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19:30:08 <kcoyle> meeting: DXWG Plenary Sept 10 2019
19:30:30 <kcoyle> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.09.10
19:30:37 <kcoyle> chair: Karen Coyle
19:31:04 <kcoyle> regrets+ Simon Cox, Nick Car, Peter Winstanley, Alejandra, Antoine
19:31:09 <kcoyle> present+ kcoyle
19:31:39 <kcoyle> rrsagent, make logs public
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20:02:52 <kcoyle> minutes happening here: https://www.w3.org/2019/09/10-dxwg-minutes.html
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20:08:57 <kcoyle> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.09.10
20:09:46 <kcoyle> previous meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/09/03-dxwg-minutes
20:10:20 <dsr> scibenick: dsr
20:10:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:10:21 <AndreaPerego> +1 to approve them
20:10:22 <TomB_> +1
20:10:28 <kcoyle> +1
20:10:37 <roba> +0
20:10:44 <annette_g> +0 (wasn't there)
20:10:56 <DaveBrowning> 0 (wasn't there)
20:11:04 <AndreaPerego> resolved: previous meeting minutes approved https://www.w3.org/2019/09/03-dxwg-minutes
20:11:27 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:11:49 <AndreaPerego> topic: DCAT CR
20:11:56 <dsr> Karen asks DaveBrowning for an update on where we are on DCAT
20:12:12 <dsr> DaveBrowning: we should be starting the WG review now
20:12:33 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Adcat+milestone%3A%22DCAT+CR%22
20:13:02 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Adcat+label%3Acritical+milestone%3A%22DCAT+CR%22
20:13:04 <dsr> The link shows the 12 open issues.
20:13:19 <dsr> We triaged issues following advice from PLH
20:14:04 <dsr> Karen asks about issues marked critical
20:14:42 <dsr> DaveBrowning: we need to address at least 2 of them during the WG review
20:15:33 <dsr> Karen: if PLH is able to join us we should think what process questions we have for him
20:16:59 <dsr> DaveBrowning: some questions around editorial matters, but nothing serious
20:17:30 <dsr> On 1055, an active conversation there, and pressure to get that it
20:17:59 <dsr> Karen: from the time that you give it to the WG, then the editor’s shouldn’t make substantive changes after that
20:19:05 <dsr> If there are issues that are really substantial then we have a problem …
20:19:43 <riccardoAlbertoni> I agree, I wouldn't open that discussion again, we have some consensus we should preserve :)
20:19:52 <dsr> We need to shut the door on this version of DCAT if we’re to move it to REC
20:20:13 <dsr> Karen: is the DCAT task force meeting tomorrow?
20:20:22 <dsr> DaveBrowning: I am not sure that we need to
20:21:26 <dsr> DaveBrowning: I may send out a pointer to a branch rather than pointing to the editor’s draft
20:21:49 <dsr> rrsagent, set logs public
20:22:05 <dsr> chair: Karen
20:22:16 <dsr> scribe DaveRaggett
20:22:47 <AndreaPerego> s/scribe DaveRaggett/scribe: DaveRaggett/
20:23:10 <kcoyle> resolved: DCAT editor's draft as of this moment is the draft the WG will review and vote on
20:23:31 <kcoyle> ACTION: on kcoyle, everyone to review DCAT
20:23:32 <trackbot> Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
20:23:48 <kcoyle> ACTION: kcoyle, everyone to review DCAT
20:23:48 <trackbot> Error finding 'kcoyle,'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
20:24:17 <kcoyle> ACTION: kcoyle to send email to public list with link
20:24:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-367 - Send email to public list with link [on Karen Coyle - due 2019-09-17].
20:24:39 <kcoyle> ACTION: DaveBrowning send email to public list with any additional instruction or helpful information
20:24:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-368 - Send email to public list with any additional instruction or helpful information [on David Browning - due 2019-09-17].
20:25:20 <AndreaPerego> ACTION: kcoyle to ask everyone to review DCAT
20:25:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-369 - Ask everyone to review dcat [on Karen Coyle - due 2019-09-17].
