IRC log of dpvcg on 2019-12-10
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- Meeting: Data Privacy Vocabularies and Controls Community Group Teleconference
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- Date: 10 December 2019
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- agenda: https://www.w3.org/mid/4701713.RFOKHTRZur@nyx
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- clear agenda
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- agenda+ Roll call, select scribe, agenda
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- agenda+ Approve last telcon minutes:
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- agenda+ Action items
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- agenda+ The future of the DPVCG
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- agenda+ DPVCG taking over the SPECIAL vocabularies?
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- agenda+ Issues
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- agenda+ AOB
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- chair: Bert
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- scribe: harsh
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- Bert: regarding minutes of meetings from last call, any issues? (No objections raised)
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- Bert: approved minutes
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- action-130?
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- action-130 -- Bud P. Bruegger to Discuss with eva to start a use case document? -- due 2019-09-10 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/130
- 15:07:23 [harsh]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dpvcg/2019Nov/0026.html
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- Bud: attachment sent to public mailing list
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- Bert: this action has been recorded as done/finished
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- action-131?
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- action-131 -- Harshvardhan Pandit to Contact jan lindquis and inform them about the process how to suggest terms, i.e. ask them for a coherent proposal to extend our voacbulary to include their terms and let us know which ones are missing or where are the overlaps. -- due 2019-09-24 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/131
- 15:08:17 [Bert]
- action-132?
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- action-132 -- Bud P. Bruegger to Bud and Eva will try to come up with partial state-transition diagrams to illustrate the interdependencies of data subject rights by the end of november. -- due 2019-11-30 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/132
- 15:08:19 [harsh]
- Bert: Action-131 for Harsh
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- harsh: That is still ongoing
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- Bud: Action-132 - still working on it
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- action-137?
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- action-137 -- Bert Bos to Apply harsh's patch to the html and rdf and republish, due 2019-11-28 -- due 2019-12-03 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/137
- 15:09:07 [harsh]
- Bert: Action-137 - has been done, the patch has been applied and the vocab has been updated
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- close action-130
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- Closed action-130.
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- close action-137
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- Closed action-137.
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- action-138?
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- action-138 -- Bert Bos to Add a link to the spreadsheet to the wiki, for safekeeping. -- due 2019-12-03 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/138
- 15:10:46 [harsh]
- Bert: Action-138 have added it to the wiki
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- close action-138
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- Closed action-138.
- 15:11:30 [harsh]
- Bud: I have closed Action-130 (on the tracker)
- 15:12:18 [harsh]
- Bert: Next topic, about the future of the group. Axel and myself (Bert) will be occupied with other projects, so will have less time to chair this group. So we need to think about resources and actions regarding the group and the chair. Proposal from Axel and myself if for Harsh to take over.
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- Bert: There is no formal process for selecting a chair. If anyone objects, they can make it known.
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- Bert: Any objections to having Harsh as the chair? (No objections noted)
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- Bert: Will update the website accordingly.
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- Harsh: We can start the next set of actoins/work next year from Jan.
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- Bert: Should we start on a charter / plan or leave it for January?
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- harsh: We can start one on the mailing list and formalise it in Jan on the website or Wiki
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- Bert: Any ideas for resources?
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- Mark: Perhaps an advertising or announcement for inviting contributions / members
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- Mark: There are other W3C groups which we can liase / collaborate with
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- Bert: Next item, as SPECIAL project is ending, the vocabularies could be moved to the DPVCG, and continued to be worked
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- harsh: It makes sense since we used the SPECIAL base vocabulary for DPV
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- -> https://www.specialprivacy.eu/vocabs SPECIAL vocabs
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- issue-20?
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- issue-20 -- How to express sensity of data? -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/20
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- Bert: Discussing ISSUE-20 regarding sensitivity of data
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- Bud: an example that comes to mind is about location whether it is a single point or a time-series dataset. So it is context dependant on whether location is sensitive.
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- harsh: So I think we can turn this in to an Open Issue and have more discussions later
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- issue-19?
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- issue-19 -- Do we need a generic mechanism to describe conditions, constraints and restrcitions to a specific processing or data category or can we re-use odrl's mechanism? -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/19
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- issue-21?
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- issue-21 -- Ask for specific feedback on (un)ambiguity of the term descriptions -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/21
- 15:29:31 [harsh]
- Bert: ISSUE-19 on use of ODRL for constraints
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- harsh: Last discussion on this was with Simon and Axel on using ODRL or SHACL
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- issue-22?
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- issue-22 -- We ask for particular feedback on whether and how to extend the list/taxonomy of controllers and recipients in the current vocabulary. -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/22
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- issue-23?
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- issue-23 -- Should we add more subclasses to communicationrecording (e.g. distinguishing chats, personalmessaging, videocommunication, telephony, etc.) and which ones? -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/23
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- issue-24?
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- issue-24 -- Should we add more specific subclasses like countryofcitizenship, countryofresidence, countryofcurrentlocation to country and which ones? -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/24
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- issue-25?
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- issue-25 -- Should we explicitly note that the the controller is always a recipient of the data, if not, do we need to make this explicit inth vocabulary, by declaring it? -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/25
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- issue-26?
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- issue-26 -- Describe use-cases and examples showing how the vocabulary should be or can be used -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/26
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- issue-27?
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- issue-27 -- Discuss accompanying primer document -- raised
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/27
- 15:57:45 [harsh]
- For Primer authors, Invite on mailing list?
- 15:59:36 [harsh]
- Next meeting on 7th Jan 2020
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- RRSAgent, make minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/12/10-dpvcg-minutes.html Bert
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- present+ James, Harsh, Bert, Mark, Bud
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- RRSAgent, make minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/12/10-dpvcg-minutes.html Bert
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- i/meetings from last call/topic: Approve last telcon minutes
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- i/action-130?/topic: Action items
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- i/Next topic, about the future of the group/Topic: The future of the DPVCG
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- s/Proposal from Axel and myself if/Proposal from Axel and myself is
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- i/Next item, as SPECIAL project is ending/Topic: DPVCG taking over the SPECIAL vocabularies?
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- i/issue-20?/Topic: Issues
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- i/Next meeting on 7th Jan 2020/Topic: AOB
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- RRSAgent, make minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/12/10-dpvcg-minutes.html Bert
- 17:05:15 [Bert]
- regrets: Axel, Rigo
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- RRSAgent, make minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/12/10-dpvcg-minutes.html Bert
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- Zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been James, Harsh, Bert, Mark, Bud
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see no action items