08:22:56 RRSAgent has joined #dxwgdcat 08:22:56 logging to https://www.w3.org/2018/09/06-dxwgdcat-irc 08:23:12 rrsagent, make logs public 08:23:50 meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference 6 September 2018 8:30 UTC 08:24:04 agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2018.09.06 08:24:17 chair: DaveBrowning 08:24:32 rrsagent, draft minutes v2 08:24:32 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning 08:25:53 regrets+ Simon Cox, Andrea Perego, Alasdair Gray, Erik Mannens, Thomas D'Haenens, Lars Svensson, Makx 08:26:17 rrsagent, draft minutes v2 08:26:17 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning 08:28:51 present+ 08:32:14 riccardoAlbertoni has joined #dxwgdcat 08:32:40 Alejandra has joined #dxwgdcat 08:32:59 present+ 08:33:34 PWinstanley has joined #dxwgdcat 08:33:53 present+ 08:34:03 present+ 08:34:06 Hi all! 08:34:12 Jaroslav_Pullmann has joined #dxwgdcat 08:34:18 Hi! 08:37:51 scribenick: riccardoAlbertoni 08:38:18 topic: approve agenda 08:38:20 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2018.09.06 08:39:18 DaveBrowning: we are focusing on completing the Working draft by the end of this month, any suggestion comment on the agenda 08:39:19 ? 08:39:56 present+ 08:39:59 topic: approve previous minutes 08:40:10 https://www.w3.org/2018/08/30-dxwgdcat-minutes 08:40:16 proposed: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2018/08/30-dxwgdcat-minutes 08:40:31 *no worries 08:40:34 +1 08:40:36 +1 08:40:39 +1 08:40:41 0 (absent) 08:40:44 +1 08:40:55 RESOLVED: approve last meeting minutes https://www.w3.org/2018/08/30-dxwgdcat-minutes 08:41:23 open actions https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open 08:41:35 q+ 08:42:17 PWinstanley: I have one i still want to discuss with colleguague the ##### 08:43:04 Alejandra: about bytesize I will make a proposal when discussing the issue.. people are still divided .. 08:44:00 Alejandra: i am suggesting to keep the discussion in the issue tracker and i will do a proposal 08:45:59 riccardoAlbertoni: action 198 can be closed - text is merged 08:46:15 close action-198 08:46:15 Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel. 08:46:41 topic: Public comments 08:46:56 DaveBrowning: No new public comments 08:47:23 Topic: Second Working Draft 08:47:40 Contents: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/13 08:48:20 Alejandra_ has joined #dxwgdcat 08:48:26 DaveBrowning: the subtopic in the agenda are issue that are included in the milestone 08:48:53 *I have been listening but IRC got disconnected 08:49:09 Links in the document https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/320 08:49:18 DaveBrowning: the first issue 320 deals with link on the document 08:50:50 not sure why some of the links went broken, but I am fixing these, still working with david to get the thing coherent and respecting the w3c publishing rules 08:52:14 DaveBrowning: issue 313 and 125, do we still need to keep them separate? 08:53:51 Alejandra_: bytesize already existing, and the part of discussion related to the domain might pertains to other properties, while the other is about precision so I would keep it separate.. 08:55:10 DaveBrowning: I think you made good argument to keep them separate.. 08:55:22 rrsagent, create minutes v2 08:55:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html PWinstanley 08:56:40 DaveBrowning: one question is how long we keep the conversation before closing the issue, the time in running, At a some point we need to choose which are able to reasonably close .. 08:56:57 Next issue Project context [RPCX] - https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/71 08:57:57 DaveBrowning: this has been partial addressed by an example simon added, we need more examples 08:58:39 DaveBrowning: Are we going to add new example in the next document round ? 