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14:45:57 <dauwhe> Meeting: Publishing Business Group Steering Committee
14:46:03 <dauwhe> Chair: probably none
14:46:06 <dauwhe> Date: maybe
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14:53:26 <ivan> do we have a call today?
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14:58:36 <dauwhe> There's no agenda. I know at least two of the BG chairs are out. It's a holiday in many parts of the world.
14:58:53 <dauwhe> I'll call in just to see if anyone is there.
15:00:38 <ivan> I will
15:01:00 <ivan> I am in, so you can join...
15:01:37 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
15:01:37 <ivan> Meeting: Publishing Chairs’ Telco
15:01:37 <ivan> Chair:  Daihei
15:01:37 <ivan> Date: 2019-04-19
15:01:37 <ivan> Regrets+ Liisa, Luc, Karen
15:01:46 <ivan> regrets+ tzviya
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15:03:26 <jeff_> present+
15:03:30 <ivan> present+
15:03:35 <George> present+ George
15:03:36 <dauwhe> present+
15:03:45 <dauwhe> scribenick: dauwhe
15:03:54 <ivan> present+ daihei
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15:04:03 <garth> present+ Garth
15:06:18 <dauwhe> dauwhe: the EPUB 3 CG is voting on final approval for EPUB 3.2
15:06:44 <dauwhe> ... the business group also needs to approve
15:09:06 <dauwhe> various: discussion of timing of voting
15:11:09 <dauwhe> dauwhe: so we send out email from BG on April 23, and voting ends April 30
15:11:19 <jeff_> q+
15:11:24 <dauwhe> ack jef
15:12:15 <ivan> q+
15:12:37 <dauwhe> Jeff: I want to make sure we reach out to Japan, and make sure they are OK with this
15:13:01 <dauwhe> Daihei: I will make sure that people in Japan have enough information
15:13:17 <dauwhe> ... and I can report any reluctance that I hear
15:13:29 <dauwhe> ... I will take care of it
15:13:33 <dauwhe> ack ivan
15:13:53 <dauwhe> ivan: There was a mailing list set up in Japanese. Is that active; can we use that channel?
15:14:20 <dauwhe> daihei: yes. In addition to sending out agenda to global PBG members, I let everyone know ahead of time in Japan
15:14:40 <dauwhe> ... and I send out an agenda to japanese members, using that ML
15:14:50 <dauwhe> ... and I send that to Taiwan
15:15:11 <dauwhe> ivan: if we have BG next Tuesday, we decide to start voting, then you can send that information out right after the meeting?
15:15:16 <dauwhe> daihei: yes
15:15:19 <dauwhe> ivan: that's good
15:19:02 <ivan> regrets+ rachel
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15:25:55 <jeff_> q+
15:26:08 <dauwhe> ack jeff
15:32:35 <jeff_> https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/summary/
15:35:02 <dauwhe> q+
15:37:26 <dauwhe> ack dauw
15:44:46 <garth> q+
15:45:24 <dauwhe> ack garth
15:47:11 <jeff_> George: What about IP
15:47:48 <jeff_> Jeff: If you want IP protection, you might consider getting participants and their companies signing the FSA
15:47:55 <jeff_> ... FSA information ^^
15:48:04 <jeff_> ... but that would take time.
15:48:39 <jeff_> Garth: (not as a lawyer) EPUB 3.2 inherits IP protection from 3.1 and 3.0.1
15:48:46 <jeff_> Dave: Some new features
15:48:59 <jeff_> ...e.g. Makoto's @@ feature
15:49:19 <garth> s/@@/voicing metadata/
15:49:45 <jeff_> ... we need to learn by doing
15:50:14 <jeff_> Ivan: Need to share this on Tuesday with the BG
15:50:37 <jeff_> ... can you do that Dave, clearly?
15:50:43 <jeff_> Dave: Can't guarantee clear
15:50:46 <jeff_> Ivan: I agree
15:51:03 <jeff_> ... George, can you talk to your lawyers
15:51:15 <jeff_> Garth: I can check.  I'm optimistic.
15:51:20 <jeff_> George: I raised it as well.
15:51:36 <jeff_> ... would hate to delay.
15:51:45 <jeff_> q+
15:52:59 <dauwhe> ack jeff
15:55:09 <jeff_> Jeff: Also possible to get a consensus, announce on the 30th together with the checker
15:55:16 <jeff_> ... tell everyone it is final
15:55:43 <jeff_> ... but continue to get FSA's signed and formal do a final publication later with the FSA's.
15:56:06 <jeff_> George: So basically we are done on the 30th, but we restate this at a later point with the FSA's.
15:56:19 <jeff_> Garth: Yes an announcement; followed by a formal publication.
15:57:12 <jeff_> Dave: So procedurally are there two "final" specs?
15:57:27 <dauwhe> https://www.w3.org/community/json-ld/spec/48/commitments
15:57:29 <jeff_> Jeff: Ivan needs to take an action to report back on how that works
15:58:51 <jeff_> Jeff: Thanks, Dave, for pointing to JSON-LD.  Few commitments because it then transitioned to REC track and commitments came there
15:59:21 <jeff_> ... EPUB 3.2 is different because that has no (current) plan to transition - so this is our best and perhaps final chance to get full spec commitments
15:59:31 <jeff_> Ivan: Bring to the BG on Tuesday.
16:00:17 <jeff_> Dave: I'll tee this up for the BG agenda
16:00:23 <jeff_> ... and also talk to folks
16:01:06 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:01:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/04/19-pbgsc-minutes.html ivan
16:01:06 <ivan> zakim, bye
16:01:06 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
16:01:06 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
16:01:06 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jeff_, ivan, George, dauwhe, daihei, Garth
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16:01:07 <jeff_> rrsagent, make minutes
16:01:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/04/19-pbgsc-minutes.html jeff_