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19:56:06 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
19:56:06 <trackbot> Date: 13 February 2019
19:56:12 <LarsG> Meeti g
19:56:26 <LarsG> Meeting: DXWG CNEG Subgroup telecon
19:58:15 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
19:58:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/13-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
19:58:32 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please make logs public
19:58:49 <LarsG> Chair: LarsG
19:59:05 <LarsG> present+
19:59:33 <LarsG> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.02.13
19:59:43 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
19:59:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/13-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
20:00:26 <LarsG> s/Meeti g//
20:00:29 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
20:00:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/13-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
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20:01:47 <ncar> hello
20:02:53 <ncar> Can you hear me on WebEx Lars?
20:03:32 <ncar> I can see you in there but hear nothing
20:06:03 <ncar> * Rob and I can hear each other
20:06:33 <roba> * i have previously had to restart Windows Audio service "=_
20:06:58 <ncar> * I'm using WebEx on an iPhone so dont have any Windows issues
20:10:28 <roba> scribenick: roba
20:10:58 <LarsG> Topic: Confirm Agenda
20:11:00 <LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.02.13
20:11:34 <LarsG> Resolved: Agenda confirmed
20:11:36 <ncar> present+
20:11:44 <LarsG> Topic: Approve minutes
20:11:50 <LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2019/01/16-dxwgcneg-minutes.html
20:12:02 <ncar> +1
20:12:06 <roba> +1
20:12:08 <LarsG> +1
20:12:16 <LarsG> Resolved: minutes approved
20:12:30 <LarsG> Topic: open action items
20:12:31 <LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/products/4
20:12:32 <ncar> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/products/4
20:12:53 <LarsG> action-234?
20:12:53 <trackbot> action-234 -- Nicholas Car to Use definitions to create abstract model diagram and text -- due 2018-10-17 -- OPEN
20:12:53 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/234
20:14:21 <LarsG> close action-234
20:14:21 <trackbot> Closed action-234.
20:14:36 <LarsG> roba: Then I can do the sequence diagram
20:14:56 <LarsG> action-243?
20:14:56 <trackbot> action-243 -- Rob Atkinson to Go back through the discussion, come to a conclusion, discuss with antoine and work out what requirement #267 actually meant -- due 2018-11-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:14:56 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/243
20:15:39 <LarsG> roba: still pending review. The Use Cases are in the document. Probably nothing
20:15:52 <LarsG> ... more to do.
20:17:01 <LarsG> ... We can respond by saying "let's make sure there is an issue
20:17:22 <LarsG> ... in cneg-by-ap about how to negotiate multiple aspects", e. g.
20:17:39 <LarsG> ... gzip vs zip at the same time you negotiate what the content would be?
20:17:50 <LarsG> ncar: isn't that just ordinary conneg?
20:18:09 <LarsG> ... everything we do here aligns to ordinary conneg stuff.
20:18:45 <LarsG> ... see no work to be done. We're just waiting for the group to close #267
20:19:40 <LarsG> close action-243
20:19:40 <trackbot> Closed action-243.
20:20:38 <LarsG> Topic: Topics
20:20:49 <LarsG> Subtopic: Suggest a realistic timing for a 2PWD
20:21:40 <roba> LarsG: seems like quite a lot of work to do
20:22:03 <roba> ncar: 2PWD was slated for end of Feb
20:22:51 <roba> ...expect to work on this post ontology doc 2PWD
20:23:37 <roba> ncar: tagged feedback issues in 2PWD
20:23:43 <LarsG> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/17
20:23:59 <roba> ...lets visit these then revisit timing
20:25:51 <roba> ... in plenary @kcoyle asked us to use feedback tag, and sub groups should delegate a responder and review response before sending out
20:29:24 <roba> LarsG: can we get these done for 2PWD
20:29:51 <LarsG> ncar: yes, time scheduled next week
20:30:08 <LarsG> ... then the other editors can approve PRs
20:30:22 <LarsG> roba: shall we do sprints like the other groups?
20:30:46 <LarsG> ncar: only eight issues, we can easily find answers to those
20:30:48 <ncar> Query for current issue: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aprofile-negotiation+label%3Afeedback
20:31:39 <LarsG> roba: we can do a mini-sprint now
20:31:54 <roba> reviewing https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/662
20:33:48 <roba> roba: lets review encoding profile def..
20:34:03 <roba> ... IANA profile registry is not really used...
20:34:58 <roba> http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/draft-inkster-profile-parameter-00.html
20:35:05 <ncar> The JSON-LD profile note: https://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld/#iana-considerations
20:38:00 <roba> ACTION: ncar to review initial "no overlap" determination and propose explanatory note
20:38:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-291 - Review initial "no overlap" determination and propose explanatory note [on Nicholas Car - due 2019-02-20].
20:38:44 <LarsG> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/663
20:39:58 <LarsG> roba: Are JSON-LD community using profiles for different cases than we?
20:40:14 <LarsG> ... OTOH they talk about different content
20:40:32 <LarsG> ... that's why we talk about tokens as profile identifiers
20:42:06 <roba> ncar: importing namespaces (context) doesnt tell you as much
20:42:31 <roba> ...the type of profile we are talking about is more general
20:43:04 <roba> roba: URI deferencing is preferred over a central registry
20:43:30 <LarsG> ... we need a richer set of options to describe the profiles
20:43:50 <LarsG> ... and we think that profiles need to be more richly described
20:44:02 <LarsG> ... (inheritance etc.) and we don't think that a profile registry
20:44:08 <LarsG> ... will scale
20:44:38 <roba> roba: json-ld context is more an artefact related to a profile?
20:48:07 <roba> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/290 needed to fully address these comments
20:51:56 <roba> also addresses #587 and #546
20:57:20 <roba> ACTION: roba to write up set of possible models to realise req #290 for discussion
20:57:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-292 - Write up set of possible models to realise req #290 for discussion [on Rob Atkinson - due 2019-02-20].
21:00:39 <roba> addresses #382
21:01:34 <roba> ACTION: LarsG to update examples - following principle of symmetry with Accept mime behaviours
21:01:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-293 - Update examples - following principle of symmetry with accept mime behaviours [on Lars G. Svensson - due 2019-02-20].
21:03:18 <roba> ACTION: ncar to set time next week for sprint
21:03:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-294 - Set time next week for sprint [on Nicholas Car - due 2019-02-20].
21:05:03 <LarsG> ncar: we'll use next week's slot for profgui as a sprint meeting for conneg
21:05:12 <LarsG> (all agree)
21:05:21 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
21:05:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2019/02/13-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
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