20:48:14 RRSAgent has joined #dxwg 20:48:14 logging to https://www.w3.org/2018/03/06-dxwg-irc 20:48:16 RRSAgent, make logs public 20:48:16 Zakim has joined #dxwg 20:48:18 Meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference 20:48:18 Date: 06 March 2018 20:48:30 rrsagent, make logs public 20:53:05 alejandra has joined #dxwg 20:54:39 roba has joined #dxwg 20:54:51 present+ 21:00:09 NicholasCar has joined #dxwg 21:00:16 present+ 21:01:02 PWinstanley has joined #dxwg 21:01:13 present+ 21:01:32 SimonCox has joined #dxwg 21:05:00 present+ 21:05:07 present+ 21:05:15 DaveBrowning has joined #dxwg 21:05:35 present+ 21:06:52 scribenick: NicholasCar 21:07:05 chair: kcoyle 21:07:13 chair: kcoyle 21:07:34 Present+ 21:07:36 TOPIC: approve minutes of previous meeting 21:07:48 https://www.w3.org/2018/02/27-dxwg-minutes 21:08:04 +1 21:08:09 +1 21:08:13 I have a tweaked version of UC for discussion https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/145 21:08:15 0 (wasn't present) 21:08:34 +1 21:08:47 regrets: Makx, Ixchel 21:08:51 RESOLVED: accept minutes of previous meeting 21:08:51 Jaroslav_Pullmann has joined #dxwg 21:09:22 TOPIC: open action items 21:09:30 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open 21:09:36 present+ 21:09:59 kcoyle has marked DCAT action items as such 21:10:14 antoine has joined #dxwg 21:11:19 AndreaPerego has joined #dxwg 21:11:29 TOPIC: action items 81 - 86 21:11:30 present+ antoine 21:11:30 present+ AndreaPerego 21:12:08 roba will post information about Action Item 82 21:13:24 TOPIC: this plenary v. DCAT WG and other WGs 21:13:24 present+ 21:14:15 kcoyle: would it be best to have fewer plenary meetings to allow other people meeting in other groups more time? Should we have a less frequenet regular schedule 21:14:17 q+ 21:14:18 +1 for every 2 weeks 21:14:20 +1 21:14:24 sounds good 21:14:28 +1 for every 2 weeks 21:14:29 q? 21:14:31 +1 for regular schedule, less often 21:14:39 +1 for every two weeks 21:14:57 * logistica arythmica 21:15:01 +1 for every two weeks 21:15:06 +1 for every 2 weeks 21:15:14 q- 21:15:28 q+ 21:15:36 ack PWinstanley 21:16:15 subgroup or via chair? 21:16:23 PWinstanley: subgroups should be able to call a plenary meeting 21:16:40 +1, so we should keep this timeslot "booked" in case we may need to have additional, ad-hoc, meetings, in case a decision from the plenary is needed 21:16:52 kcoyle: can we resolve things over mail, not just plenary 21:16:57 q 21:17:01 q+ 21:17:07 ack roba 21:17:17 +q 21:18:10 ack alejandra 21:18:42 roba: out-of-sync plenary meetings to be coordinated via the chair 21:19:37 alejandra: please advertise all meetings (subgroups) through the mailing list 21:19:57 https://www.w3.org/2018/02/20-dxwg-minutes 21:20:13 * sorry ignore that 21:20:28 kcoyle: W3C rules are that meeting agenda are presented 24hrs before meeting 21:20:41 q 21:20:44 +1 21:20:54 +1 21:20:54 (q+ rob) 21:21:00 agenda + meeting minutes please 21:21:01 q+ 21:21:07 ack roba 21:21:11 https://www.w3.org/2018/Process-20180201/#GeneralMeetings 21:21:55 :) 21:22:07 roba: there was an issue with the last profile meeting minutes- they have been generated incorrectly, will investigate 21:22:12 Are you saying that the minutes listed here: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings ? 21:22:18 rhiaro has joined #dxwg 21:22:19 I don't see them 21:23:07 ACTION: roba to investigate profile meeting minutes generation issue due 2018-03-14 21:23:08 Created ACTION-88 - Investigate profile meeting minutes generation issue due 2018-03-14 [on Rob Atkinson - due 2018-03-13]. 