IRC log of dxwgdcat on 2019-02-27

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RRSAgent, draft minutes v2

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning

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meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference 27 February 2019 21:00 UTC

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regrets: Alasdair Gray (ongoing), Erik Mannens (ongoing), Thomas D'Haenens, Lars Svensson

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regrets: Alasdair Gray, Erik Mannens, Thomas D'Haenens, Lars Svensson

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RRSAgent, draft minutes v2

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning

20:49:56 [DaveBrowning]

agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.02.27

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chair: DaveBrowning

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present+

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RRSAgent, draft minutes v2

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning

20:58:58 [SimonCox]

present+

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regrets+ PWinstanley, Makx, AndreaPerego

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RRSAgent, draft minutes v2

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning

21:04:56 [riccardoAlbertoni]

present +

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present_

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present+

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s/present_//

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present+

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RRSAgent, draft minutes v2

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html alejandra

21:08:13 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

scribenick: Jaroslav_Pullmann

21:08:34 [DaveBrowning]

agenda - https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.02.27

21:09:20 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: asking for updates to agenda, new pull requests to consider

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q+

21:09:40 [DaveBrowning]

ack Jaroslav_Pullmann

21:10:32 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

Jaroslav_Pullmann: optionally talk abput the status of versioning discussion

21:11:21 [riccardoAlbertoni]

s/abput/about

21:11:33 [DaveBrowning]

topic: Last weeks minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/02/20-dxwgdcat-minutes

21:11:34 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

topic: approve minutes of last week

21:11:48 [SimonCox]

+1

21:11:53 [riccardoAlbertoni]

+1

21:11:54 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

0 (absent)

21:11:56 [alejandra]

+1

21:12:16 [DaveBrowning]

0 (absent)

21:12:27 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

resolved: minutes approved

21:12:46 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

topic: publication schedule (from last week)

21:13:06 [alejandra]

+q

21:13:12 [DaveBrowning]

acl alejandra

21:13:17 [DaveBrowning]

ack alejandra

21:13:22 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: is there a consensus about abour goal?

21:13:53 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: we aim for rec by June, need to submit by mid April, need to be ready by mid March

21:13:57 [riccardoAlbertoni]

yes we were targeting mid march

21:14:54 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: are there any tasks prioritized?

21:15:20 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: e.g. statements about security, namespace page .. what else?

21:15:42 [DaveBrowning]

q?

21:15:44 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: any cricital issues?

21:16:28 [alejandra]

+q

21:16:28 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

q+

21:16:35 [DaveBrowning]

ack alejandra

21:17:14 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: looking at milestone 3rd public WD, e.g. versioning, other issues under discussion + editorial ones

21:17:17 [DaveBrowning]

ack Jaroslav_Pullmann

21:17:54 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

topic: open action itmes

21:17:54 [DaveBrowning]

https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open

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s/itmes/items/

21:18:49 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: hard to estimate without Peter & Andrea being here

21:19:22 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: move on, no substantial progress

21:19:32 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

topic: planning and organisation

21:19:44 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

... sprint planning

21:20:08 [riccardoAlbertoni]

+q

21:20:31 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: Dave Raggett is not available because of the W3C graph workshop next week

21:20:41 [DaveBrowning]

ack riccardoAlbertoni

21:20:55 [riccardoAlbertoni]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eEVUuPFAGO2GjS5ocxylY8T1AlpqlwnOTc3er_Mhcv4/edit#gid=0

21:22:38 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

riccardoAlbertoni: I worked this week on a summary of DCAT 2.0 implementations

21:23:02 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

... could we invite other parties / working groups to augment?

21:23:16 [alejandra]

+q

21:23:23 [DaveBrowning]

ack alejandra

21:23:57 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: we should call to people that may provide implementations ..

21:24:22 [riccardoAlbertoni]

I can

21:24:25 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: anybody to draft such an invitation email?

21:25:53 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

.. will not work, I'll remember my action, there are organisational problems..

21:26:42 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: back to sprint planning: sprint next week on implementation?

21:28:06 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

... but it might be tough because of the short time remaining

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topic: closing github issues

21:28:34 [DaveBrowning]

https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22due+for+closing%22+label%3A%22dcat%22

21:29:24 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: this one suprised me:

21:29:30 [DaveBrowning]

Ids this issue ready? https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/411

21:29:44 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

s/suprised/surprised/

21:29:49 [alejandra]

+q

21:30:08 [DaveBrowning]

ack alejandra

21:30:15 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: what is the status?

21:31:01 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: we've agreed on Annett's proposal to collect examples

21:31:19 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: it's more about relation of distributions..

21:32:05 [DaveBrowning]

q?

