11:58:54 RRSAgent has joined #dxwgcneg 11:58:54 logging to https://www.w3.org/2019/05/23-dxwgcneg-irc 11:58:56 RRSAgent, make logs public 11:58:56 Zakim has joined #dxwgcneg 11:58:58 Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference 11:58:58 Date: 23 May 2019 11:59:30 Meeting: DXWG CNEG Subgroup Telecon 12:00:10 present+ 12:00:26 RRSAgent, please make logs public 12:00:37 RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2 12:00:37 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/05/23-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG 12:01:13 roba has joined #dxwgcneg 12:04:08 present+ 12:08:13 ncar has joined #dxwgcneg 12:09:42 scribenick: roba 12:09:47 Chair: LarsG 12:10:01 TOPIC: confirm agenda https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.05.23 12:10:04 +1 12:10:08 +1 12:10:12 +1 12:10:41 TOPIC: approve minutes: https://www.w3.org/2019/05/16-dxwgcneg-minutes 12:10:52 +1 12:10:56 +1 12:11:01 +1 12:11:32 resolved: approve minutes: https://www.w3.org/2019/05/16-dxwgcneg-minutes 12:11:51 TOPIC: open action items https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/products/4 12:11:56 Action-193 12:11:56 Action-193 -- Rob Atkinson to Move jmeter test suite to within w3c systems -- due 2018-09-05 -- OPEN 12:11:56 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/193 12:12:10 roba: made some progress on test suite 12:12:37 roba: progress on test suite finally - using QSA flavour - will check in for review shortly 12:12:40 ... has not yet checked it in 12:13:17 ... one challenge is that the alternatives view is specified well enough 12:13:29 ... ncar can look at implementation when it's checked in 12:14:22 ncar: implementing new instance of pyLDA - making 12 instances - looking to implement some common update and consistency in alternates view 12:14:25 s/alternatives/alternates/ 12:15:20 roba: in terms of content negotiation we should not worry 12:15:28 ... about the alternates view 12:16:08 larsG: keep action open until code has been checked in and reviewd 12:16:09 action -193 , in train but still open 12:16:09 Error finding '-193'. You can review and register nicknames at . 12:16:33 action-327 12:16:33 action-327 -- Peter Winstanley to Get w3c to announce conneg pwd2 -- due 2019-05-21 -- OPEN 12:16:33 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/327 12:17:25 LarsG: Peter has written announcement to comments list 12:17:45 ... hasnt been announced wider in W3C 12:18:07 ncar: issue is do we have good enough text? 12:18:26 LarsG: Pwin has been circulating text about conned and DCAT 12:18:42 s/conned/conneg/ 12:19:03 Here is the wiki page we used for FPWD email drafting: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/wiki/Profiles-Ont-&-Conneg-RFQ-emails 12:22:28 ACTION: LarsG to poll pwin regarding ACTION-327 12:22:29 Created ACTION-336 - Poll pwin regarding action-327 [on Lars G. Svensson - due 2019-05-30]. 12:23:21 will discuss action-328 in main agenda 12:23:41 TOPIC: actions arising from plenary? 12:25:36 roba: if 6 months extension then need to clean up and get implementations out ASAP 12:26:32 ... i will be aiming to get implemented in OGC next month - need the last few technical details sorted out 12:26:56 LarsG: gives DNB opportunity to make implementation 12:27:24 roba: urges DNB to get feedback ASAP 12:28:56 ncar: have not found difficult - not very complex w.r.t. profile hierarchy. 12:30:02 ... some examples in current projects 12:30:24 TOPIC: Definition of "profile", was discussed in DCAT telecon 2019-05-22 12:31:43 roba: affects us because they need to point to us or a definition of profiles 12:31:52 ncar: no specific request 12:32:08 TOPIC: Continue discussion of Tom Baker's comments 12:33:37 roba: ncar can you review suggested draft 12:36:45 ...has view that profiles are "downstream" of vocabularies - but then goes on to suggest the more general interpretation we have proposed 12:37:35 "The spec could simply say that content negotiation would "typically" use the URIs of application profiles, in a broad sense that includes Dublin Core Application Profiles, ShEx schemas, SHACL graphs, XML formats... This would not disallow the use of URIs of things that are not commonly considered profiles, such as namespace documents." 12:41:03 suggest improving wording around conformance target 12:44:42 ...we dont have a way to specify what type of object a profile returns. at this stage thats a profile description outside of conneg scope 12:49:23 will raise specific issues for improvements in explanations 12:49:35 TOPIC : AOB 12:50:25 * Yes, silence, I can hear Rob now 12:50:44 TOPIC: issues: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aprofile-negotiation 12:53:29 roba: new issue #942 talks about profiles. This has been discussed in 12:53:43 ... #662 so we'll refer them to that issue 12:54:37 "relates to #662 - we have attempted to distinguish these issues. If a WFS3 based example around use of outputSchema is available we will consider it as an example of Query String base negotiation - if there is a way to list options." 12:58:02 relates to #662 - we have attempted to distinguish these issues. If a WFS3 based example around use of outputSchema (as opposed to output format) is available we will consider it as an example of Query String base negotiation - if there is a way to list options and schemas wont be further profiled in practice. 13:00:50 RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2 13:00:50 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/05/23-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG 14:25:39 Zakim has left #dxwgcneg