<LisaSeemanKest> clear agenda

<LisaSeemanKest> scribe: roy

updates and time tables https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki#timelines

Lisa: update for our time table, base on WCAG 2.2 timeline
... to see if it is make sense, PR on April 2020
... wide review in December
... other important feedback from TPAC, mozlia will implement symbol in firefox

JF: do we have URL or example

Janina: the guy come from Firefox have seen the demo during TPAC

<LisaSeemanKest> ACTION: charles to get link on firefox

<trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Get link on firefox [on Charles LaPierre - due 2019-11-04].

https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/128

JF: as we want to go into wide review, social web marketing is critical

Lisa: I could show you
... we need figure out simplification as we need going to CR

<LisaSeemanKest> https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#values-2

Lisa: I wrote an email

<JF> a <form> is an element as well

<JF> What about landmark elements?

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2019Oct/0023.html

<JF> <div data-simplification="critical">?

<LisaSeemanKest> elements that are critical for ination or complaing the main pourpse of the page

Becky: could we add some like, the critical for process or make purpose

JF: it could be the information after the heading, not just heading
... headline also has support line

<LisaSeemanKest> heading 1 and required form elements are typically critical

Lisa: it critical to interactive with content.
... if we imply something

<JF> Q

JF: use the work element, heading means a container with content, control means button or something

<JF> agreed. but then the attribute is applied to *the content* inside of the <p> element

Lisa: heading will include some critical information, like the specific time, 11:00pm may means not a same time for school students
... for people can't read much, could have critical information easily
... critical information filter could make people work efficiency

<LisaSeemanKest> note that heading have relitve importance invered

JF: try to find some good use case this week

<LisaSeemanKest> element - element and controls

<LisaSeemanKest> content and col=ntrols

Lisa: a wiki page for simplification for content and controls, element and controls
... a heading content critical information should consider critical

<LisaSeemanKest> aheading that contins critical information should be considered critical

JF: h2 looks more critical recent, concern we try to overwhelm on them, we may push back some

<JF> +1 except "user agent" and not "assistive technology"

Lisa: change element, make a wiki

Becky: we could add another example

<JF> <div data-simplification="critical"> <h2>Safety Considerations</h2> <ul> <li>This</li> <li>That</li> <li>The Other</li> </ul> </div>

Becky: example for school
... also example for email

<LisaSeemanKest> add conde example of school newsleter into the specification

JF: for example, the container looks more important

Lisa: try to get it done, next week
... simplification is important to decide for going to WCAG, others if we can't reach out by the timeline, we could publish it into module 2

https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/personalization/track/actions/13: find more value duplicates from

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2019Oct/0022.html

<LisaSeemanKest> topic, distraction and beckies question

Becky: For example, a free blog on wordpress.com has ads inserted and the blog owner has no control. Are these exempt because I, as the blog owner, have no control of them? Do we expect the owner of the advertisement to add the data-distraction attribute? I’m guessing most will not want to. Need clarification on who is responsible.
... https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2019Oct/0022.html

<janina> Also +1 to Becky re 3rd party considerations

Charles: agree with Becky

<LisaSeemanKest> ACTION: charles to see were duplicates are done and were names can be less error prone

<trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - See were duplicates are done and were names can be less error prone [on Charles LaPierre - due 2019-11-04].

Charles: I would like to take action to to see were duplicates, will finish by late of next week.

JF: if you not the purchase, you are the buyers, that will be a business case

Lisa: if I want to buy something, but distraction by chat or something else, it could be better to allow people who don't need this could close.
... it could be good for government sites
... for example health care website
... formulate type and format for ad or chat, may important

Charles: it may a WCAG issue, agree with Lisa, it could better if there is a mechanism to close or other way to pull it away

JF: over concentrate on ad, would like to remove the ad

Lisa: comfort to remove

Becky: we could put it in editor draft

Janina: we could start to consider it

Lisa: we make it comes from the 3rd part

<LisaSeemanKest> advertizment change the word to offer

Lisa: we could change the name

Becky: that's a hide issue, ok with that

<LisaSeemanKest> add editors nore that adversinfg that is ential to the buisn ess model expected to be marked up to be

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