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19:53:35 <PWinstanley> chair: PWinstanley
19:53:42 <PWinstanley> meeting: DXWG Plenary
19:55:03 <PWinstanley> regrets+ DaveBrowning, Alejandra, Antoine, SimonCox
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19:55:49 <PWinstanley> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2019.07.23
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19:56:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/07/23-dxwg-minutes.html PWinstanley
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20:03:50 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:07:05 <ncar> scribe: ncar
20:07:11 <annette_g> present+
20:07:19 <ncar> chair: PWinstanley
20:07:25 <ncar> topic: Admin
20:07:25 <PWinstanley> topic: admin
20:07:32 <PWinstanley> https://www.w3.org/2019/07/16-dxwg-minutes
20:07:49 <ncar> Resolution: Accept Minutes of previous meeting
20:08:02 <AndreaPerego> 0 (was not there)
20:08:03 <PWinstanley> -0 (not there)
20:08:06 <riccardoAlbertoni> +0 ( i was not there)
20:08:09 <ncar> 0 (was not there)
20:08:24 <annette_g> +1
20:08:27 <kcoyle> +1
20:08:39 <ncar> resolved: Accept Minutes of previous meeting
20:09:02 <AndreaPerego> s/Resolution: /proposed: /
20:09:05 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:09:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/07/23-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:09:14 <ncar> PWinstanley: we will skip the Open Action Items - all subgroup stuff
20:10:02 <ncar> topic: Definition of 'data profile' / 'profile'
20:10:19 <ncar> PWinstanley: do we make every occurence of 'profile' specific for 'data profile'?
20:10:59 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to state at the beginning and then use profile
20:11:02 <annette_g> +1 to clarifying at the beginning and using the simpler form in most places
20:11:06 <ncar> PWinstanley: do people have views on this? My own view is that it could be mentioned as a statement of convention at the beginning (that 'data profile' == 'profile')
20:11:15 <ncar> PWinstanley: can people present views?
20:11:29 <kcoyle> +1 with what annette says
20:11:29 <ncar> +1 to state at the beginning and then use profile
20:11:40 <AndreaPerego> +1
20:12:10 <ncar> PWinstanley: let's place something at the beginning - when we say 'profile' we mean 'data profile'
20:12:36 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:12:48 <PWinstanley> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:12:50 <ncar> PWinstanley: I haven't been at recent DCAT meetings, can riccardoAlbertoni or AndreaPerego say something?
20:12:56 <AndreaPerego> topic: DCAT
20:12:59 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:12:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/07/23-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:13:15 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1biOFTFAlF6wd7nhi5MsSusMokfdbwWII9OXSyfAw2iQ/edit#gid=0
20:13:44 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: briefly, we have been dealing with feedback & editorial issues, this link lists most issues we want to address before CR
20:13:55 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: most are closed / due for closing
20:14:27 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: any questions?
20:15:00 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: do we need a vote before the submission to W3C?
20:15:16 <ncar> PWinstanley: it would be prudent, will have to do this next week
20:15:21 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:15:31 <PWinstanley> ack AndreaPerego
20:15:55 <ncar> AndreaPerego: if people won't attend next week, can they be asked to vote via email?
20:16:02 <ncar> PWinstanley: yes, I will issue a poll
20:16:44 <kcoyle> +1 for congrats to DCAT group!!
20:17:25 <ncar> action: PWinstanley to issue a poll for voting on DCAT - due 2019-07-30
20:17:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-350 - Issue a poll for voting on dcat [on Peter Winstanley - due 2019-07-30].
20:17:40 <AndreaPerego> Thanks for the congrats!
20:17:51 <ncar> PWinstanley: we congratulate the DCAT team
20:18:35 <ncar> PWinstanley: do we need more DCAT implementation evidence?
20:18:46 <ncar> AndreaPerego: yes, more non-DCAT-AP would be good
20:19:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:20:01 <PWinstanley> ack riccardoAlbertoni
20:20:03 <ncar> PWinstanley: EC community is aware of DCAT rev becoming available
20:20:46 <ncar> riccardoAlbertoni: considering August break, can we have more than 28 days to collect implementation evidence?
20:21:21 <ncar> PWinstanley: we can ask Phillipe or present the CR in later Aug. This meeting is not formal - just a status check
20:21:54 <ncar> topic: Conneg Profiles
20:22:11 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:22:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/07/23-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego
20:22:11 <PWinstanley> ncar: we have been meeting for the last few weeks
20:22:56 <PWinstanley> ... for the last couple of months there have been PWD issues - they are not major.  We have dealt with the large ones, except for one about service discovery and service representation
20:23:32 <PWinstanley> ... This relates to encountering and querying  - the thinking on how to deal with this is still maturing
20:23:55 <PWinstanley> ... but we are close.  In 1-2 weeks we will come to the plenary with a solution
20:24:08 <PWinstanley> ... we will then be close to PWD3
20:24:32 <PWinstanley> ... this will be an issue-fixing release, and thereafter it will be (hopefully)editorial
20:25:47 <ncar> q+
20:26:24 <PWinstanley> kcoyle: we need to ensure that the docs don't have dependencies on other docs that we are working on
20:26:28 <PWinstanley> ack ncar
20:27:03 <PWinstanley> ncar: the top of the conneg doc refers principally to the IETF doc, and also to the vocabulary  (but that isn't normative)
20:27:38 <kcoyle> q+
20:27:52 <PWinstanley> ... we do hope finish off the PWD3 and then to circle back to the profiles vocab, and then come back to conneg
20:28:20 <PWinstanley> ... this should help us separate out the potential blurring that there is for comments at present
20:28:26 <PWinstanley> ack kcoyle
20:29:19 <ncar> Introduction: "Describing the parts of profiles and their relation to other profiles is the function of the Profiles Vocabulary [PROF], also produced by the DXWG."
20:29:21 <PWinstanley> kcoyle: we need to ensure that at the moment there isn't any reference to docs that don't exist - it is a risk
20:29:38 <PWinstanley> ... then later we can develop, perhaps, a primer
20:30:18 <ncar> topic: Meeting wrap-up
20:30:43 <ncar> PWinstanley: if there is no further business, I will send out a poll re DCAT putting forward a CR draft
20:32:06 <riccardoAlbertoni> thanks, bye !
20:32:09 <ncar> PWinstanley: thank you everyone, I wish you all a good week, see you next week
20:32:12 <AndreaPerego> Thanks, and bye!
20:32:13 <ncar> bye!
20:32:15 <annette_g> bye!
20:32:22 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:35:03 <AndreaPerego> s/Introduction:/ncar: From the introduction:/
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