21:23:35 @roba, in case you still have the minutes log, they could be posted to the mailing list, and then pointed to from the relevant meeting page in the wiki. 21:24:13 TOPIC: daylight savings time. this confuses plenary schedule changes 21:24:23 I set up this poll for the DCAT sub-group https://doodle.com/poll/cvuzxnqan8s8utbc#table 21:24:37 kcoyle: SimonCox has a proposal for daylight savings time changes 21:25:24 SimonCox: we need to change times due to a 2 hours difference shift between northern and southern hemisphere 21:25:34 ...in 4 weeks time 21:26:07 q+ 21:27:14 SimonCox: seems impossible to proposa a convenient time for Europe, Australia & USA 21:29:33 q? 21:29:38 SimonCox: no American participants in DCAT group thus simpler to schedule but must be careful not to exclude people from the Americas 21:29:40 ack PWinstanley 21:30:30 SimonCox: Doodle polls represent options in people's local times 21:31:10 +q 21:31:43 ack alejandra 21:33:28 25 March I think is start 21:36:12 TOPIC: Use Cases and Requirements 21:36:15 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/145 21:36:24 roba: has a proposed new Use Case 21:38:00 q+ 21:38:20 Does this relate to UCRs concerning service- / API-based data access? 21:38:26 ack Jaroslav_Pullmann 21:41:10 q+ 21:41:17 ack AndreaPerego 21:42:15 discussion revolves around previous work in DCAT-AP and the interplay between access URLs and services and Distributions 21:44:28 q+ 21:44:42 ack NicholasCar 21:44:59 The issue may relate to (distinguishing) a packaged Distribution: https://www.w3.org/TR/dcat-ucr/#ID1 ? 21:45:30 q+ 21:45:46 ack roba 21:48:06 s/discussion revolves around previous work in DCAT-AP and the interplay between access URLs and services and Distributions/AndreaPerego: In DCAT-AP you can specify that a distribution is of dct:type "service". In this case, using dcat:accessURL means that your pointing to the general service interface. Could this be an option?/ 21:48:07 q+ 21:48:22 ack antoine 21:48:39 http://linkeddatafragments.org/concept/ 21:49:33 Can this work also with non-RDF data? 21:49:57 yes 21:50:08 PROPOSED: accept use case 145 (with relaxing of specifics as Rob has described) 21:50:22 +1 21:50:27 0 21:50:37 (the linked data fragments may be RDF specific though) 21:50:44 +1 21:50:52 +1 21:51:00 +1 21:51:02 +1 21:51:03 0, propose to elaborate a bit more (e.g. relations to othe requierements) 21:51:05 +1 21:51:11 0 but probably tending towards +1 if I think a bit more ;-) 21:51:47 +1 to Jaroslav_Pullmann's point - linking to related UCRs 21:52:15 RESOLVED: accept proposed UC 145, with revisions 21:52:18 ACTION: roba to refine the Use Case with better integration 21:52:19 Created ACTION-89 - Refine the use case with better integration [on Rob Atkinson - due 2018-03-13]. 21:52:19 q+ 21:52:35 ack roba 21:54:19 SomonCox: explains the current practice around creating Issues in GitHub 21:54:26 +q 21:54:32 s/SomonCox/Simoncox/ 21:54:43 s/Simoncox/SimonCox/ 21:55:15 SimonCox: the only issue tag that needs special treatment is "Requirement" 21:55:16 ack alejandra 21:55:20 OK - update UCR, update issue title and tag with requirement... 21:56:39 i think morph to a requirement is fine, editing into UCR with related UC and links to ldfragments is the process.. 21:57:01 q+ 21:57:04 There was a response to UCR WD comment request a week ago, should we discuss shortly? 21:57:08 ack Jaroslav_Pullmann 21:57:12 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2018Feb/0001.html 21:58:53 TOPIC: responses to our UCR document 21:59:02 I suggested that it might be useful to separate issues between use case and requirements, to allow to link clearly to other requirements 21:59:05 q+ 21:59:10 https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/roba-profile/dcat/rdf/profile.ttl 21:59:17 ack roba 21:59:35 ACTION: Jaroslav_Pullmann to respond to ISO 15926 commentators on UCR 21:59:43 Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to Tracker. Please mail with details about what happened. 22:00:32 ACTION: kcoyle to arrange poll for new plenary time 22:00:33 rrsagent, generate minutes v2 22:00:33 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/03/06-dxwg-minutes.html kcoyle 22:00:34 Created ACTION-91 - Arrange poll for new plenary time [on Karen Coyle - due 2018-03-13]. 22:00:41 Thanks, and bye! 22:00:51 bye! 22:00:53 present- 22:01:29 regrets+ Annette 22:02:11 agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2018.03.06 22:02:20 RRSAgent, draft minutes v2 22:02:20 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2018/03/06-dxwg-minutes.html AndreaPerego 22:02:42 present-