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21:00:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
21:00:46 <trackbot> Date: 04 February 2020
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21:01:49 <Caroline> Present+ Caroline
21:02:05 <ncar> present+ ncar
21:02:22 <Ana> Presente+ Ana
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21:02:48 <ncar> present+ ana
21:03:37 <plh> present+
21:05:49 <plh> present+ alejandra
21:06:52 <ncar> chair: Caroline
21:06:54 <alejandra> present+
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21:07:22 <ncar> scribe: ncar
21:07:32 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
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21:07:41 <plh> --> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/REC-vocab-dcat-2-20200204/ DCAT2 Recommendation
21:08:01 <ncar> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2020.02.04
21:08:11 <ncar> topic: approve minuest of last meeting
21:08:16 <plh> --> https://www.w3.org/2020/01/28-dxwg-minutes January 28 notes
21:08:16 <roba> present+
21:08:23 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:08:24 <alejandra> +1
21:08:25 <Ana> +1
21:08:29 <Caroline> +1
21:08:32 <plh> +1
21:08:32 <ncar> previous minutes: https://www.w3.org/2020/01/28-dxwg-minutes
21:08:35 <ncar> +1
21:08:42 <roba> +1
21:09:07 <ncar> resolved: approve minuest of last meeting
21:09:15 <ncar> topic: Publication of DCAT2
21:09:34 <alejandra> thanks to all and to riccardoAlbertoni that made the last push!
21:09:36 <ncar> Caroline: you've done an awesome job, congratulations
21:09:43 <alejandra> and plh :-)
21:09:44 <riccardoAlbertoni> Thanks to the contributors !
21:09:48 <roba> +1
21:09:51 <plh> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/24
21:10:02 <ncar> Caroline: we can spread the word that it's out
21:10:02 <Caroline> +1
21:10:06 <Caroline> Q?
21:10:08 <ncar> Caroline: comments?
21:10:24 <plh> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/24
21:10:35 <ncar> plh: can we close the last actions assiged to me?
21:10:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> I am fine with closing
21:10:59 <Caroline> Q?
21:11:04 <alejandra> I agree too
21:11:12 <ncar> consensus is to close
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21:11:14 <riccardoAlbertoni> thanks philippe ..
21:11:20 <AndreaPerego> peter+
21:11:28 <SimonCox> present+
21:11:37 <AndreaPerego> present+
21:11:39 <alejandra> I also closed the milestone
21:11:57 <ncar> Caroline: we should have actions to send emails
21:12:10 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
21:12:14 <ncar> Caroline: is anyone writing a paper about DCAT to consolidate recommendation
21:12:26 <AndreaPerego> s/peter+//
21:12:30 <Caroline> Ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:12:31 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: I have an early DCAT paper draft
21:12:35 <ncar> q+
21:12:35 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:13:17 <ncar> q?
21:13:21 <Caroline> Q?
21:13:27 <Caroline> Ack ncar
21:14:24 <ncar> ncar: the CKAN DCAT2 plugin is almost ready!
21:14:35 <Caroline> Q?
21:14:57 <Caroline> Ack Alejandra
21:15:26 <alejandra> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit#gid=0
21:15:28 <ncar> alejandra: in the last meeting we shared the spreadsheet used to publicise DCAT. Please can people put their names against people to contact
21:17:11 <ncar> alejandra: I've created a new spreadsheet so people can re-assign themselves to contacting prople/orgs
21:17:23 <alejandra> this should be the link to the specific worksheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_f5CAZv7rgUjJH5YXkmD6w5xS6GX5X2AmEp_LMptAfQ/edit#gid=560881316
21:17:56 <ncar> Caroline: could you, alejandra, send everyone an email about filling this spreadsheet in
21:18:26 <ncar> proposed: for all to use this spreadsheet for DCAT publicity
21:18:40 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:18:41 <Caroline> +1
21:18:42 <Ana> +1
21:18:45 <roba> +1
21:18:48 <alejandra> +1
21:18:52 <ncar> +1
21:18:53 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:18:55 <SimonCox> +1
21:19:02 <ncar> resolved: for all to use this spreadsheet for DCAT publicity
21:19:24 <ncar> ACTION: alejandra to contact all WG to use the DCAT contacts spreadsheet
21:19:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-391 - Contact all wg to use the dcat contacts spreadsheet [on Alejandra Gonzalez Beltran - due 2020-02-11].
21:19:35 <Caroline> Q?
21:19:53 <ncar> topic: ConnegP
21:20:05 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:21:51 <ncar> ncar: we have almost finished API demonstrations
21:22:01 <Caroline> Q?
