12:09:35 RRSAgent has joined #dxwgcneg 12:09:35 logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/08/01-dxwgcneg-irc 12:09:37 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:09:37 Zakim has joined #dxwgcneg 12:09:39 Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference 12:09:39 Date: 01 August 2019 12:09:53 Meeting: DXWG CNEG subgroup telecon 12:09:58 present+ 12:10:30 present+ 12:10:32 RRSAgent, please make logs public 12:10:38 scribenick: roba 12:10:44 RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2 12:10:44 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/08/01-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG 12:11:17 present+ 12:11:22 Topic: Admin 12:11:35 Subtopic: Confirm agenda 12:12:43 +1 with addition that we look at Nick's QSA before the status check of 3pwd 12:12:50 +1 12:13:03 RESOLVED: Agenda confirmed 12:13:19 Subtopic: Approve minutes from last meeting 12:13:26 https://www.w3.org/2019/07/25-dxwgcneg-minutes 12:13:32 +1 12:13:46 +1 12:14:08 +1 12:14:14 RESOLVED: Minutes from last meeting approved 12:14:32 Subtopic: Check list of open action items 12:14:43 action-193? 12:14:43 action-193 -- Rob Atkinson to Move jmeter test suite to within w3c systems -- due 2018-09-05 -- OPEN 12:14:43 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/193 12:14:56 roba: #193 still open 12:15:20 action-343? 12:15:20 action-343 -- Nicholas Car to Update qsa documentation with an equivalent to getcapabilities -- due 2019-07-11 -- OPEN 12:15:20 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/343 12:15:51 ncar: PR is in - so we can close 12:15:58 close action-343 12:15:58 Closed action-343. 12:16:08 action-347? 12:16:08 action-347 -- Rob Atkinson to Create new gh issue explaining the problem of redirects and refer to that issue in the wd -- due 2019-07-18 -- OPEN 12:16:08 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/347 12:16:41 roba: not actioned yet, still open 12:16:47 action-348? 12:16:47 action-348 -- Nicholas Car to Create pr with real examples to solve #287 -- due 2019-07-18 -- OPEN 12:16:47 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/348 12:17:06 ncar: PR accepted so can close 12:17:18 close action-348 12:17:18 Closed action-348. 12:17:23 Topic: Topics 12:17:34 Subtopic: URIs for profiles specified inside of documents where the profile have no specific URIs 12:18:48 roba: if we cannot specify a URI we cannot supply that functionality. So we're ready to answer TomB 12:18:52 +1 12:18:57 +1 12:20:35 +1 12:20:49 Action: LarsG to respond to Tom Baker re URIs for profiles inside of documents 12:20:50 Created ACTION-355 - Respond to tom baker re uris for profiles inside of documents [on Lars G. Svensson - due 2019-08-08]. 12:21:21 Subtopic: Discussion of Antoine's conneg doc edits 12:21:29 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/575#issuecomment-515982929 12:24:18 ACTION: ncar to implement Antoine's suggestions as laid out in https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/575#issuecomment-515982929 12:24:19 Created ACTION-356 - Implement antoine's suggestions as laid out in https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/575#issuecomment-515982929 [on Nicholas Car - due 2019-08-08]. 12:24:47 6.1 - should be called overview? 12:24:50 ACTION: roba to add examples using 303 redirects 12:24:51 Created ACTION-357 - Add examples using 303 redirects [on Rob Atkinson - due 2019-08-08]. 12:25:36 Subtopic: Major overhaul of QSA section: Branch conneg-ACTION-343 preview 12:25:45 https://raw.githack.com/w3c/dxwg/conneg-ACTION-343/conneg-by-ap/index.html 12:28:03 ncar: all minor changes requested processed - still open question about QSA "key discovery" completeness or relevance 12:29:09 ... easier to reference things now behavioural profiles - may be able to remove reference to abstract "Realization" and reference profiles by name 12:31:22 roba: will update OGC implementation to use the "canonical" QSA instead of an alternative 12:32:28 ... most critical to get evidence 12:32:55 ... feeling is we cannot proscribe mechanisms for alternate realisations.. but can specifiy requirements 12:33:41 ... and the tricky requirement is to define how to discover what implementation is being used from a resource - easier from a catalog description. 12:34:24 ... so propose to drop Link header example 12:35:23 ncar: can put examples of other possible implementations into another repository 12:36:55 roba: Linked Data API for example has a /meta/ resource which describes the API - including the list of views available. 12:38:52 ncar: in example10 we have a json example of link headers - so we could actually define the data model 12:40:27 roba: json schema and json-ld contexts overlap - but we can define a data model in RDFS and create a json-ld implementation and json schema for it 12:40:45 LarsG: agree we need a data model 12:41:48 roba: where is the json example? 12:42:39 ncar: look at the other way - we define a data model for profiles listings - then we can show how it can be used as a canonical alternates view content 12:42:57 roba: +1 12:43:20 The JSON example is Example 10: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/dxwg/conneg-ACTION-343/conneg-by-ap/index.html#eg-list-profiles-mediatype 12:44:32 roba: content in a response document is often nested inside some metadata/wrapper - e.g. WFS or Linked Data API - so we need to specify content - not its position in response document 12:45:11 ... eg xpath //x means any existence of x in a document 12:47:36 roba: can we compare "alternates view" data models 12:47:53 ncar: ok lets review previous work 12:48:25 roba: implementation at OGC is an interim - need to update soon 12:49:35 ACTION: roba to convene working session to co-develop common model to match link header data and alternates view requirements. 12:49:35 Created ACTION-358 - to convene working session to co-develop common model to match link header data and alternates view requirements. [on Rob Atkinson - due 2019-08-08]. 12:50:04 Subtopic: Status check of 3PWD Issues 12:51:29 ncar: other implementations can go into code repositories not document itself 12:51:59 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/20 13:01:12 issues are being updated as discussed. 13:02:21 RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2 13:02:21 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/08/01-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG 14:28:54 Zakim has left #dxwgcneg