21:33:22 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

SimonCox: at the end it is a decision of the publisher, a general solution maight be a profile

21:34:00 [SimonCox]

For more esoteric properties, a provider might define extensions in a DCAT profile

21:34:24 [riccardoAlbertoni]

s/riccardoAlbertoni: I worked this week on a summary of DCAT 2.0 implementations/ riccardoAlbertoni: I worked this week on Andrea's summary of DCAT 2.0 implementations adding LusTRE example

21:36:12 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: decision on #411 - it should be closed, like those 6 listed

21:36:55 [DaveBrowning]

proposal: to close all of the DCAT issues currently in 'due for closing'

21:37:16 [alejandra]

+q

21:37:22 [DaveBrowning]

ack alejandra

21:38:13 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: I did ot look at all of them, we may close those, that are resolved, otherwise we should mark "wan't fix"

21:38:30 [DaveBrowning]

proposal: to close all of the DCAT issues currently in 'due for closing', marking as wontfix if appropriate

21:38:30 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

s/did ot/did not/

21:38:42 [riccardoAlbertoni]

+1

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q+

21:41:22 [SimonCox]

+1

21:41:37 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: is the silence indicating approval, or?

21:41:45 [DaveBrowning]

proposal: to close all of the DCAT issues currently in 'due for closing', marking as wontfix if appropriate

21:41:48 [alejandra]

+1

21:42:01 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

+0 (can't say at moment)

21:42:20 [DaveBrowning]

resolved: to close all of the DCAT issues currently in 'due for closing', marking as wontfix if appropriate

21:42:32 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

rrsagent: draft minutes v2

21:42:32 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html Jaroslav_Pullmann

21:42:56 [alejandra]

+q

21:43:01 [DaveBrowning]

ack alejandra

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topic: implementation evidence

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ack Jaroslav_Pullmann

21:43:53 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: we discussed last week, Andrea created the sheet, Riccardo will create the email, please vote on the doodle poll

21:44:02 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

topic: open pull requests

21:44:05 [DaveBrowning]

topic: pull requests

21:44:17 [DaveBrowning]

https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/741

21:45:09 [riccardoAlbertoni]

+q

21:45:15 [DaveBrowning]

ack riccardoAlbertoni

21:45:39 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: should we talk about this (e.g. ordering of contributors)?

21:46:10 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

riccardoAlbertoni: me should not be the first one (because of alphabet)

21:46:53 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: hard to give a (different) ordering

21:47:16 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: should look at other substantial pull requests, will park this

21:47:23 [DaveBrowning]

https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/776

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https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/777

21:48:19 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

SimonCox: almost ready on spatial resolution (#777)

21:49:01 [alejandra]

+q

21:49:34 [DaveBrowning]

ack ale

21:49:43 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

SimonCox: still working on other issues as well

21:49:59 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: thanks to SimonCox for helping out here

21:51:02 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: the original UC I submitted was about a way to represent / link a "summary statistics"

21:51:14 [DaveBrowning]

q+

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ack DaveBrowning

21:52:14 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

DaveBrowning: we should give such relevant measures/sizes etc.

21:52:50 [alejandra]

examples that my use cases was considering is knowing statistics about the data, which would be specific for a domain, such as number of patients

21:53:04 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

SimonCox: which (else) type of statistics were required?

21:53:22 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

q+

21:53:28 [DaveBrowning]

q?

21:54:18 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: this probably may be solved by Data Cube structures (or void), depending on the domain

21:54:19 [SimonCox]

and also temporalResolution is now ready as well (#776)

21:54:23 [DaveBrowning]

ack Jaroslav_Pullmann

21:55:34 [SimonCox]

I worked on temporal- and spatial-resolution because (a) they could be solved relatively easily (!) with some discrete additions (b) they address important requirements (late-arriving from Dagstuhl workshop)

21:55:36 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

Jaroslav_Pullmann: which types of statistics?

21:55:36 [riccardoAlbertoni]

+q

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ack riccardoAlbertoni

21:56:03 [alejandra]

+q

21:56:03 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: both: on Distributions (extrinsic) and data subjects (intrinsic)

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q?

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ack alejandra

21:57:05 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: we should make a proposal to accept the predicates suggested by SimonCox

21:57:41 [DaveBrowning]

proposal: accept the changes in pull requests #776 and #777 (pending final review of detail)

21:58:02 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

+1

21:58:12 [SimonCox]

+1

21:58:20 [DaveBrowning]

+1

21:58:50 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

SimonCox: reporting on both predicates

21:58:55 [SimonCox]

this relates to additional predicates (i) dcat:temporalResolution (ii) dcat:spatialResolutionInMetres

21:59:05 [alejandra]

+1

21:59:06 [riccardoAlbertoni]

+1

21:59:55 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

SimonCox: these are straight forward datatype properties with simple XSD datatypes (duration, decimal)

22:00:54 [DaveBrowning]

resolved accept the changes in pull requests #776 and #777 (pending final review of detail)

22:01:00 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

q+

22:01:02 [DaveBrowning]

resolved: accept the changes in pull requests #776 and #777 (pending final review of detail)

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... by editors

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ack Jaroslav_Pullmann

22:02:21 [SimonCox]

rrsagent: draft minutes v2

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html SimonCox

22:02:24 [alejandra]

https://www.standict.eu/OpenCalls/5th-Open-Call

22:03:06 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

alejandra: EU call for applying for funding (for meetings?)

22:03:41 [Jaroslav_Pullmann]

.. e.g. to support F2F meetings (applies to European partners)

22:03:51 [DaveBrowning]

rrsagent: draft minutes v2

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning

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bye!

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present-

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