21:22:07 <ncar> one API: https://gsq.cat/foi/
21:22:19 <ncar> Another API: http://linked.data.gov.au/def/
21:22:35 <ncar> roba has almost completed his conformance testing framework
21:22:49 <Caroline> Q?
21:24:39 <ncar> ncar: we are in discussion with other API makers about the relevance of ConnegP to them, e.g. OGC
21:25:18 <ncar> Caroline: we need to work out subgroup meetings in 2020
21:25:29 <ncar> Caroline: we must restart soon
21:25:51 <Caroline> Q?
21:26:44 <ncar> Caroline: we need to bring back the ConnegP testing toolkit results to this plenary next week
21:26:50 <Caroline> Q?
21:27:03 <ncar> ACTION: ncar to report conformance testing to Plenary 11th Feb
21:27:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-392 - Report conformance testing to plenary 11th feb [on Nicholas Car - due 2020-02-11].
21:27:06 <ncar> q+
21:27:13 <Caroline> Ack ncar
21:27:29 <ncar> topic: Profiles Vocabulary
21:27:42 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:28:23 <roba> q+
21:29:46 <Caroline> Ack roba
21:30:08 <Caroline> Q?
21:30:14 <ncar> we - PROF editors - see broad groups of Issues that might still be addressed by PROF
21:30:29 <ncar> roba: PROF is published as a NOTE (ncar said 3PWD)
21:31:10 <ncar> PROF (as a NOTE): https://www.w3.org/TR/dx-prof/
21:32:01 <ncar> roba: ConnegP testing is somewhat reliant on PROF and vice versa
21:32:39 <Caroline> Q?
21:33:30 <ncar> ACTION: roba to report back to Plenary about PROF on 11th Feb
21:33:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-393 - Report back to plenary about prof on 11th feb [on Rob Atkinson - due 2020-02-11].
21:33:37 <alejandra> +q
21:33:41 <ncar> topic: DCAT3
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21:33:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Afuture-work
21:33:53 <Caroline> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Afuture-work
21:34:05 <Caroline> Q?
21:34:14 <ncar> Caroline: we have issues that arose from DCAT2 that are so far unaddressed. Above is the link for future work DCAT2
21:34:19 <Caroline> Ack alejandra
21:34:36 <alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/27
21:34:47 <ncar> alejandra: I was tasked to propose a first set of elements for the first DCAT3 Milestone which I have put above
21:37:18 <ncar> alejandra: we have had discussion around future directions (in DCAT2) so some of the thoughts are reflected here, e.g. versioning
21:37:40 <ncar> alejandra: we should reply to the RDA WG as suggested by KCoyle
21:37:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to include versioning and reply to RDA
21:38:02 <Caroline> Q?
21:38:10 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
21:38:18 <ncar> Caroline: the Milestone looks fine to me, comments?
21:38:27 <Caroline> Ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:38:48 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: I agree with alejandra, we should reply to the RDA proposal. I hav seen plenty of references to DCAT WG in that doc
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21:39:11 <ncar> s/hav/have/
21:40:13 <ncar> Caroline: if we agree, we should wait until next week to vote on RDA response, perhaps alejandra can explain to the WG
21:40:21 <alejandra> +q
21:40:33 <Caroline> Ack alejandra
21:40:33 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
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21:41:11 <ncar> alejandra: we should follow an agile process - so we work on the Milestone and change Issues at will, rather than voting
21:41:30 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to alejandra about agile plan
21:41:34 <roba> +1
21:41:35 <ncar> Caroline: sounds good
21:41:38 <Caroline> +1
21:41:40 <Ana> +1
21:42:01 <ncar> Caroline: please alejandra email the group about DCAT3 Milestone 1
21:42:07 <ncar> alejandra: sure
21:42:17 <Caroline> Q?
21:42:40 <ncar> ncar: ConnegP & PROF will create next round Milestone soon
21:42:54 <ncar> ACTION: alejandra to email WG about DCAT3 Milestone 1
21:42:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-394 - Email wg about dcat3 milestone 1 [on Alejandra Gonzalez Beltran - due 2020-02-11].
21:43:08 <Caroline> Q?
