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08:32:21 <ncar_> meeting pwd pls!
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08:35:56 <DaveBrowning> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2018.09.20
08:36:13 <SimonCox> topic: confirm agenda
08:37:02 <SimonCox> +1
08:37:06 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
08:37:15 <alejandra> +1
08:37:15 <ncar_> 0
08:37:29 <DaveBrowning> +1
08:37:29 <SimonCox> resolved: agenda confirmed
08:37:35 <arminhaller> +1
08:37:43 <SimonCox> topic: approve minutes of last meeting
08:37:45 <DaveBrowning> https://www.w3.org/2018/09/13-dxwgdcat-minutes
08:37:54 <riccardoAlbertoni> 0 (i was not present)
08:38:02 <ncar_> 0
08:38:04 <SimonCox> +1
08:38:04 <arminhaller> 0 (wasn't present)
08:38:08 <alejandra> +1
08:38:21 <DaveBrowning> +1
08:38:27 <SimonCox> resolved: minutes of last meeting accepted
08:38:41 <SimonCox> topic: outstanding issues
08:38:45 <DaveBrowning> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
08:38:50 <SimonCox> s/issues/actions/
08:39:59 <SimonCox> no ANdrea, no Makx
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08:40:44 <SimonCox> Jaro's open action https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/143
08:40:51 <SimonCox> present+
08:40:56 <DaveBrowning> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/143
08:43:26 <DaveBrowning> q?
08:43:37 <SimonCox> Jaroslav_Pullmann: unclear exactly what the issue is. hasRelation, hasPart logic? need more evidence ...
08:44:31 <SimonCox> ... some examples of _misuse_ of DCAT in European portal
08:45:23 <SimonCox> ... DaveBrowning and Jaroslav_Pullmann to make more explicit issue
08:46:36 <SimonCox> ncar_: action-175 - move date back
08:46:43 <alejandra> +q
08:47:25 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
08:47:47 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: action-184 underway
08:48:18 <SimonCox> alejandra: links go to RDF landing page ... prefer to point inside document instead
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08:48:40 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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08:49:08 <AndreaPerego> meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference
08:49:16 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2018.09.20
08:49:18 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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08:49:19 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: has been trying to make document behave like DCAT-2014 doc - type definitions point to NS landing page (other links point inside document)
08:49:22 <alejandra> q-
08:50:31 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: precedents are mixed across other W3C specs and the DCAT 2014
08:50:48 <alejandra> q+
08:50:54 <SimonCox> ... proposes to open issue for which patterns to use going forward
08:51:19 <SimonCox> ... likes the prov-o pattern best
08:51:47 <AndreaPerego> ack alejandra
08:52:30 <SimonCox> action: DaveBrowning to open issue to fix pattern for links within rec document
08:52:30 <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel.
08:53:18 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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08:53:54 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: action-186 and action-187 either complete or in progress
08:55:24 <SimonCox> close action-217 and action-216
08:55:39 <SimonCox> topic: public comments
08:55:40 <SimonCox> nothing
08:55:47 <SimonCox> topic: 2PWD
08:57:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> no we can keep the issue and ask for external comment in the same issue thread
08:58:15 <alejandra> q+
08:58:22 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/251
08:59:27 <SimonCox> https://rawgit.com/w3c/dxwg/dcat-alignments-schema/dcat/index.html#dcat-sdo
08:59:52 <DaveBrowning> ack ale
08:59:55 <SimonCox> ack alejandra
09:00:53 <SimonCox> q+
09:01:11 <alejandra> https://schema.org/Dataset
09:01:14 <SimonCox> topic: schema.org alignment
09:01:18 <alejandra> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets
09:01:59 <DaveBrowning> q?
09:02:06 <DaveBrowning> ack SimonCox
09:02:57 <alejandra> q+
09:03:35 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to include the simon's with the alejandra's additions in the 2PWD
09:05:05 <SimonCox> alejandra: points out that an alignment from schema.org to early DCAT is available, and should be mentioned
09:05:18 <SimonCox> q+
09:05:44 <DaveBrowning> ack alejandra
09:05:53 <DaveBrowning> ack SimonCox
09:08:04 <SimonCox> SimonCox: do we need to have a vote in this meeting so we can send it to plenary next week
09:08:08 <SimonCox> q+
09:08:24 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: asking what process should be?
