:35:35 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: we have three different implementations ..
20:36:33 <riccardoAlbertoni> .. i am try now to implement a full apache implementation, the purpouse is to show how a set a resorces can be connegP enable..
20:37:12 <Caroline> q?
20:37:22 <riccardoAlbertoni> caroline: any comments?
20:38:27 <riccardoAlbertoni> do you want to say more about it ?
20:38:44 <riccardoAlbertoni> I have a question: do you think to collect more implementations
20:39:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: not really, we have enough ..here the idea is to testing  different ways..
20:39:33 <roba> q+
20:39:54 <Caroline> ack roba
20:40:44 <ncar> q+
20:41:08 <riccardoAlbertoni>  roba: I have deployed this OGC consortium infrastructure, there are new opportunities for further feedback and reviews with other standardization bodies
20:41:15 <Caroline> ack ncar
20:42:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: I have a new role in the ISO,  19xxx, we want to put out ontology version of the 19xxx specification and there is room for using and testing our stuuff
20:43:11 <kcoyle> q+
20:43:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> roba: continuing collection, and testing..
20:43:54 <riccardoAlbertoni> ..reconving the group to have a discussion about the other issue we want to clean up ...
20:44:00 <ncar> Editor's Draft: https://w3c.github.io/dx-connegp/connegp/
20:44:03 <Caroline> ack kcoyle
20:44:23 <riccardoAlbertoni> kcoyle: do we have a target date for going to CR?
20:44:33 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: early twenty..
20:45:52 <ncar> ACTION: ncar to reconvene the ConnegP sub-group meetings
20:45:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-413 - Reconvene the connegp sub-group meetings [on Nicholas Car - due 2020-04-21].
20:46:02 <Caroline> q?
20:46:09 <riccardoAlbertoni> plh: well according the plan we are late, my suggestion is going to as quick as you can-- -
20:46:15 <ncar> q+
20:46:19 <Caroline> ack ncar
20:46:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> topic: Prof
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20:46:38 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: we haven't had any recent work on this ...
20:46:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> but we have indirectly used prof, in two places..
20:47:57 <roba> q+
20:48:01 <Caroline> ack roba
20:48:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> 1)  .... YYYYY ...  we have some feedback... there is some extension we can do for extending the semantic according to  some feedback
20:48:49 <riccardoAlbertoni> roba: it does what he need to do according to my experience of implementations..
20:49:07 <Caroline> q?
20:49:14 <riccardoAlbertoni> ... but if there is something missing I am very happy to revisiting it
20:49:18 <Caroline> ack ncar
20:50:06 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: I have reported some sw that uses prof,  I do not know what kind of expectation we have for vocabularies like this..
20:50:32 <riccardoAlbertoni> it seems we will have some commercial development too ..
20:50:32 <Caroline> q?
20:50:35 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:50:41 <Caroline> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:50:42 <ncar> The hierarchcal validation tool: https://github.com/surroundaustralia/cheka
20:51:08 <Caroline> riccardoAlbertoni: ncar mentioned a different software used to prof. Is it listed anywhere?
20:51:15 <riccardoAlbertoni> riccardoAlbertoni: Do you have a list of SW?
20:51:42 <riccardoAlbertoni> ncar: no yet, but we should consider to have the list
20:52:11 <ncar> ACTION: ncar to create an implementation report for PROF
20:52:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-414 - Create an implementation report for prof [on Nicholas Car - due 2020-04-21].
20:52:14 <riccardoAlbertoni> action to ncar : listing the sw using prof
20:52:14 <trackbot> Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
20:53:03 <kcoyle> q+
20:53:11 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: after that we have to return to prof and have a group decision ( vote, pool or whatever)
20:53:45 <Caroline> ack kcoyle
20:53:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> robe: it is just a implementation report
20:54:00 <riccardoAlbertoni> phl: so you do not need to have a group decision
20:54:59 <riccardoAlbertoni> roba: At the moment there are not changes..
20:55:17 <riccardoAlbertoni> it is just about implementations ,,
20:55:38 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: thanks and congratulations. ...
20:55:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> topic: open action
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20:56:08 <roba> i have moved actions to pending review
20:56:10 <riccardoAlbertoni> there is  one on plh ..
20:56:24 <roba> (my completed actions)
20:56:32 <riccardoAlbertoni> close 407
20:56:58 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-407
20:56:58 <trackbot> Closed action-407.
20:57:11 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-409
20:57:12 <trackbot> Closed action-409.
20:57:55 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-410
20:57:55 <trackbot> Closed action-410.
20:58:14 <roba> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/pendingreview
20:58:17 <roba> q+
20:58:21 <Caroline> ack roba
20:58:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: I think that is for actions..
20:58:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> robe: there are action on the https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/pendingreview
20:59:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-402
20:59:21 <trackbot> Closed action-402.
20:59:33 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-403
20:59:33 <trackbot> Closed action-403.
20:59:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action 405
20:59:51 <riccardoAlbertoni> close action-405
20:59:51 <trackbot> Closed action-405.
21:00:15 <riccardoAlbertoni> Caroline: Thanks a lot for your participations..
21:00:17 <Makx> OK bye bye, stay safe
21:00:21 <AndreaPerego> Thanks, and bye!
21:00:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye
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21:00:37 <Ana> thank you, bye
21:00:43 <AndreaPerego> meeting: DXWG Plenary
21:01:07 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2020.04.14
21:01:10 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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