* AdrianHB [10:03:24] we're just giving everyone a few minutes to join * AdrianHB [10:04:36] is figuring out zakim for minutes [10:04:41] zakim [10:04:50] zakim, this is Web Payments WG [10:04:50] got it, AdrianHB HB> [10:06:15] Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20180726 [10:07:49] topic: visual identity [10:08:04] roy: Facebook has hired a contractor to work on this [10:08:14] ... heath will start Monday be figured out still but the goal is a visual identity that everyone agrees with [10:09:02] ... higher level gaol is merchant adoption [10:09:48] Eiji: first time joining the call cumentation it seems important to represent the work so it easily recognisable [10:10:29] .. an explicit visual identity [10:10:43] ... first goal was a "logo" .. something for people to put on their website if they support Web Payments 11:13] ... I'd also like to figure out if the logo could be used on a button HB> [10:11:46] ... also interested in terminology for the "Web Payments button" [10:13:10] https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/issues/250 [10:13:21] Eji: Marcos highlighted 3 options: [10:13:29] ... 1. Do nothing <***> Playback Complete. ... 2. Button "Pay with Web Payments" * rouslan (~rouslan@team.cloak) has joined #wpwg present+ ... 3. Button specific to browser "Pay with Chrome" etc present+ Rouslan zakim, wh's here? I don't understand your question, Ian. zakim, who's here? Present: Ian, Rouslan , slightlyoff, emschwartz_, nicktr, mkwst, JakeA, ShaneM, dlongley, manu, ... Ian, trackbot present+ AdrianHB present+ Roy present+ Eiji present+ Ken [AdrianHB recap] ...look for a standard logo for (arbitrary) buttons * agektmr (~agektmr@team.cloak) has joined #wpwg I am also present present+ Wanli zakim, who's here? Present: Ian, Rouslan, AdrianHB, Roy, Eiji, Ken, Wanli jungkees, slightlyoff, emschwartz_, nicktr, mkwst, JakeA, ShaneM, dlongley, ... manu, Ian, trackbot d struggle to differentiate between "Pay with Chrome" and "Pay with Google" present+ Jonathan present+Eiji present+ Eiji q+ * Zakim sees rouslan on the speaker queue ganize a regular "adoption" task force meeting with a focus on visual identity * trackbot is creating a new ACTION. ifier, such as family name or username (e.g., IFSF-EFT-WG-Lead, ijacobs). ...this is an invitation to those interested ack rouslan * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue Ian: What do we need here? What merchants need is to avoid surprising the user when they click on a button with an app name it causes an app to pop up or navigate to another origin ...but few users have an understanding of a payment sheet d the ability to educate the user that THIS BUTTON will do something different ry and the phrasing worked out we can maybe do some sort of education campaign here been discussion of giving the user a preview of supported payment methods? Rouslan: We'd have to take a look at privacy of this proposal q+ * Zakim sees Ian on the speaker queue ack me * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue s to use Web Payments if they had a preview of the available payment methods " as potentially valuable, and this might go beyond a mere visual identity rouslan: There are different views on whether to be displayed he payment handler finding about the merchant before selection (canmakepayment() g., what if the user has multiple credit cards....and say, one is expired user's payment handlers? Is that too much? Does that recreate the nascar effect? ...the devil is always in the details q? * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue q? * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue IJ: Any other thoughts based on 6 months more of experience (since TPAC)? drianHB: I think that we should not underestimate the value of familiarity what merchants are looking with is simply something become familiar with ...almost becomes subconscious ...this could just be a transient way to get adoption IJ: Who would like to be part of the task force? Eiji: Me Adrian: Me Ian: Me (Ian assumes Roy and/or contractor) agenad? agenda? * Zakim sees nothing on the agenda topic: TPAC 2018 - early bird registration ends 31 July https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2018/ https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2018/registrants#WebPay https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/FTF-Oct2018 Apologies, have to run to conflicting call. BR, Ken * Ian waves IJ: Other topics we should be sure to include? ....Interledger? AdrianHB: I would like to do a demo ...also would like to discuss universal tokens the merchant gets back a proof of payment, that takes control away from payment erchants may prefer receiving a token that they use to initiate a payment rchant can't deliver a product to somebody but the payment had already happened IJ: Isn't that close to direct debit? AHB: Yes; there are a number of payment methods that have that flow e some standard metadata (e.g., how much it's worth, how long can be used, etc.) terest to the merchant even if they need to pass on to processor to get paid * stpeter (~stpeter@team.cloak) has joined #wpwg J: Any orgs you think we should be invited (who have a big presence in Europe)? ...e.g., merchant services providers, merchants? IJ: I will reach out to Adyen IJ: any contacts at Elavon? AdrianHB: Maybe NickTR can help contacts. :) AdrianHB: People are welcome to add ideas to the wiki page IJ: Please register .please contact me if you think there are people who should attend as guests. topic: AOB? [None] Topic: Next meeting 9 August but may cancel due to vacation time AdrianHB: Potential regrets