20:26:10 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:26:29 <dsr> Karen: have you tracked the external feedback you have had so far ?
20:26:33 <dsr> DaveBrowning: yes
20:26:42 <AndreaPerego> scribenick: dsr
20:26:44 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:27:01 <kcoyle> ACTION: kcoyle to ask philippe what proof is needed for wide review
20:27:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-370 - Ask philippe what proof is needed for wide review [on Karen Coyle - due 2019-09-17].
20:27:18 <kcoyle> q?
20:27:59 <dsr> Karen: DCAT is pretty much wrapped up, that’s really good!
20:28:20 <dsr> DaveBrowning: CONNEG isn’t quite so far along with 90 open issues
20:28:23 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:28:35 <AndreaPerego> topic: CONNEG
20:28:59 <dsr> roba: I can speak to this as Nick isn’t available today
20:29:22 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:30:07 <dsr> Karen: I see the Ruben made a pull request on tokens
20:30:49 <dsr> roba: yes, and we ended up agreeing on a mechanism that doesn’t interfere with the IETF draft by using a different header
20:31:13 <dsr> roba: I need to agree to the pull request, but don’t forsee a problem
20:31:43 <dsr> Karen: we need a final version by next Tuesday to go to the WG for wide review
20:32:08 <dsr> I will ask PLH for just what is meant by wide review
20:32:29 <dsr> Getting CONNEG to CR is going to be tough
20:32:50 <dsr> … given the time limitations for the charter
20:33:42 <dsr> roba: there’s been quite a lot of clean up in response to external feedback
20:34:20 <dsr> … but it hasb’
20:34:30 <dsr> hasn’t changed substantively
20:35:37 <dsr> roba:  I think we’ve dealt with all the critical issues in the last few months
20:35:59 <dsr> As an implementor I am reasonably happy with the spec
20:36:50 <dsr> Karen: I don’t recall a wide public review recently
20:37:03 <dsr> roba: that depends on what you mean by that
20:37:39 <dsr> Karen: we need to show that the wider W3C community has looked at it
20:38:27 <dsr> If PLH doesn’t make it to this call, I will contact him separately
20:38:55 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:39:06 <AndreaPerego> topic: PROF
20:39:09 <dsr> Karen: please let the CONNEG team know that the DXWG main group needs a version to review to sign off on.
20:39:21 <kcoyle> q?
20:39:49 <dsr> Karen asks roba  for an status report on PROF
20:40:12 <dsr> roba: the main issue is the naming of roles and whether these should be left to the future
20:40:57 <dsr> No substantive changes to the vocabulary itself
20:42:01 <dsr> Karen: I see 76 open issues, a few of which are marked as editorial
20:42:19 <dsr> roba: only one critical issue …
20:43:40 <dsr> many of the issues are rambling discussions
20:44:39 <dsr> Karen recommends getting back to the people who make comments to see that their issues have been addressed properly
20:44:56 <dsr> roba: we indeed have been doing so
20:46:29 <dsr> Karen: you have one week to produce the version for the group as a whole to review
20:47:27 <dsr> we need evidence on the contact with the external reviewers to show how their feedback was handled
20:47:51 <dsr> Minor editorial changes can be made later, even after it has gone to CR
20:48:29 <dsr> Karen refers to the AC review following exiting from CR
20:48:37 <DaveBrowning> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:49:25 <roba> q+
20:49:33 <dsr> ack roba
20:49:34 <kcoyle> ack roba
20:49:55 <TomB_> no comment!
20:50:07 <dsr> roba: profile guidance is by its nature guidance and hence should be a WG Note
20:50:07 <annette_g> +1
20:50:34 <dsr> Karen: the full group still needs to sign off on WG Notes
20:51:10 <dsr> Karen: any other business? [no]
20:51:32 <dsr> we will chat again next week
20:51:43 <annette_g> thanks all!
20:51:44 <riccardoAlbertoni> Thanks, bye
20:51:47 <dsr> please look out for emails on review deadlines.
20:51:47 <roba> bye
20:51:52 <dsr> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:51:52 <TomB_> thanks all
20:57:42 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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