15:00:13 RRSAgent has joined #audio-description 15:00:13 logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/06/10-audio-description-irc 15:00:21 Zakim has joined #audio-description 15:02:35 Meeting: Audio Description Community Group 15:02:57 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-audio-description/2019Jun/0000.html 15:03:04 Log: https://www.w3.org/2019/06/10-audio-description-irc 15:03:07 scribe: nigel 15:03:09 Chair: Nigel 15:03:20 Present: Nigel_Megitt, Peter_Blatchford 15:05:35 PeteB has joined #audio-description 15:07:25 Topic: Agenda 15:07:37 Nigel: There are two main issues to discuss. 15:09:47 Peter: I'm prepared to comment on both of the open issues. 15:10:47 Present+ Chris_OBrien 15:11:38 Chris has joined #audio-description 15:12:20 Nigel: We also have to consider future meetings. 15:12:22 .. AOB? 15:12:58 group: [no other business] 15:13:02 Topic: Open pull requests 15:13:17 Nigel: Just to note I merged the open pull requests at the end of last week so what you see at 15:13:28 -> https://w3c.github.io/adpt/ ADPT Specification 15:13:36 .. incorporates all the previously open pull requests. 15:14:27 group: [happy with those merged changes] 15:15:03 Topic: Constrain to one leaf element being active for audio at any one time? #8 15:15:14 -> https://github.com/w3c/adpt/issues/8 Github issue 8 15:16:07 Nigel: Any thoughts about this constraint? 15:16:24 Peter: I agree with Matt's comment - we don't see a user case today. 15:16:31 Chris: What about extended descriptions? 15:16:54 .. The concept of more description than is permitted within the allotted time. 15:18:50 Nigel: The timestamps at the moment are based on media, so there would need to be some kind of directive that says 15:19:03 .. "if the audio is too long for the time available, pause the media until the audio has finished" 15:19:11 .. and that could be useful for TTS also where the duration is unknown. 15:19:21 Chris: Yes, I was more thinking of possible future requirements. 15:19:31 Nigel: Right, we did not include that as a requirement for this version. 15:19:40 Peter: Agree with that. 15:19:57 Chris: I agree with Matt's comment too, just trying to provide a tangible use case. 15:20:11 Peter: That makes good sense on an on-demand application where pausing the video wouldn't be an issue. 15:20:28 Nigel: We should open this issue and defer it to a future version. 15:21:24 Chris: That's a great idea, we should do that. 15:21:42 Nigel: It could be a player feature without a directive, e.g. for braille displays where the user acknowledges that they 15:21:48 .. have finished reading before the media continues. 15:22:08 Chris: This would be great for educational uses too. Just thinking my way through it. 15:22:23 .. There are a lot of times in educational programming where there's not enough room for the description to breathe 15:22:34 .. and children for example would benefit from more robust descriptions. 15:23:01 .. I'll raise this as an issue. 15:23:03 Nigel: Thank you. 15:23:37 .. For the moment I'm seeing consensus to add the constraint for only one active leaf at a time. 15:23:50 .. I'll go ahead and draft a pull request for that so we can review and merge it. 15:23:56 .. Thank you! 15:24:01 .. Any other comment on that issue? 15:24:06 group: [no more comments] 15:24:21 Topic: Do we need to support `#contentProfiles` or `#processorProfiles`? #10 15:24:34 -> https://github.com/w3c/adpt/issues/10 Issue 10 15:26:09 Nigel: This is about planning ahead. 15:26:22 Chris: I'm happy to defer - it seems to make sense from a future compatibility viewpoint. 15:26:42 Peter: Matt has raised an interesting example. I'm not a fan of automated translation or voicing but there is an obvious 15:26:51 .. application there, which could be a good reference. 15:27:06 .. I'm in agreement with Matt's comment - we should permit people to specify but not require them to do so. 15:27:21 Nigel: Thank you, that's pretty clear, I'll draft a pull request to add those too. 15:28:22 Topic: Future meetings 15:30:28 Nigel: The main point of having a future meeting would be if there is any more discussion needed. 15:31:05 .. I can issue a call for consensus by email, so if everyone is happy with that then we don't need another meeting. 15:31:10 Chris: Works for me 15:31:25 Peter: Me too - as soon as we're happy that this is the standard to use we can go ahead with implementation. 15:34:01 Nigel: Okay, then I will prepare pull requests for the open issues, and assuming they get positive reviews and we 15:34:19 .. merge them then I will send a CfC for taking it forward for Rec track advancement in TTWG. 15:34:38 .. I don't think I'm aware of any IPR issues at the moment but I will need to check that with W3C Staff. 15:35:37 .. The only other question I have is about the Authors section at the top - I think I should move that to the 15:35:47 .. Acknowledgements section if that seems okay. 15:35:55 Peter: Sounds good to me 15:35:57 Chris: Yes 15:36:03 Nigel: Great, I'll go ahead with that. 15:36:38 Topic: Meeting close 15:36:52 Nigel: Thanks for joining, we've completed our agenda so I'll adjourn now. [adjourns meeting] 15:36:56 rrsagent, make minutes v2 15:36:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/06/10-audio-description-minutes.html nigel 15:37:21 rrsagent, make logs public 15:40:02 Regrets: none 15:40:30 scribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics 15:40:33 rrsagent, make minutes v2 15:40:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/06/10-audio-description-minutes.html nigel 17:11:12 Zakim has left #audio-description