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20:48:23 <DaveBrowning> meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference 27 February 2019 21:00 UTC
20:49:04 <DaveBrowning> regrets:  Alasdair Gray (ongoing), Erik Mannens (ongoing), Thomas D'Haenens, Lars Svensson
20:49:20 <DaveBrowning> regrets:  Alasdair Gray, Erik Mannens, Thomas D'Haenens, Lars Svensson
20:49:25 <DaveBrowning> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
20:49:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning
20:49:56 <DaveBrowning> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.02.27
20:50:19 <DaveBrowning> chair: DaveBrowning
20:50:24 <DaveBrowning> present+
20:50:30 <DaveBrowning> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:58:58 <SimonCox> present+
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21:04:35 <DaveBrowning> regrets+ PWinstanley, Makx, AndreaPerego
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21:04:50 <DaveBrowning> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:04:56 <riccardoAlbertoni> present +
21:05:20 <alejandra> present_
21:05:23 <alejandra> present+
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21:05:57 <alejandra> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
21:05:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/27-dxwgdcat-minutes.html alejandra
21:08:13 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> scribenick: Jaroslav_Pullmann
21:08:34 <DaveBrowning> agenda - https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.02.27
21:09:20 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: asking for updates to agenda, new pull requests to consider
21:09:30 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
21:09:40 <DaveBrowning> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
21:10:32 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> Jaroslav_Pullmann: optionally talk abput the status of versioning discussion
21:11:21 <riccardoAlbertoni>  s/abput/about
21:11:33 <DaveBrowning> topic: Last weeks minutes https://www.w3.org/2019/02/20-dxwgdcat-minutes
21:11:34 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> topic: approve minutes of last week
21:11:48 <SimonCox> +1
21:11:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:11:54 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> 0 (absent)
21:11:56 <alejandra> +1
21:12:16 <DaveBrowning> 0 (absent)
21:12:27 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> resolved: minutes approved
21:12:46 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> topic: publication schedule (from last week)
21:13:06 <alejandra> +q
21:13:12 <DaveBrowning> acl alejandra
21:13:17 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
21:13:22 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: is there a consensus about abour goal?
21:13:53 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: we aim for rec by June, need to submit by mid April, need to be ready by mid March
21:13:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> yes we were targeting mid march
21:14:54 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: are there any tasks prioritized?
21:15:20 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: e.g. statements about security, namespace page .. what else?
21:15:42 <DaveBrowning> q?
21:15:44 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: any cricital issues?
21:16:28 <alejandra> +q
21:16:28 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
21:16:35 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
21:17:14 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: looking at milestone 3rd public WD, e.g. versioning, other issues under discussion + editorial ones
21:17:17 <DaveBrowning> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
21:17:54 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> topic: open action itmes
21:17:54 <DaveBrowning> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
21:18:06 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> s/itmes/items/
21:18:49 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: hard  to estimate without Peter & Andrea being here
21:19:22 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: move on, no substantial progress
21:19:32 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> topic: planning and organisation
21:19:44 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> ... sprint planning
21:20:08 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
21:20:31 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: Dave Raggett is not available because of the W3C graph workshop next week
21:20:41 <DaveBrowning> ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:20:55 <riccardoAlbertoni> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eEVUuPFAGO2GjS5ocxylY8T1AlpqlwnOTc3er_Mhcv4/edit#gid=0
21:22:38 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> riccardoAlbertoni: I worked this week on a summary of DCAT 2.0 implementations
21:23:02 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> ... could we invite other parties / working groups to augment?
21:23:16 <alejandra> +q
21:23:23 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
21:23:57 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: we should call to people that may provide implementations ..
21:24:22 <riccardoAlbertoni> I can
21:24:25 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: anybody to draft such an invitation email?
21:25:53 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> .. will not work, I'll remember my action, there are organisational problems..
21:26:42 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: back to sprint planning: sprint next week on implementation?
21:28:06 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> ... but it might be tough because of the short time remaining
21:28:14 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> topic: closing github issues
21:28:34 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22due+for+closing%22+label%3A%22dcat%22
21:29:24 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: this one suprised me:
21:29:30 <DaveBrowning> Ids this issue ready? https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/411
21:29:44 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> s/suprised/surprised/
21:29:49 <alejandra> +q
21:30:08 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
21:30:15 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: what is the status?
21:31:01 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: we've agreed on Annett's proposal to collect examples
21:31:19 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: it's more about relation of distributions..
21:32:05 <DaveBrowning> q?