09:08:36 <SimonCox> ack SimonCox
09:08:39 <DaveBrowning> ack SimonCox
09:10:10 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to SimonCox ( we should not miss the opportunity for external comments on issue that are open)
09:10:13 <AndreaPerego> +1 to go ahead with the current DCAT to schema.org mappings
09:10:24 <alejandra> +1
09:10:31 <alejandra> we still need to look at all the other issues
09:10:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/ on issue/ on issues
09:10:54 <SimonCox> SimonCox: the pink issue box says 'this is provisional' so we can accept it now and still change it later
09:12:24 <SimonCox> Resolved: DCAT team agrees that current schema.org alignment (PR 354) should be merged, can still be changed later
09:12:38 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/353
09:13:38 <SimonCox> topic: normative text in non-normative sections
09:13:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> +q
09:13:59 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: suggest it should be part of an editorial sweep later
09:13:59 <DaveBrowning> ack riccardoAlbertoni
09:14:58 <SimonCox> riccardoAlbertoni: suggests we comment clearly on normative status in preamble?
09:15:11 <SimonCox> +1
09:15:14 <alejandra> +1
09:15:16 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
09:15:42 <arminhaller> +1
09:16:06 <DaveBrowning> +1
09:16:35 <SimonCox> resolved: add a clearer explanation of normative statements in preamble
09:16:50 <SimonCox> action: DaveBrowning to add text about normative statements
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09:16:55 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/58
09:17:05 <SimonCox> topic: data quality model
09:17:23 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: text already added is great, and good for 2PWD
09:17:39 <alejandra> +1
09:17:40 <SimonCox> ... but more work will be done, so issue 58 wills tay open
09:17:43 <SimonCox> +1
09:17:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 ( we are encouraging comments on issue 58)
09:17:57 <alejandra> s/wills tay/will stay
09:18:09 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/313
09:18:14 <alejandra> already removed from the milestone
09:18:14 <SimonCox> topic: byteSize
09:18:45 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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09:18:47 <SimonCox> topic: superclass for dcat:Distribution
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09:18:53 <SimonCox> q+
09:18:58 <DaveBrowning> ack SimonCox
09:19:14 <riccardoAlbertoni> could external commentd help in solve contradictions? in that case i would add a comment...
09:19:23 <SimonCox> SimonCox: conversation nowhere near done - leave open
09:19:38 <alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/317
09:20:38 <SimonCox> remove from milestone
09:20:42 <SimonCox> topic: dereferenceable identifiers
09:21:18 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: not enough work yet, need story about versioning etc, too big to resolve now, remove from milestone
09:21:23 <DaveBrowning> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/53
09:21:37 <alejandra> +1
09:21:46 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
09:22:02 <SimonCox> topic: project context
09:22:29 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: good work done, more needed, good for 2PWD, but further work will be added later
09:22:57 <SimonCox> topic: Links to DCAT 2014 RDF
09:23:43 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: DSR is comfortable with DaveBrowning proposal - links from NS page can point to updated RDF representation
09:24:08 <SimonCox> ... NS page needs TLC, with links to RDF for DCAT-rev
09:24:17 <SimonCox> ... matches W3C policy for namespace pages
09:24:33 <SimonCox> ... i.e. links from NS page to different versions of RDF files
09:24:43 <SimonCox> ... will be executed as part of 2PWD release
09:25:03 <SimonCox> topic: rootResource/manifest
09:25:20 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: no love recently ... remove from milestone
09:25:48 <SimonCox> topic: Distros in zip files
09:26:10 <SimonCox> DaveBrowning: much discussion in June, but no resolution, so not ready for 2PWD
09:26:28 <SimonCox> q+
09:26:30 <DaveBrowning> q?
09:26:35 <DaveBrowning> ack SimonCox
09:28:12 <riccardoAlbertoni> yes we should have a resolution ...
09:28:20 <SimonCox> proposed: congratulations to DCAT team for working efficiently to 2PWD
09:28:22 <SimonCox> +1
09:28:27 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
09:28:30 <arminhaller> +1
09:28:33 <AndreaPerego> +1
09:28:35 <DaveBrowning> +1
09:28:37 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
09:28:39 <alejandra> +1
09:28:44 <SimonCox> resolved: congratulations to DCAT team for working efficiently to 2PWD
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09:30:02 <SimonCox> regrets, Alasdair Gray (ongoing), Erik Mannens (ongoing), Thomas D'Haenens (ongoing), Lars Svensson (ongoing), Makx, Peter W
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09:30:09 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye !
09:30:22 <AndreaPerego> Bye!
09:30:25 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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09:36:29 <AndreaPerego> s/regrets, Alasdair Gray (ongoing), Erik Mannens (ongoing), Thomas D'Haenens (ongoing), Lars Svensson (ongoing), Makx, Peter W//
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