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14:59:41 <ivan> Meeting: Publishing Chairs’ Telco
14:59:41 <ivan> Chair:  Luc
15:00:02 <ivan> Date: 2019-10-04
15:00:02 <ivan> present+
15:02:02 <ivan> present+ daihei, luc
15:02:08 <ivan> present+ liisa
15:02:16 <ivan> present+ mattg
15:02:34 <dauwhe> present+
15:04:02 <dauwhe> regrets+ Rachel
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15:06:13 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose liisamk
15:06:25 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ivan
15:06:38 <dauwhe> regrets+ wendyreid
15:06:42 <ivan> scribe+
15:06:51 <ivan> luc: epubcheck dev is going on
15:07:13 <ivan> ... they are finalizing the test suite, 1000+ tests, not yet very well organized
15:07:29 <ivan> ... the idea is that anybody can take the development up
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15:08:02 <ivan> ... cleanup going on so that anybody can pick it up later
15:08:02 <ivan> ... we are fully in Daisy's Phase 2
15:08:10 <ivan> ... in parallel we have to re-launch fundraising
15:08:28 <ivan> ... with the help of George I made an update of the epubcheck fundraising page
15:08:31 <mattg> present+
15:08:52 <ivan> ... saying that phase 1 is done, and now we do further work, open source development, etc
15:09:02 <ivan> ... the page is not enough, we have to communicate
15:09:07 <Daihei> +q
15:09:11 <ivan> ... to all our members and beyond
15:09:23 <ivan> ... the publ community, users, distributers
15:09:36 <ivan> ... 50K are still missing
15:10:02 <ivan> ... if we do not have that, we have to stop the project
15:10:02 <ivan> ... the page contains the list of companies that already donated
15:10:07 <ivan> ... there are some countries that did not give much
15:10:15 <ivan> ... some did a lot like Japan
15:10:30 <ivan> ... Europe is lagging, I will use my network to disseminate the information
15:10:38 <ivan> ... to get the final dollars in the bank
15:11:04 <ivan> Daihei: how much do we need, but I see it is 50K$ by next year
15:11:22 <ivan> luc: there is a milestone to pay Daisy beginning next year
15:11:42 <ivan> ... if we do not have this money by the end of the year we will be in a difficulty
15:11:52 <liisamk> ack Daihei
15:12:02 <ivan> Daihei: luc and I made it clear at the PBG meeting in Fukuoka
15:12:20 <ivan> ... I will further sollicit the industry organizations to fund to some degree
15:12:35 <ivan> ... APL will invest some more than 10K
15:12:43 <ivan> ... there are couple of others I am approaching
15:12:53 <ivan> Luc: thanks, great news
15:12:58 <ivan> q?
15:13:21 <jeff> q+
15:13:42 <ivan> Luc: no other agenda, except the mail of Billk that the IDPF web site is down
15:14:02 <ivan> ... but this week I checked it was working well
15:14:07 <ivan> ... I do not know what is happening and whether we want to discuss it here?
15:14:29 <liisamk> ack RalphS
15:14:32 <ivan> RalphS: I am aware of this and I am on it (the web site issue)
15:14:37 <jeff> Ralph++
15:15:01 <ivan> ... charles sent me a mail 2 hours ago and something is happening
15:15:04 <liisamk> ack jeff
15:15:31 <ivan> Jeff: there was a discussion on the BG call and a followup email discussion on epub3 as rec issue
15:16:02 <ivan> ... Dave said that there will be a roadmap discusison on the CG
15:16:07 <dauwhe> q+
15:16:08 <ivan> ... I did express that the roadmap discussion should be included into the Rec related issue
15:16:26 <RalphS> s/charles sent me a mail 2 hours ago and something is happening/I was alerted that this might need attention, was planning to let you all know in this meeting, and also charles sent me a mail 2 hours ago
15:16:31 <ivan> ... I am not sure the SC needs to be part of this discussion
15:16:45 <liisamk> ack dauwhe
15:16:51 <ivan> dauwhe: the cg going to be discussing the roadmap on Thursday
15:17:05 <liisamk> q+
15:17:07 <ivan> ... i would hope to have the discussion there first before it comes to any group
15:17:28 <ivan> jeff: anybody on the team will be there
15:18:02 <ivan> RalphS: looking at the calendar
15:18:02 <ivan> jeff: could you send the agenda call to the sc?
15:18:11 <RalphS> s/the cal/my cal
15:18:23 <ivan> Luc: this is very good thing that the cg is discussing this
15:18:34 <ivan> ... this time it is during the book fair in Frankfurt
15:19:08 <ivan> ... the call is on october 10
15:19:23 <ivan> ... but it is not yet frankfurt after all, I will be there
15:20:01 <ivan> liisamk: do you think it is helpful to put a bit conversation to the bg on what books you want to make into an epub and you cannot?
15:20:06 <ivan> dauwhe: this is very useful information
15:20:18 <liisamk> ack liisamk
15:20:56 <dauwhe> q+
15:21:04 <jeff> q+
15:21:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/10/04-pbgsc-minutes.html RalphS
15:21:14 <liisamk> ack dauwhe
15:21:24 <ivan> dauwhe: I would prefer not discuss the epub rec issue before the cg has a discussion on what it is proposing
15:21:32 <ivan> ... to make it bottom up rather than top down
15:22:02 <ivan> ... this is a process and not something to be discussed once on Thursday
15:22:02 <ivan> ... these are complicating issues that will be discussed over a longer time
15:22:07 <liisamk> ack jeff
15:22:18 <ivan> jeff: I agree with Dave's opinion
15:22:58 <ivan> luc: discussing with amazon a11y
15:23:04 <ivan> ... we could not do it in fukuoka
15:23:24 <ivan> ... we will have a call with a number people (Peter Korn, ???)
15:24:02 <ivan> ... the call is planned next week with federation of european pubnlishers, george, avnees are also involved
15:24:02 <ivan> s/pubnlishers/publishers/
15:24:21 <ivan> s/ees/eesh/
15:25:02 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:25:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/10/04-pbgsc-minutes.html ivan
15:25:02 <ivan> zakim, bye
15:25:02 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
15:25:02 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
15:25:02 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been ivan, daihei, luc, liisa, mattg, dauwhe, Garth, liisamk, RalphS, jeff
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