IRC log of dpvcg on 2018-08-21
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-irc
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- Meeting: Data Privacy Vocabularies and Controls Community Group Teleconference
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- Date: 21 August 2018
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- 13:52:38 [Bert]
- agenda: https://www.w3.org/mid/10915096.tUU11HEPGs@nyx
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- clear agenda
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- agenda+ Roll call, select scribe, agenda
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- agenda+ Minutes of last telcon
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- agenda+ Action items
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- agenda+ MyData 2018: who will be there?
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- agenda+ Use cases template on the wiki and Eva's suggestions
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- agenda+ Requirements
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- agenda+ ODRL and mixing vocabularies
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- agenda+ AOB
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- previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2018/08/07-dpvcg-minutes.html
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- RRSAgent, make minutes v2
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/08/21-dpvcg-minutes.html Bert
- 13:56:32 [AxelPollleres]
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- chair: Bert
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- regrets+ Eva
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- present+
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- present+
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- present+
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- agenda?
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- scribe: simonstey
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- Bert: any topics missing?
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- topic: Minutes of last call
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- Bert: hearing no objections
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- topic: Action items
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- -> https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/open actions
- 14:07:10 [simonstey]
- scribe: AxelPollleres
- 14:07:33 [simonstey]
- action-3
- 14:07:33 [trackbot]
- action-3 -- Bert Bos to Clarify which github space we can use W3C's github space or if we need something else -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/3
- 14:07:49 [Bert]
- trackbot, close action 3
- 14:07:49 [trackbot]
- Sorry, Bert, I don't understand 'trackbot, close action 3'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
- 14:07:51 [AxelPollleres]
- bert: Bert will create a git repo soon.
- 14:08:12 [AxelPollleres]
- trackbot, close action3
- 14:08:12 [trackbot]
- Sorry, AxelPollleres, I don't understand 'trackbot, close action3'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
- 14:08:20 [Bert]
- action 6?
- 14:08:24 [simonstey]
- close action-3
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- Closed action-3.
- 14:08:28 [AxelPollleres]
- close action 3
- 14:08:33 [simonstey]
- action-6
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- action-6 -- Michael Markevich to Draft something about Opera use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/6
- 14:08:38 [simonstey]
- action-7
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- action-7 -- Bert Bos to Add some overview of SPECIAL use case(s) -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/7
- 14:09:09 [simonstey]
- action-8
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- action-8 -- Axel Polleres to Add some more starting point vocabulary stubs -- due 2018-08-13 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/8
- 14:10:12 [simonstey]
- close action-8
- 14:10:12 [trackbot]
- Closed action-8.
- 14:10:15 [AxelPollleres]
- close action-8
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- Closed action-8.
- 14:11:18 [Bert]
- action-9
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- action-9 -- Axel Polleres to Include links to irc and minutes into the agenda next time -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/9
- 14:11:25 [Bert]
- action-10
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- action-10 -- Axel Polleres to Organize a call later on 30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync with people jooining through the conference.... will contact organizers. -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/10
- 14:11:53 [AxelPollleres]
- on 29th a dinner table for dinner table for "Semantic Interoparability" at Manala restaurant
- 14:12:01 [AxelPollleres]
- http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en
- 14:12:11 [simonstey]
- trackbot, comment action-10 we'll have a dinner in the evening before the f2f meeting at mydata; on 29th a dinner table for dinner table for "Semantic Interoparability" at Manala restaurant (http://www.manala.fi/?lang=en)
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- Notes added to action-10 Organize a call later on 30th after the mydata session or on friday morning to sync with people jooining through the conference.... will contact organizers..
- 14:12:24 [AxelPollleres]
- our session is on 30th in the morning:
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- https://mydata2018.org/sessions/semantic-interoperability-and-transparency/
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- on 30th afternoon https://mydata2018.org/sessions/agenda-setting-for-open-space/
- 14:13:54 [simonstey]
- AxelPollleres: organizing an openspace session too
- 14:15:00 [simonstey]
- ... openspace session is after lunch, don't know which session it will be exactly though
- 14:15:04 [AxelPollleres]
- enough bandwidth given we will try to dial in the group for the open space session,
- 14:15:13 [AxelPollleres]
- https://mydata2018.org/programme/
- 14:15:57 [AxelPollleres]
- there are 4 open space sessions yet, not yet surewhat slot we get.
- 14:16:26 [AxelPollleres]
- ACTION: axel to talk to Joss about Mydata open space session and maybe try to pre-fix a slot.
- 14:16:26 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-16 - Talk to joss about mydata open space session and maybe try to pre-fix a slot. [on Axel Polleres - due 2018-08-28].
- 14:16:39 [simonstey]
- action-11
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- action-11 -- Axel Polleres to Reach out to industrial data spaces project (germany) and another austrian big data project (dma). -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/11
- 14:17:05 [simonstey]
- action-12
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- action-12 -- Simon Steyskal to Look over requirements template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/12
- 14:17:54 [simonstey]
- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements
- 14:17:54 [AxelPollleres]
- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Template_for_requirements
- 14:20:10 [AxelPollleres]
- Simon: the template allows to vote on requirements in between calls.
