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14:59:16 <ivan> Meeting: Publishing Steering Committee Telco
14:59:16 <ivan> Chair: laudrain
14:59:16 <ivan> Date: 2018-06-15
14:59:16 <ivan> Regrets+ George, liisa
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15:00:48 <tzviya> present+
15:00:54 <RickJ> present+ RickJ
15:00:55 <laudrain> present+
15:01:10 <ivan> present+
15:01:31 <ivan> present+ daihei, jyoshii , karen
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15:02:57 <Karen> test
15:03:00 <tzviya> scribenick: Karen
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15:03:18 <Karen> scribenick: Karen
15:03:47 <ivan> present+ rachel
15:04:29 <ivan> Topic: epubcheck
15:04:39 <Karen> Luc: we have several things to discuss
15:05:03 <Karen> Tzviya, fund raising for EPUB Checker
15:05:14 <Karen> Tzviya: Liisa, Rachel and I talked about having tiered funding
15:05:23 <Karen> ...we can discuss titles and levels
15:05:33 <laudrain> Topic: epubcheck Sponsor funding
15:05:36 <Karen> [names levels]
15:05:42 <Karen> ...We need to write some copy for the web site
15:05:47 <Karen> ...generally, we need to agree on these tiers
15:05:48 <tzviya> https://github.com/IDPF/epubcheck/wiki/Epubcheck-Development-Update-and-Maintenance-Request-for-Proposal
15:05:53 <Karen> ...and I do have the RFP ready to go
15:05:58 <laudrain> q?
15:06:01 <Karen> ...Today is the day we are supposed to send it out
15:06:01 <RickJ> q+
15:06:05 <Karen> Luc: Any question on the tiers
15:06:10 <Karen> ack Rick Johnson
15:06:27 <Karen> RickJ: What are we thinking are the differences between the tiers in terms of messages to the sponsors
15:06:48 <Karen> ...Generosity of sponsors, or specific benefit differences based on the levels, or 'go for it' if you can?
15:06:52 <Karen> Tzviya: Good question
15:06:53 <Karen> q+
15:07:02 <Rachel> ack RickJ
15:07:05 <tzviya> ack RickJ
15:07:05 <Karen> ack Rick:
15:07:12 <Karen> Ivan: Bill, you are not on the right channel
15:07:18 <tzviya> ack Karen
15:07:20 <ivan> present+ billm
15:07:22 <Karen> ack: Karen
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15:07:29 <BillM> q+
15:07:51 <tzviya> q+
15:07:56 <ivan> karen: there are typically benefits, although you do not really see those benefits explicitly
15:08:03 <ivan> .... but yes, you expect those
15:08:34 <Karen> Karen: Typically sponsorship levels imply overt benefits; benefactors like philharmonic for example, are just designated formally, but may have other benefits
15:08:35 <laudrain> q?
15:08:42 <Karen> Rick: where does that list go, what are we thinking?
15:08:47 <Karen> ack Bill
15:08:49 <Rachel> q+
15:08:51 <laudrain> ack BillM
15:09:01 <Karen> Bill: I agree with Rick that leveling the promotional benefits, such as gold sponsors is one way
15:09:16 <Karen> ...or people who step up to higher level of sponsorships are included in the oversight of the project plan
15:09:30 <Karen> ...but the lower contributors implement but are not at the oversight table
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15:09:42 <Karen> ...we could also include someone in the SC if they did not step up to higher level of donation
15:09:50 <laudrain> q?
