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19:55:29 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
19:55:29 <trackbot> Date: 12 September 2018
19:57:19 <LarsG> Meeting: DXWG CNEG Subgroup Telecon
19:58:45 <LarsG> Chair: LarsG
19:59:03 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
19:59:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/12-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
19:59:45 <LarsG> present+
20:00:54 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
20:00:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/12-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
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20:03:49 <ncar> trackbot, start telcon
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20:03:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
20:03:55 <trackbot> Date: 12 September 2018
20:04:02 <azaroth> present+ Rob_Sanderson
20:04:08 <ncar> present+
20:04:34 <ncar> scribeNick: ncar
20:04:45 <ncar> chair: LarsG
20:04:45 <azaroth> Thanks for scribing ncar :)
20:05:02 <LarsG> +1 to that!
20:05:20 <ncar> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2018.09.12
20:05:54 <azaroth> +1
20:05:58 <LarsG> +1
20:06:01 <ncar> +1
20:06:16 <ncar> propose: accept last meeting's minutes
20:06:19 <azaroth> +1
20:06:22 <LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2018/08/29-dxwgcneg-minutes.html
20:06:25 <LarsG> +1
20:06:32 <ncar> +1
20:06:53 <ncar> resolution: accept last meeting's minutes
20:07:13 <ncar> topic: open action items
20:07:16 <LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
20:08:01 <azaroth> https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-wg/issues/18
20:08:28 <ncar> azaroth: has discussed joint sessions with the JSON-LD WG, they are keen
20:09:05 <LarsG> trackbot close action-195
20:09:05 <trackbot> Closed action-195.
20:11:01 <LarsG> trackbot, close action-190
20:11:01 <trackbot> Closed action-190.
20:12:23 <ncar> topic: discussion of Kam Hay Fung's comment & LarsG's response
20:12:31 <LarsG> Lars' answer https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2018Aug/0109.html
20:12:46 <LarsG> Kam Hay's comment https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2018Aug/0002.html
20:17:16 <ncar> LarsG: muti-line Accept-Profile headers equivalent to comma separated, single line Accept-Profile header
20:17:54 <ncar> LarsG: the suggestion to name the profile response header Content-Profile with Content- to match other similar headers seems sensible
20:20:09 <ncar> LarsG: perhaps there's only to be a note in the IETF doc to indicate that there may be ways other than HTTP to indicate profile preference
20:21:02 <ncar> azaroth: a server dealing with a client that doesn't accept profiles: should return the default profile
20:22:29 <ncar> azaroth: you should only get an error (rather than default) if client asks for profiles unsupported and no default
20:25:31 <ncar> LarsG: we should support OPTIONS or HEAD for profile discovery
20:28:14 <ncar> LarsG: for point about server delivering q values to client - clarification of question is needed
20:30:37 <ncar> LarsG: if we use URIs for profiles but they change, how will clients know?
20:30:57 <azaroth> +1
20:31:33 <ncar> ncar: this could be solved by using different URIs for different (changed) profiles
20:33:45 <ncar> action: ncar to create an issue for profile version representation or not via identifier for W3C conneg doc
20:33:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-212 - Create an issue for profile version representation or not via identifier for w3c conneg doc [on Nicholas Car - due 2018-09-19].
20:36:47 <ncar> LArsG: will draft a reply, based on his previous work and this discussion, and check with this group before sending back to Kam Hay Fung
20:37:19 <LarsG> Action: LarsG to draft reply to KamHay, circulate with the group and then answer on the comments list
20:37:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-213 - Draft reply to kamhay, circulate with the group and then answer on the comments list [on Lars G. Svensson - due 2018-09-19].
20:39:12 <LarsG> q?
20:43:05 <ncar> action: ncar to add an additional section to the W3C conneg doc after Requirements to lay our this subgroup's recommendations for FPWD
20:43:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-214 - Add an additional section to the w3c conneg doc after requirements to lay our this subgroup's recommendations for fpwd [on Nicholas Car - due 2018-09-19].
20:44:42 <ncar> topic: planning for FPWD
20:44:47 <ncar> discussed above
20:44:58 <ncar> topic: handing of Reqs in conneg doc
20:45:23 <LarsG> ncar: 19 requirements listed in the document
20:45:35 <LarsG> ... it would be good to have listed, how we want to answer them
20:45:54 <LarsG> ... à la "this is what we suggest" or "do like this"
20:46:04 <LarsG> ... this should be answered in the text
20:46:26 <LarsG> ... e. g Profile Listing: If you want to list your profiles with http,
20:46:54 <LarsG> ... use the way specified in the RFC. Otherwise, use one of those ways.
20:48:09 <LarsG> ... If we put in answers for 3 and 4, people will see how we intend to handle the requirements
20:49:00 <ncar> action: draft responses to Reqs 3, 4 & 8 to indicate how subgroup will answer all others, styalistically
20:49:00 <trackbot> Error finding 'draft'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/users>.
20:49:32 <LarsG> Action: ncar to draft responses to Reqs 3, 4 & 8 to indicate how subgroup will answer all others, styalistically
20:49:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-215 - Draft responses to reqs 3, 4 & 8 to indicate how subgroup will answer all others, styalistically [on Nicholas Car - due 2018-09-19].
20:50:36 <ncar> topic: Propose to plenary tidy-up of titles of 'profile-negotiation' Requirement issues in GitHub
20:55:37 <ncar> no objections to this!
20:57:00 <ncar> rrsagent, generate minutes
20:57:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/12-dxwgcneg-minutes.html ncar
20:57:27 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
20:57:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/12-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG
20:57:59 <LarsG> regrets+ Rob Atkinson
20:58:01 <LarsG> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
20:58:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/12-dxwgcneg-minutes.html LarsG