21:43:10 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
21:43:22 <Caroline> Ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:43:27 <ncar> topic: Splitting od DXWG repository
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21:43:57 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: we have discussed but we've not had all WG members present at one time. We should create a GitHub issue to discuss
21:44:01 <alejandra> +1 to riccardoAlbertoni
21:44:05 <antoine> +1
21:44:19 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:44:22 <Caroline> +1
21:44:23 <Ana> +1
21:44:25 <SimonCox> +1
21:44:38 <ncar> ACTION: riccardoAlbertoni to create a GitHub issue for repo splitting
21:44:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-395 - Create a github issue for repo splitting [on Riccardo Albertoni - due 2020-02-11].
21:44:49 <SimonCox> I just updated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary to mention DCAT v2
21:45:00 <Caroline> Q?
21:45:34 <ncar> topic: Use Cases
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21:45:47 <roba> q+
21:45:53 <ncar> Caroline: do we need more for the topics we are planning to work on?
21:46:11 <Caroline> Q?
21:46:14 <ncar> Caroline: I suggest people look at the DCAT3 Milestone 1
21:46:15 <Caroline> Ack roba
21:47:17 <ncar> roba: where Use Cases needed clarification, the UC document was updated. If we split repos, we can easily extend the UC doc
21:47:31 <Caroline> Q?
21:47:33 <antoine> q+
21:47:41 <Caroline> Ack antoine
21:47:58 <ncar> antoine: why would splitting of repos make this easier?
21:48:15 <ncar> roba: the UC doc is one place everyone needs to pay attention to ensure all deliverable consistency
21:49:01 <ncar> roba: it may make it easier to see what's going on comparted to the corrent unwhield single, large, repo
21:49:16 <antoine> q+
21:49:26 <SimonCox> +1 to splitting repositories
21:49:26 <Caroline> +q
21:49:39 <Caroline> Ack antoine
21:49:54 <ncar> antoine: I think I see your point. We should make a repo for UC
21:50:11 <ncar> roba: yes, a repo for UC, DCAT, PROF & ConnegP and perhaps Guidance, if restarted
21:50:12 <ncar> +1
21:50:14 <SimonCox> +1 to roba suggestion
21:50:38 <antoine> +1 for splitting UC but maybe not the rest :-)
21:50:54 <SimonCox> Probably needs some reflection and buy-in from the larger group
21:51:08 <AndreaPerego> I think we should wait until we decide an overall strategy for new versions of the spec.
21:51:12 <ncar> Caroline: we will need to vote on repo split after GitHub issue voting
21:51:13 <Caroline> Q?
21:51:21 <AndreaPerego> q+
21:51:35 <ncar> s/GitHub issue voting/GitHub issue discussion/
21:51:39 <ncar> q?
21:51:50 <Caroline> Ack Caroline
21:51:54 <Caroline> Ack Andrea
21:52:36 <ncar> AndreaPerego: we should split repo after discussion about WG direction
21:53:23 <riccardoAlbertoni> I have made a release on git for dcat rec
21:53:25 <alejandra> +q
21:53:27 <ncar> AndreaPerego: another issue I want to raise - editing process of DCAT3 - DCAT2 folder should probably not have any more PRs since it is forzen
21:54:11 <ncar> AndreaPerego: we should freeze the DCAT2 ED until splitting, or not, is decided
21:54:53 <ncar> plh: we don't need to freeze the ED since we will clone the repo. Whatever change we do now will be carried.
21:55:11 <ncar> AndreaPerego: but we now have a link from the Rec to the ED
21:55:22 <ncar> plh: no, it's fine to modify an ED
21:55:30 <ncar> plh: EDs are work in progress
21:55:49 <SimonCox> +1 to plh - move right on!
21:56:02 <Caroline> Ack alejandra
21:56:05 <ncar> AndreaPerego: so we cna change the current DCAT ED ready for DCAT3
21:56:09 <ncar> plh: yup!
21:56:12 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q to say that we have a release for DCAT  https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/releases
21:56:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> -q
21:56:47 <ncar> alejandra: the problem is still that there is a link to the latest ED in the Rec
21:56:58 <ncar> plh: we will solve ED locations with redirects
21:57:29 <ncar> plh: RDF files of the Rec are published via W3C website, not GitHub feezing them
21:57:34 <Caroline> Q?
21:57:54 <ncar> Caroline: no further comments so we finish the meeting
21:58:12 <ncar> Caroline: WG members should be proud of DCAT2! Congratulations
21:58:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> Thank all, bye, good night!
21:58:18 <AndreaPerego> Thanks, bye!
21:58:20 <alejandra> thanks all, and bye!
21:58:22 <ncar> by all
21:58:23 <Ana> thanks, bye
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22:00:02 <AndreaPerego> regrets+ PWinstanley, DaveBrowning, Lars, Annette
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