15:09:58 <laudrain> ack tzviya
15:10:00 <Karen> ...or automatically put you on the SC if you are at the higher sponsor levels; could be one way
15:10:03 <Karen> ack Tzviya
15:10:05 <tzviya> https://www.mathjax.org/#sponsors
15:10:14 <Karen> Tzviya: We looked at one way to do it with MathJax
15:10:19 <Karen> ...big logos, small logos and names
15:10:32 <Karen> ...Bill, model you describe, the AB has been talking about this
15:10:42 <Karen> ...the pay to play model with something that is open source becomes a real concern
15:10:52 <Karen> ...may be a real problem if someone is offered a seat at the table
15:10:56 <Karen> Bill: It worked for LCD
15:11:05 <tzviya> s/LCD/LCP
15:11:07 <Karen> ...but if you are interested in DRM, then you are not an open source purist
15:11:22 <Karen> ...W3C would be independent of the fundraising, but agree with you and AB we need to be careful
15:11:23 <laudrain> ack Rachel
15:11:24 <Karen> ack Rachel
15:11:43 <Karen> Rachel: I would echo objection to allow prioritization of participation based on financial contributions
15:11:55 <laudrain> +1
15:11:58 <Karen> ...it under values the contributions of those high value contributors whose orgs cannot afford to pay
15:12:09 <Karen> ...if they only have a seat for $10K then they cannot be at table
15:12:25 <Karen> ...we introduce a whole series of issues in terms of prioritization of work and EPUB check overall
15:12:32 <Karen> ...I will be donating on behalf of Macmillan
15:12:44 <Karen> ...but as future donor, I don't feel obligation to have a seat on the board
15:12:52 <Karen> ...or set aside employee on board
15:12:55 <laudrain> q+
15:13:06 <Karen> ...setting aside a level of support is fine for me; we know it's an industry contribution
15:13:07 <tzviya> +1 to Rachel's comments
15:13:08 <Karen> ack Luc
15:13:15 <Rachel> ack laudrain
15:13:16 <Karen> Luc: to insist on this simple list of contributors
15:13:29 <RickJ> q+
15:13:30 <Karen> ...to have only the name of the company is a good thing and we should not do more; I see it this way
15:13:35 <Karen> ack Rick
15:13:39 <laudrain> ack RickJ
15:13:57 <Karen> RickJ: Given that, I would like to make a suggested resolution to tier sponsorship level and provide a public page to acknowledge those levels by what they donated
15:14:01 <Karen> ...that is what we are saying
15:14:07 <Karen> BillK: I'm here; sorry to be late
15:14:11 <ivan> present+ billk
15:14:16 <Karen> Luc: I agree with you, Rick
15:14:19 <tzviya> +1 to RickJ
15:14:23 <garth> +1
15:14:33 <Karen> Luc: Garth is here, too
15:14:38 <Karen> ...We have just solved this question
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15:14:48 <Karen> ...Any more comment on the different tiers and how they will be presented?
15:14:53 <Karen> ...There is also the RFP
15:15:03 <tzviya> https://github.com/IDPF/epubcheck/wiki/Epubcheck-Development-Update-and-Maintenance-Request-for-Proposal
15:15:03 <Karen> ...Tzviya, is the RFP ok for you and the people to review it?
15:15:08 <ivan> Topic: RFP
15:15:14 <Karen> Tzviya: It has already been reviewed and transferred to the wiki
15:15:17 <Karen> ...we will send it out today
15:15:29 <Karen> ...People have offered to publicize it on their own sites
15:15:32 <Karen> ...BISG for example
15:15:37 <Karen> ...Today is the day we are announcing it
15:15:41 <Karen> Luc: Good; let's send it
15:15:47 <RickJ> q+
15:15:56 <Karen> Tzviya: Other issue is for the fundraising; we need someone to write text for the web site
15:15:57 <laudrain> ack RickJ
15:16:00 <Karen> ack RickJ
15:16:12 <Karen> RickJ: although we make it visible, suggest we start the PR on Monday
15:16:17 <Karen> ...even if we make it public today
15:16:22 <Karen> Luc: yes, that's foine
15:16:26 <ivan> present+ garth
15:16:30 <Karen> Garth: There is a list. up to $20K
15:16:38 <Karen> ...@ female...
15:16:44 <Karen> ...If I am going to hunt for some money
15:16:58 <Karen> Luc: you mean we should open the list up
15:17:05 <Karen> Garth: the levels?
15:17:11 <Karen> ...I wanted to know how solid that is
15:17:12 <tzviya> s/ @female / Liisa's email
15:17:14 <RickJ> q+
15:17:20 <garth>      EPUBcheck Sponsor Funding
15:17:21 <garth> ◦          $20K – Sponsor (or is there a better word?)