21:33:22 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> SimonCox: at the end it is a decision of the publisher, a general solution maight be a profile
21:34:00 <SimonCox> For more esoteric properties, a provider might define extensions in a DCAT profile
21:34:24 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/riccardoAlbertoni: I worked this week on a summary of DCAT 2.0 implementations/ riccardoAlbertoni: I worked this week on Andrea's summary of DCAT 2.0 implementations adding LusTRE example
21:36:12 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: decision on #411 - it should be closed, like those 6 listed
21:36:55 <DaveBrowning> proposal: to close all of the DCAT issues currently in 'due for closing'
21:37:16 <alejandra> +q
21:37:22 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
21:38:13 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: I did ot look at all of them, we may close those, that are resolved, otherwise we should mark "wan't fix"
21:38:30 <DaveBrowning> proposal: to close all of the DCAT issues currently in 'due for closing', marking as wontfix if appropriate
21:38:30 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> s/did ot/did not/
21:38:42 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:39:41 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
21:41:22 <SimonCox> +1
21:41:37 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: is the silence indicating approval, or?
21:41:45 <DaveBrowning> proposal: to close all of the DCAT issues currently in 'due for closing', marking as wontfix if appropriate
21:41:48 <alejandra> +1
21:42:01 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +0 (can't say at moment)
21:42:20 <DaveBrowning> resolved: to close all of the DCAT issues currently in 'due for closing', marking as wontfix if appropriate
21:42:32 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> rrsagent: draft minutes v2
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21:42:56 <alejandra> +q
21:43:01 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
21:43:02 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> topic: implementation evidence
21:43:11 <DaveBrowning> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
21:43:53 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: we discussed last week, Andrea created the sheet, Riccardo will create the email, please vote on the doodle poll
21:44:02 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> topic: open pull requests
21:44:05 <DaveBrowning> topic: pull requests
21:44:17 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/741
21:45:09 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
21:45:15 <DaveBrowning> ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:45:39 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: should we talk about this (e.g. ordering of contributors)?
21:46:10 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> riccardoAlbertoni: me should not be the first one (because of alphabet)
21:46:53 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: hard to give a (different) ordering
21:47:16 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: should look at other substantial pull requests, will park this
21:47:23 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/776
21:47:28 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/777
21:48:19 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> SimonCox: almost ready on spatial resolution (#777)
21:49:01 <alejandra> +q
21:49:34 <DaveBrowning> ack ale
21:49:43 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> SimonCox: still working on other issues as well
21:49:59 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: thanks to SimonCox for helping out here
21:51:02 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: the original UC I submitted was about a way to represent / link a "summary statistics"
21:51:14 <DaveBrowning> q+
21:51:20 <DaveBrowning> ack DaveBrowning
21:52:14 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> DaveBrowning: we should give such relevant measures/sizes etc.
21:52:50 <alejandra> examples that my use cases was considering is knowing statistics about the data, which would be specific for a domain, such as number of patients
21:53:04 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> SimonCox: which (else) type of statistics were required?
21:53:22 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
21:53:28 <DaveBrowning> q?
21:54:18 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: this probably may be solved by Data Cube structures (or void), depending on the domain
21:54:19 <SimonCox> and also temporalResolution is now ready as well (#776)
21:54:23 <DaveBrowning> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
21:55:34 <SimonCox> I worked on temporal- and spatial-resolution because (a) they could be solved relatively easily (!) with some discrete additions (b) they address important requirements (late-arriving from Dagstuhl workshop)
21:55:36 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> Jaroslav_Pullmann: which types of statistics?
21:55:36 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
21:55:45 <DaveBrowning> ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:56:03 <alejandra> +q
21:56:03 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: both: on Distributions (extrinsic) and data subjects (intrinsic)
21:56:32 <DaveBrowning> q?
21:56:36 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
21:57:05 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: we should make a proposal to accept the predicates suggested by SimonCox
21:57:41 <DaveBrowning> proposal:  accept the changes in pull requests #776 and #777 (pending final review of detail)
21:58:02 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
21:58:12 <SimonCox> +1
21:58:20 <DaveBrowning> +1
21:58:50 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> SimonCox: reporting on both predicates
21:58:55 <SimonCox> this relates to additional predicates (i) dcat:temporalResolution (ii) dcat:spatialResolutionInMetres
21:59:05 <alejandra> +1
21:59:06 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:59:55 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> SimonCox: these are straight forward datatype properties with simple XSD datatypes (duration, decimal)
22:00:54 <DaveBrowning> resolved  accept the changes in pull requests #776 and #777 (pending final review of detail)
22:01:00 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
22:01:02 <DaveBrowning> resolved:  accept the changes in pull requests #776 and #777 (pending final review of detail)
22:01:22 <SimonCox> ... by editors
22:01:26 <DaveBrowning> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
22:02:21 <SimonCox> rrsagent: draft minutes v2
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22:02:24 <alejandra> https://www.standict.eu/OpenCalls/5th-Open-Call
22:03:06 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> alejandra: EU call for applying for funding (for meetings?)
22:03:41 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> .. e.g. to support F2F meetings (applies to European partners)
22:03:51 <DaveBrowning>  rrsagent: draft minutes v2
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22:03:54 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> bye!
22:03:59 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> present-
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