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14:27:29 <addison> zakim, bye
14:27:29 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been addison, David, r12a, JcK, Katy, Fuqiao
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14:27:49 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:27:52 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:27:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:27:55 <trackbot> Date: 31 May 2018
14:28:01 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:28:04 <addison> ScribeNick: addison
14:28:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:28:40 <addison> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2018May/0010.html
14:28:44 <addison> agenda+ Agenda
14:28:49 <addison> agenda+ Action Items
14:28:54 <addison> agenda+ Info Share
14:28:58 <addison> agenda+ Radar
14:29:05 <addison> agenda+ HTML 5.3 review
14:29:09 <addison> agenda+ Charmod-Norm
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15:01:51 <stpeter> present+
15:02:06 <addison> present+
15:02:17 <addison> zakim, who is here?
15:02:17 <Zakim> Present: stpeter, addison
15:02:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see Katy, David, Najib, xfq, Zakim, RRSAgent, addison, r12a, stpeter, Bert, koji, sangwhan, bigbluehat, trackbot
15:02:23 <r12a> present+
15:02:23 <addison> present+ Katy
15:02:35 <addison> present+ David
15:02:36 <David> present+
15:03:46 <Bert> present+
15:04:01 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:04:01 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from addison]
15:04:03 <addison> agenda?
15:04:09 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
15:04:09 <Zakim> Present: stpeter, addison, r12a, Katy, David, Bert
15:04:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see Katy, David, Najib, xfq, Zakim, RRSAgent, addison, r12a, stpeter, Bert, koji, sangwhan, bigbluehat, trackbot
15:04:50 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:04:50 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison]
15:05:02 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:05:34 <addison> action-711?
15:05:34 <trackbot> action-711 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up on pointer spec to see if they requested a review -- due 2018-05-17 -- OPEN
15:05:34 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/711
15:05:34 <xfq> present+ Fuqiao
15:05:48 <addison> action-712?
15:05:48 <trackbot> action-712 -- Addison Phillips to Ping webvtt on our issues 4 and 12 since they have a cr transition with these open -- due 2018-05-17 -- OPEN
15:05:48 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/712
15:06:17 <addison> close action-712
15:06:18 <trackbot> Closed action-712.
15:06:31 <addison> action-716?
15:06:31 <trackbot> action-716 -- Addison Phillips to Update whatwg issue 3636 to say we discussed and would like to proceed -- due 2018-05-17 -- OPEN
15:06:31 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/716
15:06:40 <addison> close action-716
15:06:40 <trackbot> Closed action-716.
15:06:50 <addison> action-717?
15:06:50 <trackbot> action-717 -- Addison Phillips to Update microdata issue 21 saying we don't object -- due 2018-05-17 -- OPEN
15:06:50 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/717
15:06:58 <addison> close action-717
15:06:58 <trackbot> Closed action-717.
15:07:29 <addison> action-719?
15:07:29 <trackbot> action-719 -- Addison Phillips to Respond to gamepad that we reviewed with no issues -- due 2018-05-31 -- OPEN
15:07:29 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/719
15:07:40 <addison> close action-719
15:07:40 <trackbot> Closed action-719.
15:08:24 <addison> action-720?
15:08:24 <trackbot> action-720 -- Addison Phillips to Write to html and tell them we're not quite done with the review of 5.3 -- due 2018-05-31 -- OPEN
15:08:24 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/720
15:08:29 <addison> close action-720
15:08:29 <trackbot> Closed action-720.
15:09:12 <addison> action-721?
15:09:13 <trackbot> action-721 -- Katy Mawhood to Look into font subsetting for charmod-norm -- due 2018-05-31 -- OPEN
15:09:13 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/721
15:12:14 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:12:14 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from addison]
15:12:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:12:45 <addison> peter: andrew sullivan sent me something from thailand
15:12:55 <addison> ... promoting use of thai script email addresses
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15:13:07 <addison> ... interested in picture of w3c support etc.
15:13:11 <addison> ... unclear on details
15:13:17 <addison> ... he's unavail as am I
15:13:19 <r12a> q+
15:13:26 <addison> ... anyone willing to represent?
