<LisaSeemanKest> clear agenda
<LisaSeemanKest> scribe: roy
Lisa: update for our time table,
base on WCAG 2.2 timeline
... to see if it is make sense, PR on April 2020
... wide review in December
... other important feedback from TPAC, mozlia will implement
symbol in firefox
JF: do we have URL or example
Janina: the guy come from Firefox have seen the demo during TPAC
<LisaSeemanKest> ACTION: charles to get link on firefox
<trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Get link on firefox [on Charles LaPierre - due 2019-11-04].
https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/128
JF: as we want to go into wide review, social web marketing is critical
Lisa: I could show you
... we need figure out simplification as we need going to
CR
<LisaSeemanKest> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#values-2
Lisa: I wrote an email
<JF> a <form> is an element as well
<JF> What about landmark elements?
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2019Oct/0023.html
<JF> <div data-simplification="critical">?
<LisaSeemanKest> elements that are critical for ination or complaing the main pourpse of the page
Becky: could we add some like, the critical for process or make purpose
JF: it could be the information
after the heading, not just heading
... headline also has support line
<LisaSeemanKest> heading 1 and required form elements are typically critical
Lisa: it critical to interactive
with content.
... if we imply something
<JF> Q
JF: use the work element, heading means a container with content, control means button or something
<JF> agreed. but then the attribute is applied to *the content* inside of the <p> element
Lisa: heading will include some
critical information, like the specific time, 11:00pm may means
not a same time for school students
... for people can't read much, could have critical information
easily
... critical information filter could make people work
efficiency
<LisaSeemanKest> note that heading have relitve importance invered
JF: try to find some good use case this week
<LisaSeemanKest> element - element and controls
<LisaSeemanKest> content and col=ntrols
Lisa: a wiki page for
simplification for content and controls, element and
controls
... a heading content critical information should consider
critical
<LisaSeemanKest> aheading that contins critical information should be considered critical
JF: h2 looks more critical recent, concern we try to overwhelm on them, we may push back some
<JF> +1 except "user agent" and not "assistive technology"
Lisa: change element, make a wiki
Becky: we could add another example
<JF> <div data-simplification="critical"> <h2>Safety Considerations</h2> <ul> <li>This</li> <li>That</li> <li>The Other</li> </ul> </div>
Becky: example for school
... also example for email
<LisaSeemanKest> add conde example of school newsleter into the specification
JF: for example, the container looks more important
Lisa: try to get it done, next
week
... simplification is important to decide for going to WCAG,
others if we can't reach out by the timeline, we could publish
it into module 2
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2019Oct/0022.html
<LisaSeemanKest> topic, distraction and beckies question
Becky: For example, a free blog
on wordpress.com has ads inserted and the blog owner has no
control. Are these exempt because I, as the blog owner, have no
control of them? Do we expect the owner of the advertisement to
add the data-distraction attribute? I’m guessing most will not
want to. Need clarification on who is responsible.
...
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2019Oct/0022.html
<janina> Also +1 to Becky re 3rd party considerations
Charles: agree with Becky
<LisaSeemanKest> ACTION: charles to see were duplicates are done and were names can be less error prone
<trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - See were duplicates are done and were names can be less error prone [on Charles LaPierre - due 2019-11-04].
Charles: I would like to take action to to see were duplicates, will finish by late of next week.
JF: if you not the purchase, you are the buyers, that will be a business case
Lisa: if I want to buy something,
but distraction by chat or something else, it could be better
to allow people who don't need this could close.
... it could be good for government sites
... for example health care website
... formulate type and format for ad or chat, may important
Charles: it may a WCAG issue, agree with Lisa, it could better if there is a mechanism to close or other way to pull it away
JF: over concentrate on ad, would like to remove the ad
Lisa: comfort to remove
Becky: we could put it in editor draft
Janina: we could start to consider it
Lisa: we make it comes from the 3rd part
<LisaSeemanKest> advertizment change the word to offer
Lisa: we could change the name
Becky: that's a hide issue, ok with that
<LisaSeemanKest> add editors nore that adversinfg that is ential to the buisn ess model expected to be marked up to be
<CharlesL> trackbot, end meeting
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