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- q+
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- q-
- 14:25:44 [AxelPollleres]
- ACTION: Axel to try to modify the rquirements teamplate and instantiate it for some of the items on https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/Use-Cases,_Requirements,_Vocabularies
- 14:25:44 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-17 - Try to modify the rquirements teamplate and instantiate it for some of the items on https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/wiki/use-cases,_requirements,_vocabularies [on Axel Polleres - due 2018-08-28].
- 14:26:09 [simonstey]
- action-13
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- action-13 -- Stefano Bocconi to Propose use case(s) for the decode project -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/13
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- action-14
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- action-14 -- Axel Polleres to Ask hendrik for edition ieee 7012 -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/14
- 14:26:58 [simonstey]
- https://standards.ieee.org/develop/project/7012.html
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- action-15
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- action-15 -- Eva Schlehahn to look over use cases template -- due 2018-08-14 -- OPEN
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- https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/actions/15
- 14:28:04 [Bert]
- -> https://www.w3.org/mid/9412d9d7-2aac-1d3b-f9f1-d0c0799d0369@datenschutzzentrum.de Eva's e-mail on use case template
- 14:29:28 [simonstey]
- AxelPollleres: Ben and I will talk about our efforts
- 14:30:29 [Eva__ULD_]
- I sent my suggestions on the use case and on the requirements templates per email - so action done ;)
- 14:30:56 [AxelPollleres]
- ACTION: Javier to update the use case template wrt. Eva's version
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- Error finding 'Javier'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/users>.
- 14:31:13 [Bert]
- q?
- 14:32:12 [AxelPollleres]
- Javier: we probably need first the use cases to discuss more about requirements
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- Axel: we should take the list from the workshop as starting points, see action above.
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- topic: how to combine vocabularies
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- q+
- 14:33:06 [Bert]
- ack axel
- 14:33:13 [Eva__ULD_]
- I think it might depend heavily on the use cases which kind of taxonomies and vocabularies we need
- 14:34:31 [harsh]
- q+
- 14:35:14 [Bert]
- ack hars
- 14:35:38 [harsh]
- Seems audio isn't working :(
- 14:35:50 [harsh]
- But I agree with Axel
- 14:35:52 [AxelPollleres]
- maybe try typing? :-)
- 14:36:23 [harsh]
- My question was: in light of what we discussed, should we start listing concepts and properties from listed vocabularies we might find interesting
- 14:36:28 [simonstey]
- q+
- 14:37:10 [Bert]
- ack sim
- 14:37:35 [AxelPollleres]
- Can we agree that our goal is to work within one namespace and connect to it, instead of creating a coglomerate of voabularies?
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- q+
- 14:39:07 [AxelPollleres]
- simon: I don't think we should invent an own use case, if we have one vocab that covers all.
- 14:39:25 [AxelPollleres]
- ... we maybe only need a "best practices" document.
- 14:39:57 [AxelPollleres]
- ... in ORDL you can specify consent, but not it's components.
- 14:41:01 [Bert]
- ack ax
- 14:44:22 [AxelPollleres]
- Axel: I think we could have a JSON-LD profile that describes the whole policies.
- 14:44:32 [AxelPollleres]
- ... and collect our core terms.
- 14:45:16 [AxelPollleres]
- ... single namespace we mape to or JSON-LD profile combining different namespaces, is not so relevant in the end, but coherend presentation of the terms we support and need.
- 14:45:43 [AxelPollleres]
- Javier: Are we closing the use cases or are we calling for external use cases?
- 14:46:10 [AxelPollleres]
- ... so far they seem close to a couple of European projects.
- 14:46:17 [harsh]
- Perhaps we could have a cut-off line for use-cases, after which we turn those collected use-cases into requirements?
- 14:47:04 [AxelPollleres]
- Axel: we need more use cases and should spread the word as far as we can.
- 14:48:31 [harsh]
- Issue would be a good idea
- 14:48:52 [AxelPollleres]
- ISSUE: timeline/schedule, when should we stop collecting additional use cases?
- 14:48:53 [trackbot]
- Created ISSUE-1 - Timeline/schedule, when should we stop collecting additional use cases?. Please complete additional details at <https://www.w3.org/community/dpvcg/track/issues/1/edit>.
- 14:49:14 [AxelPollleres]
- ISSUE-1: postponed until after Mydata
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- Notes added to ISSUE-1 Timeline/schedule, when should we stop collecting additional use cases?.
- 14:50:12 [AxelPollleres]
- PROPOSED: next call 4 september, same time
- 14:50:18 [AxelPollleres]
- +1 :-)
- 14:50:30 [simonstey]
- +1
- 14:50:33 [Ramisa]
- +1
- 14:51:27 [AxelPollleres]
- RESOLVED: next call 4 september, same time.
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- adjourned.
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