15:13:33 <addison> ack r12a
15:13:47 <addison> richard: 4th time contacted about this by 4 diff groups
15:13:53 <addison> ... want someone from w3c
15:14:00 <addison> ... stand up and say "it's fixed, go use"
15:14:05 <addison> ... problem is not fixed
15:14:12 <addison> ... fixed in w3c spec but not whatwg spec
15:15:03 <JcK> present+ JcK
15:15:22 <addison> addison: only html
15:26:25 <addison> action: addison: work with Peter and JcK on a response relative to thai EAI request
15:26:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-722 - Work with peter and jck on a response relative to thai eai request [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-06-07].
15:27:52 <addison> jck: trying to get ietf unstuck on i18n topics
15:27:58 <addison> ... posted note on ietf@
15:28:04 <addison> ... should there be a BOF in montreal
15:28:14 <addison> ... procedurally deal with i18n
15:28:28 <addison> ... no new news yet
15:28:54 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:28:54 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Radar" taken up [from addison]
15:28:55 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
15:30:40 <addison> action: addison: follow up on our UTR53 comments
15:30:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-723 - Follow up on our utr53 comments [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-06-07].
15:31:14 <addison> action: addison: review "awaiting comment resolution" items and follow up
15:31:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-724 - Review "awaiting comment resolution" items and follow up [on Addison Phillips - due 2018-06-07].
15:31:31 <addison> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
15:31:59 <addison> richard: jlreq idea catching
15:32:11 <addison> ... indic getting going
15:32:25 <addison> ... SEA (needs to be on list)
15:32:57 <addison> ... whatwg has restructures encoding tests
15:33:05 <addison> ... look different than our test suite
15:33:13 <addison> s/restructures/restructured/
15:33:43 <addison> richard: some progress thanks to fuqiao replacing approx 500 files with 20 in web tests
15:34:12 <addison> agenda?
15:34:22 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 5
15:34:22 <Zakim> agendum 5. "HTML 5.3 review" taken up [from addison]
15:34:44 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Ahtml
15:36:19 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/573
15:41:15 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/1092
15:42:54 <addison> action: richard: raise profile of whatwg thread on autocomplete/autocapitalize
15:42:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-725 - Raise profile of whatwg thread on autocomplete/autocapitalize [on Richard Ishida - due 2018-06-07].
15:43:15 <r12a> https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/3273
15:46:42 <r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/armenian/#direction
15:47:02 <addison> file three issues: wording, hint to input, foot in door
15:47:32 <addison> richard: changes to encoding
15:47:46 <addison> ... email to member just before mtg
15:48:00 <addison> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2018May/0012.html
15:58:45 <r12a> my initial recommendations:
15:58:54 <r12a> - say for newly-created documents everywhere that  utf-8 is mandated, to avoid confusion around legacy pages
15:58:54 <r12a> - make sure it’s clear that documents must be encoded in utf-8, rather than simply that the charset value is utf-8, for authors
15:58:54 <r12a> - tighten up our articles about choosing and declaring encoding in HTML - add charset info, and need to use utf-8 for script pages
15:58:56 <r12a> - continue to include information about acceptable legacy encodings, and requirements for their labelling in some obscure section
16:01:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:02:26 <addison> action: richard: file utf-8 issue on html53
16:02:34 <trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to Tracker.  Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what happened.
16:03:27 <addison> Topic: AOB?
16:04:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:18:28 <r12a> s/ (needs to be on list)/ making good progress/
16:18:35 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:18:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html r12a
16:19:07 <r12a> s/with 20/with 20-ish/
16:22:56 <r12a> s/<trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to Tracker. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what happened.//
16:23:03 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:23:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html r12a
16:23:28 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes v2
16:23:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html r12a
16:24:19 <r12a> s|<trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to Tracker. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what happened.||
16:24:22 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes v2
16:24:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html r12a
16:25:56 <r12a> s/Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to Tracker. Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what happened./
16:25:59 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes v2
16:25:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/05/31-i18n-minutes.html r12a
16:46:24 <addison> zakim, bye
16:46:25 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been stpeter, addison, r12a, Katy, David, Bert, Fuqiao, JcK
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