15:17:22 <garth> ◦          $10K –  Partner
15:17:24 <garth> ◦          $5K –  Supporter
15:17:25 <garth> ◦          $2K –  Friend
15:17:25 <Rachel> q+
15:17:25 <garth> ◦          donate what you want
15:17:28 <laudrain> ack Rick
15:17:30 <Karen> ack RickJ
15:17:43 <Karen> RickJ: This is a great place to start and see if people fall into those categories
15:17:50 <Rachel> q-
15:17:50 <Karen> Tzviya: There is also donate what you want
15:18:00 <Karen> Garth: I will see what I can do with Google
15:18:09 <Karen> ...and I will personally donate $3.14
15:18:13 <Karen> BillK: is that Pi?
15:18:20 <Karen> Luc: Highest tier could be $20K+
15:18:24 <laudrain> q?
15:18:25 <Karen> Garth: sounds good, thank you
15:18:44 <ivan> Topic: Tokyo workshop
15:18:45 <Karen> Luc: Bill, where are we with the Tokyo [Manga] workshop?
15:18:48 <laudrain> Topic: Tokyo W3C workshop
15:18:58 <Karen> BillM: We are anticipating to get W3M formal approval next Wednesday morning
15:19:05 <Karen> ...Mukata was out
15:19:14 <Karen> ...He had some comments and wanted to respect his input
15:19:19 <Karen> ...Important we do this next week
15:19:31 <Karen> ...Also had a lengthy discussion with Wendy Seltzer, head of strategy
15:19:42 <Karen> ...she oversees workshops; she is supportive and wants to see if move forward
15:19:44 <BillM> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wExl8Cxh8kMhzZu5UrWLhspMU2ZmGA6Wz3pmjtWQ5eY/edit#heading=h.6pcetlq699m3
15:19:46 <Karen> ...Text for call for proposal
15:19:56 <Karen> ...You were previously copied and commented
15:20:06 <Karen> ...It is possible to volunteer to PC even if you do not plan to travel
15:20:11 <Karen> ...You can help craft program
15:20:17 <Karen> ...Up to co-chairs to figure out who should be on PC
15:20:24 <Karen> ...and does not matter if you cannot attend or not
15:20:32 <Karen> ...Tzviya, for example, you can consider volunteering
15:20:40 <Karen> ...Expect a couple more committee members next week
15:20:51 <Karen> ...Expect CfP to go out end of next week or early week of 25 June
15:21:04 <Karen> ...then we will promote on W3C site and Japan [Keio] will promote as well
15:21:13 <Karen> ...there is also going to be a half-day symposium
15:21:21 <Karen> ...targeted at Japanese pub industry folks
15:21:28 <Karen> ...more informational, what is going on in the web platform
15:21:38 <Karen> ...that will primarily be in Japanese; will be translated
15:21:45 <Karen> ...Symposium targeted for Japanese audience
15:21:56 <Karen> ...and planning Japanese layout and CSS stuff that Makoto is organizing
15:22:04 <Rachel> q+ for outstanding issue on epubcheck
15:22:12 <Karen> ...and lastly going to be an executive breakfast with heads of Japanese publishing companies, likely the first day
15:22:12 <laudrain> q?
15:22:21 <Karen> ...So a packed series of activities to increase the impact of this workshop
15:22:27 <Karen> ...On way to W3C management approval
15:22:41 <Karen> ...we are poised to transfer from Google doc to the Workshop format
15:23:02 <Karen> ...Please get your comments into the Google doc now; after that I will transfer into HTML skeleton
15:23:16 <Karen> Luc: what about @ to be a member of committee from EDRLab?
15:23:28 <Karen> BillK: Laurent is ok and I will extend an invitation to her shortly
15:23:34 <Karen> ...assume our diversity level will increase
15:23:38 <Karen> Luc: I see Rachl
15:23:40 <Karen> ack Rachel
15:23:40 <Zakim> Rachel, you wanted to discuss outstanding issue on epubcheck
15:23:43 <Bill_Kasdorf> s/BillK/BillM
15:23:51 <Karen> Rachel: If there are questions about @ we should ask first
15:23:55 <Karen> BillK: not on this topic
15:24:01 <Karen> ...any other questions on this topic?
15:24:06 <Bill_Kasdorf> s/BillK/BillM
15:24:11 <Karen> ...if you have questions, please consider volunteering for PC
15:24:12 <Karen> ...thank you
15:24:24 <Karen> Luc: for next PBG call on Tuesday, you will do a call for PC
15:24:48 <Rachel> q+ for outstanding issue on epubcheck
15:24:55 <Karen> BillM: there seems to be some debate about how many people are on PC, meet diversity goals, and respect wishes of co-chairs
15:25:01 <Karen> ...within 24 hours of W3M go-ahead
15:25:11 <Karen> ...certainly we can informally ask for more PC volunteers as long as you are ok
15:25:15 <Karen> Luc: We have 12-13 members
15:25:23 <Karen> ...if we have 1-2 women, it would be a large PC
15:25:29 <Karen> ...we should close it soon and begin to work
15:25:42 <Karen> BillM: we can also kick off some people...[laughs]
15:25:48 <Karen> Luc: Not what I said! :)
15:25:59 <Karen> ...we should finish and publish start of the week after [25 June]
15:26:15 <Karen> ...Ok, Bill, do you think you will make some publicity about the other three events?
15:26:20 <Karen> BillM: the symposium for sure
15:26:32 <Karen> ...Japan Electronic Publishing Association and maybe one or two other groups will sponsor
15:26:49 <Karen> ...that will be publicly advertised and will have larger capacity than workshop which is about 90 people
15:26:55 <Karen> ...want SC to know about these other activities
15:27:12 <Karen> ...don't think other events will be publicized; not sure so will ask Makoto
15:27:18 <Karen> Luc: I will be at the symposium for sure
15:27:21 <Karen> ...others it depends
15:27:29 <Karen> ...I will discuss those subjects with Makoto
15:27:34 <laudrain> q?
15:27:37 <Karen> ...and discuss European standards items
15:27:41 <Karen> ack Rachel
15:27:41 <Zakim> Rachel, you wanted to discuss outstanding issue on epubcheck
15:27:55 <Karen> Rachel: I have two comments relevant to this conversation, the other relevant to EPUB Check conversation
15:28:08 <Karen> ...It does make me mildly uncomfortable that we need to find women and 1-2 are ok
15:28:15 <Karen> ...surely there is a better way to handle this
15:28:21 <Karen> ...and EPUB Check we need copy for the web site
15:28:30 <Karen> ...Tzviya brought this up a couple of times
15:28:31 <laudrain> apologize
15:28:40 <Karen> ...and we need to address it, get it committed to so we can push it forward
15:28:51 <Karen> Tzviya: Does anyone have experience writing fundraising copy?
15:28:55 <BillM> q+
15:29:03 <Karen> Luc: Bill?
15:29:13 <Karen> BillM: I am going to be busy getting the Tokyo workshop publicized
15:29:21 <Karen> ...unless timing can sequence after the Tokyo workshop
15:29:28 <Karen> ...it needs to sequence itself
15:29:34 <Karen> ...Rachel, I do want to respond
15:29:43 <Karen> ...It was Tzviya who increased us to improve diversity
15:29:46 <Karen> ...Tell us a better way
15:29:50 <Karen> ...we can do whatever makes sense
15:30:09 <Karen> Rachel: There are so many women who are active in this field
15:30:23 <Karen> ...seems strange that we look for women after we already have 12 men participating
15:30:31 <Karen> BillM: committed is too strong; suggestions were made
15:30:35 <tzviya> q+
15:30:35 <Karen> ...Make other suggestions
15:30:38 <Karen> ...give us some counsel
15:30:42 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
15:30:42 <Karen> q+
15:30:45 <laudrain> ack BilM
15:30:54 <Rachel> ack BillM
15:30:57 <Karen> ...want to make sure we are doing it constructively
15:30:59 <Karen> ack Tzviya
15:31:08 <ivan> ack BillM
15:31:12 <Karen> Tzviya: The objectionable phrase was "we need to find 1-2 women"
15:31:16 <Karen> BillM: Correct
15:31:36 <Karen> ...I think you suggested we make sure we include women for the remaining slots
15:31:43 <Karen> ...sorry if I did not do that respectfully
15:31:46 <garth> q?
15:31:53 <ivan> ack Bill_Kasdorf
15:31:53 <garth> ack Bill_Kasdorf
15:32:08 <Karen> ack BillK
15:32:14 <Karen> BillK: I have recruited volunteers
15:32:23 <Karen> ...it is necessary to actually recruit or draft volunteers
15:32:31 <Karen> ...the process has to be pro-active from the get-go
15:32:38 <Karen> ...that is the best way to avoid this male dominated body
15:32:44 <Karen> ack Karen
15:33:23 <tzviya> or contact the https://www.w3.org/community/w3c-women/
15:33:45 <BillM> +1 I would happy to invite Junko
15:33:55 <Karen> Junko Kamata, President and CEO of Voyager Japan
15:33:55 <BillM> Kamata-san is not super technical so it's up to co-chairs if they are OK with that
15:34:23 <Karen> Luc: Thank you, Bill to invite Junko Kamata
15:34:27 <Karen> ...anything more on this topic?
15:34:36 <Karen> Luc: I see you had a question on EPUB Check?
15:34:45 <laudrain> q?
15:34:47 <Karen> Rachel: yes, someone to write copy for EPUB CHeck
15:34:52 <Karen> Luc: How do we address this question?
15:34:56 <Karen> q+
15:35:12 <ivan> ack Karen
15:35:19 <Karen> ack Karen
15:35:35 <Karen> Karen: BillM, did you approach the W3C Comm team for EPUB Check?
15:35:43 <Karen> BillM: Goal is to make it an outreach of PBG
15:35:49 <Karen> ...and not make it a request of W3C itself
15:36:00 <tzviya> q+
15:36:06 <Karen> ...we can certainly use W3C web page area and blog, but we don't want it to be a W3C press release and blog
15:36:17 <Karen> ...main concern is it's not to be a W3C driven effort
15:36:19 <ivan> ack tzviya
15:36:25 <Karen> Tzviya: Karen, I was in touch with Ralph about this
15:36:42 <Karen> ...Jeff said that once we have a draft, he will put us in touch with Veronica, Comm team, to put on site
15:36:54 <Karen> ...but we need to put something together first
15:37:03 <Karen> ...in our RFP we said we would work on it in Sept.
15:37:12 <Karen> ...If we want to work on it for BillM to write this for ten days
15:37:22 <BillM> maybe someone else could draft something roughly and I could volunteeer to be editor?
15:37:23 <Karen> ...and we are confident we can meet our goals
15:37:33 <BillM> and to get it on website / blog etc
15:37:36 <Karen> ...Since Bill has experience writing something like this, maybe we target first week of July
15:37:40 <RickJ> q+
15:38:00 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
15:38:14 <Bill_Kasdorf> q-
15:38:19 <Karen> ack RickJ: it would be good to say we have raised X in the publicity
15:38:21 <Karen> Luc: good idea
15:38:54 <Karen> Luc: RFP will be sent soon
15:39:00 <Karen> ...and fundraising soon, too
15:39:04 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
15:39:08 <Karen> ...not sure how people will react
15:39:22 <ivan> ack RickJ
15:39:27 <ivan> ack Bill_Kasdorf
15:39:31 <Karen> ack BillK
15:39:36 <Karen> BillK: we do tend to be US centric
15:39:45 <Karen> ...when we are talking about this fund-raising we need to think internationally
15:39:48 <laudrain> q+
15:39:54 <Karen> ...there are many int'l companies that depend upon EPUB Check
15:39:57 <Karen> ...one pet peeve
15:40:09 <Karen> ...is that putting something up on web site is not sufficient, you have to actively approach people
15:40:19 <Karen> ...it will succeed if we have emissaries to XYZ
15:40:22 <Karen> Luc: yes, you are right
15:40:38 <Karen> ...I think it is international and we have to push info to newsletters to Europe and Japan and Korea and elsewhere
15:40:48 <Karen> ...this is one of items of EPUB Roadmap TF
15:40:50 <ivan> q+
15:41:08 <ivan> ack laudrain
15:41:12 <Karen> ...we should maintain at least some kind of lists of news channels that are good to push information and news and that kind of solicitation all over the world
15:41:28 <Karen> ...you have also seen that I have sent an invitation to a next call for the EPUB Roadmap TF
15:41:35 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
15:41:52 <Karen> ...and one of the ideas is to publish anywhere in any language when we are ready with EPUB2->EPUB3 white paper, EPUB Check
15:42:05 <Karen> ...should we set up a wiki or Google doc about all those newsletters and channels?
15:42:06 <Karen> +1
15:42:09 <tzviya> +1
15:42:12 <ivan> +1
15:42:25 <Karen> BillK: sorry to jump the queue
15:42:28 <laudrain> q?
15:42:36 <Karen> ...I have not been able to address this yet on external comms TF
15:42:45 <Karen> ...that TF has already drawn up a list
15:42:54 <Karen> ...and coordination on roadmap is on our list
15:42:59 <Karen> ...and the fundraising is a better prioritiy
15:43:09 <ivan> ack Bill_Kasdorf
15:43:15 <Karen> ...we have a good group that have contacts in many parts of the world
15:43:23 <Karen> Luc: so you will set up wiki with this list?
15:43:28 <ivan> -> https://github.com/w3c/publ-bg/wiki can be used for wiki
15:43:35 <Karen> ...would you mind to set up the wiki with the list you mentioned?
15:43:51 <Karen> BillK: I need to get back to that group to make sure the list is complete and can be made public; yes, I will do as soon as I can
15:43:58 <Karen> Luc: there is a link, Ivan, to put this
15:44:11 <Karen> ...we have all access to add anything we can gather in the different Task Forces
15:44:14 <Karen> ...ivan, you can do that?
15:44:16 <Karen> ack Ivan
15:44:17 <laudrain> q?
15:44:20 <Karen> Ivan: yes, I will have to check
15:44:26 <Karen> ...I think the answer is yes
15:44:31 <Karen> ...but not why I was on the call
15:44:37 <Karen> ...will make a note to check
15:44:50 <Karen> Ivan: about the targets for sponsors, we targeted on publishers
15:45:02 <Karen> ...others are also interested in having EPUB Check properly done
15:45:10 <Karen> ...Google is one of those and Garth will do what he can
15:45:21 <laudrain> q?
15:45:22 <Karen> ...but contacting the Kobos, Apples, and Amazons would be interesting
15:45:31 <Karen> Rachel: and maybe a company called Vital Source?
15:45:40 <Karen> RickJ: that's ok [laughs]
15:45:51 <Karen> Ivan: let's be optimistic
15:46:05 <Karen> Luc: Not sure if this list is sufficient to contact the list of those named
15:46:12 <Karen> ...we may know direct channels
15:46:17 <Karen> ...ok, more on this topic?
15:46:30 <Karen> ...We will set up a wiki with a list of all the newsletters and channels
15:46:38 <ivan> q+
15:46:56 <Karen> ...I already spoke about the next call for the EPUB Roadmap; we have an offer to translate into Portuguese and to publicize it in Brazil
15:47:10 <Karen> ...when all the members of the BG relay information in other languages, that is positive
15:47:16 <Karen> Ivan: I just checked
15:47:28 <Karen> ...All members of SC have the right to do anything with that repository, including writing on the wki page
15:47:31 <Karen> Luc: good news
15:47:34 <Karen> ...we can maintain this page
15:47:42 <Karen> Ivan: you can change the whole repository
15:47:56 <Karen> Luc: for this wiki with list of channels, we should have a link to the newsletter, website
15:48:00 <Karen> ...and describe the langue
15:48:03 <Karen> s/language
15:48:07 <Karen> ...and add a contact name and email
15:48:14 <Karen> ...or just email if we don't know contact name
15:48:20 <Karen> ...can you think of other things?
15:48:24 <Karen> ...let's start with that
15:48:31 <Karen> ...Ok, any other business for today?
15:48:36 <laudrain> q?
15:48:42 <Karen> Garth: Have a good weekend, folks
15:48:45 <Karen> Luc: Do I see Ivan?
15:48:47 <Karen> ack Ivan
15:48:51 <BillM> +1
15:48:55 <Karen> Luc: Thank you everybody
15:49:01 <tzviya> i will not be there on tuesday either
15:49:04 <Karen> ...I will not be there next Tuesday
15:49:15 <Bill_Kasdorf> I won't be on the call Tuesday either
15:49:16 <Karen> ...Would like to ask Rick to prepare agenda for next week's BG call?
15:49:32 <BillM> thanks Rick LMK if I can help
15:49:55 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:49:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/06/15-pbgsc-minutes.html ivan