08:59:03 Alejandra has joined #dxwgdcat 08:59:13 PWinstanley: no I think I need to add some sentences so I see if i can add some text with the reference illustrated 09:01:04 DaveBrowning: i will add something here, probably in time for the face of face but not in time for the working draft 09:01:09 topic: Change domain/create superclass for dcat:Distribution - https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/317 09:03:43 DaveBrowning: we briefly discuss this last week, simon expressed the opinion that this should not be a big problem, there 37 dialogues that suggest a lack of consensus, I am happy to discuss this but it seem there is no consensum... 09:04:09 ... i am not quite sure what to do about it.. 09:04:37 topic: Dereferenceable identifiers [RDID] - https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/53 09:05:08 q+ 09:05:14 q- 09:05:24 ack riccardoAlbertoni 09:05:43 ack Alejandra 09:06:48 q+ 09:07:17 ack PWinstanley 09:07:18 Alejandra: i want to say to look to the ather issue, if there are issue not in the milestone that we can close 09:07:20 +q 09:08:54 +1 to alejandra 09:09:01 q+ 09:09:05 ack riccardoAlbertoni 09:10:24 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/58 09:10:40 ttps://rawgit.com/w3c/dxwg/dcat-issue58-riccardo/dcat/index.html#quality-conformance 09:11:36 https://rawgit.com/w3c/dxwg/dcat-issue58-riccardo/dcat/index.html#quality-conformance 09:12:45 I'm agreeing with you (riccardo) 09:13:49 Editors will process the merge request for 2PWD 09:15:11 q? 09:15:18 ack Jaroslav_Pullmann 09:15:19 DaveBrowning: adding issues 58 to the milestone .. 09:16:28 Jaroslav_Pullmann: It seems to me that the issue related to the identifier is a guidance issues.. 09:16:52 .. what is the subject of identification are we talking ? 09:17:37 DaveBrowning: i think it is a very good question 09:18:36 DaveBrowning: we have an example for citation in the document .. 09:19:49 alejandra: In term of citations and identifiers I think we should consider versioning 09:20:07 q+ 09:20:14 ack pw 09:20:17 ack PWinstanley 09:20:18 Jaroslav_Pullmann: versioning, evolution of dataset as well 09:20:24 q+ DaveBrowning 09:23:08 ack DaveBrowning 09:23:20 in XXX we are trying to express this notion of evolution, maybe we can discuss this to the F2F .. 09:23:49 s/XXX/Industrial Data Space ontology/ 09:25:09 DaveBrowning: we sent a mail about versioning, Jaroslav_Pullmann did a very good use case, and we are marshalling on that so that we can have at least a starter.. 09:25:14 rrsagent, create minutes v2 09:25:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html PWinstanley 09:26:03 +1 to minimal attention to dereferencable idents 09:26:12 +1 09:26:18 DaveBrowning: I wouldn't open this kind of storm in the draft unless we have something to propose.. 09:27:14 DaveBrowning: is there anything we want to discuss .. ? 09:27:17 q+ 09:27:46 ack Jaroslav_Pullmann 09:28:59 Jaroslav_Pullmann: I think a clustering of concerns is very helpful reading the DCAT document.. 09:29:14 DaveBrowning: sure, we will take care of it... 09:29:24 rrsagent, create minutes v2 09:29:24 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html DaveBrowning 09:30:35 bye! 09:30:38 present- 09:34:03 s/in Industrial Data Space ontology we are trying to express this notion of evolution, maybe we can discuss this to the F2F ../Jaroslav_Pullmann: in Industrial Data Space ontology we are trying to express this notion of evolution, maybe we can discuss this to the F2F .. 09:34:55 rrsagent, create minutes v2 09:34:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni 09:38:52 s/i want to say to look to the ather issue, if there are issue not in the milestone that we can close/ i want to say to check if there are issues not in the milestone that we can close 09:40:23 s/+1 to alejandra/riccardoAlbertoni: +1 to alejandra, for example issue 58 09:40:34 rrsagent, create minutes v2 09:40:34 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/09/06-dxwgdcat-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni