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20:02:16 <alejandra> hello all - who is supposed to start the webex meeting?
20:02:21 <alejandra> present+
20:02:42 <alejandra> never mind, I am joining...
20:03:10 <SimonCox> See resources listed here https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/DCAT_Vocabulary_team_working_space
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20:03:41 <arminhaller> present+
20:03:51 <DaveBrowning> present+
20:04:22 <SimonCox> See draft https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/dcat/
20:05:15 <alejandra> stijngoedertier_AIV: from the Flemish Information entity
20:05:33 <alejandra> stijngoedertier_AIV: also attended some of the plenary meetings
20:05:57 <SimonCox> scribe: alejandra
20:06:46 <SimonCox> chair: SimonCox
20:06:56 <SimonCox> scribenick: alejandra
20:07:47 <alejandra> SimonCox: volunteered to coordinate this group, mainly focusing on process and not content
20:08:10 <alejandra> ... in support of that, I've pulled together the beginnings of a wiki page with a list of resources
20:08:23 <alejandra> ... https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/DCAT_Vocabulary_team_working_space
20:08:31 <alejandra> ... original DCAT 1.0 recommendation
20:08:49 <alejandra> ... alejandra and myself copied across that material into a new respec document
20:08:57 <alejandra> ... available at: https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/dcat/
20:09:14 <alejandra> ... so far, there have been no changes to version 1.0
20:09:32 <alejandra> ... only content that has changed relative to version 1 is the paragraph on 'motivation for change'
20:09:41 <alejandra> ... and addition of a few more rdf prefixes
20:09:58 <alejandra> ... the rest has been copied verbatim across as indicated in the notes
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20:10:38 <alejandra> ... our goal is to make modifications on the DCAT vocabulary triggered by the UCRs
20:10:42 <riccardoAlbertoni_> present+
20:10:56 <stijngoedertier_AIV> present+
20:11:04 <alejandra> ... link to the UCR document: https://www.w3.org/TR/dcat-ucr/#Tags
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20:11:48 <alejandra> ... DCAT RDF
20:11:51 <alejandra> at https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/tree/gh-pages/dcat/rdf
20:12:58 <alejandra> ... Nick present in webex
20:13:05 <alejandra> ... recently rejoined CSIRO
20:13:41 <alejandra> ... when we discussed in plenary, 4 people put their hands up to be editors of the document
20:14:05 <alejandra> ... that's Peter W, Dave B, Alejandra and myself
20:14:12 <alejandra> ... this is the kick-off meeting for this activity
20:14:22 <alejandra> ... and gives us a chance to decide the mode of operation
20:14:36 <alejandra> ... deliverable due on Spring 2018 (northen hemisphere)
20:14:51 <alejandra> ... fairly tight deadline to work on the draft
20:15:15 <alejandra> ... by no means, it should not be a final product (due on other 18 months) but trigger responses from the community
20:15:28 <alejandra> ... allow the broader community to provide feedback
20:16:08 <alejandra> ... as the documents are open and there will be a call for comments
20:16:20 <Makx> present+ Makx
20:16:24 <alejandra> ... main thing that is supposed to trigger the changes/modifications/updates to the document are the requirements
20:16:30 <alejandra> ... that have been extracted from the use cases
20:16:55 <alejandra> ... if you've followed the correspondence and the meetings, you'll know that we've decided to follow github
20:17:04 <alejandra> ... and its use its issue tracker
20:17:20 <alejandra> ... I've proposed to include the requirements in the tracker
20:17:28 <SimonCox> UCR Requirements https://www.w3.org/TR/dcat-ucr/#Requirements
20:17:48 <alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues
20:17:48 <SimonCox> Github issues https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues
20:19:18 <alejandra> SimonCox: requirement 1 added manually: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/50
20:19:30 <alejandra> ... they can be tagged (in this case inherited from the use case)
20:20:44 <alejandra> ... having the requirements as issues, we can keep track and do our work
20:20:56 <arminhaller> q+
20:20:57 <alejandra> q+
20:21:33 <alejandra> ... open the floor for comments about this process
20:21:40 <alejandra> ... and what are your expectations
20:21:49 <SimonCox> ack: arminhaller
20:22:01 <SimonCox> ack arminhaller
20:22:22 <SimonCox> ack alejandra
20:22:22 <alejandra> arminhaller: question to clarify - do you plan to use github and not the w3c issue tracker
20:22:27 <alejandra> SimonCox: yes, that's the proposal
20:23:29 <SimonCox> alejandra: agrees with use of GitHub for issues
20:23:41 <SimonCox> ... will allow mods to be tied to issues formally
20:24:02 <SimonCox> ... Jaroslav is investigating automation of moving reqs to github issues
20:24:14 <SimonCox> ... by end of week
20:24:31 <SimonCox> ... has additional issues to add
20:24:59 <SimonCox> ... also existing extensions to DCAT which mostly triggered UCs
20:25:45 <alejandra> SimonCox: ok about the additions
20:26:00 <alejandra> ... let's reserve the tag 'requirement' for those in the UCR
20:26:10 <alejandra> ... under the process we have a duty to address all the requirements
20:26:25 <alejandra> ... either to satisfy them or to indicate that we cannot satisfy them
20:26:41 <alejandra> ... other issues can be introduced as long as we can track them
20:27:18 <alejandra> q+
20:27:27 <SimonCox> ack alejandra
20:28:08 <SimonCox> alejandra: mods to document should be done through branching and PRs
20:28:34 <alejandra> this is the Github etiquette: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/GitHub_etiquette
20:29:06 <alejandra> SimonCox: the document is the primary artefact that we'll be delivering
20:29:29 <alejandra> ... everybody is welcome to make modifications to the document following the Github etiquette
20:29:34 <alejandra> ... work on a branch
20:29:48 <alejandra> ... you can push the branch to the dxwg github repository
20:30:01 <alejandra> ... the only people that can merge proposals into the master are the editors
20:30:11 <alejandra> ... so you should issue a Pull Request
20:30:42 <alejandra> ... if the editors are making edits, they will follow the same process and other editor needs to merge the Pull Request
20:31:25 <alejandra> ... this does require that you learn git/github to be able to deal with this process
20:32:23 <alejandra> q+
20:32:30 <SimonCox> ack alejandra
20:32:43 <DaveBrowning> +1 for the process
20:32:46 <riccardoAlbertoni_> +1 to the described github etiquette described
20:33:21 <DaveBrowning> .. and the etiquette
20:33:44 <SimonCox> alejandra: editors will create extra issues from discussion on mailing list, when necessary
20:34:03 <SimonCox> ... also people external to project may work on forks
20:35:24 <alejandra> PROPOSED: agree on the process and github etiquette described above
20:35:26 <alejandra> +1
20:35:30 <SimonCox> +1
20:35:31 <PWinstanley> +1
20:35:32 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:35:34 <arminhaller> +1
20:35:36 <stijngoedertier_AIV> +1
20:35:41 <Makx> +1 but don't understand it yet
20:36:07 <alejandra> +1 from Nick on the phone
20:36:10 <SimonCox> also NickCar +1
20:36:16 <riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
20:36:18 <alejandra> RESOLVED: agreement on the process and github etiquette
20:36:55 <alejandra> SimonCox: in terms of getting some work done, we are a little bit held up as the requirements don't appear yet as github issues
20:37:20 <alejandra> ... but they way you filter out the ones that apply to github is going to this link...
20:38:06 <alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Arequirement
20:38:19 <stijngoedertier_AIV> https://www.w3.org/TR/dcat-ucr/#Tags
20:38:35 <alejandra> https://www.w3.org/TR/dcat-ucr/#Requirements
20:39:22 <alejandra> SimonCox: we can filter out those requirements tagged with DCAT from here:  https://www.w3.org/TR/dcat-ucr/#Tags
20:39:49 <alejandra> ... we need to review and make sure that the tags are correct
20:40:15 <alejandra> ... I suggest that we make that revision and ensure that the tagging is correct
20:40:27 <alejandra> ... easiest way to modify them would be to have them as github issues
20:40:35 <alejandra> ... but we can start preparing for that review
20:40:47 <SimonCox> regret: ANdreaPerego
20:41:02 <SimonCox> regrets: AndreaPerego
20:41:48 <alejandra> SimonCox: many of us submitted use cases, but the extraction of requirements was largely done by the UCR editors
20:42:18 <alejandra> ... they also sorted the requirements under subheading (from identification on...)
20:43:03 <alejandra> ... profiling are less related to DCAT per se...
20:43:16 <alejandra> ... adaptations or uses of DCAT vocabulary
20:43:38 <alejandra> ... should we try a divide and conquer approach to review this?
20:44:01 <alejandra> q+
20:44:07 <SimonCox> ack alejandra
20:44:43 <SimonCox> alejandra: split requirements, compile material, --> less work individually
20:45:18 <PWinstanley> 21:00 UTC +1
20:45:19 <riccardoAlbertoni_> yes I can
20:45:19 <SimonCox> ... Andrea has overlapping meeting - could we meet an hour later
20:45:21 <SimonCox> ?
20:45:28 <Makx> fine for me
20:45:30 <stijngoedertier_AIV> 21:00 UTC is ok
20:45:34 <arminhaller> +1 for 21:00 UTC
20:46:15 <SimonCox> +1 to move to 21:00
20:47:00 <Makx> q+
20:47:13 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:47:14 <SimonCox> However, note that clocks change again in April
20:48:09 <SimonCox> ack Makx
20:48:49 <SimonCox> Makx: what are meetings for?
20:49:04 <alejandra> Makx: I would prefer to have the discussions in github tracker
20:49:11 <alejandra> ... and use the meetings for getting consensus
20:49:24 <alejandra> ... as also the late time is not too good for me
20:49:37 <alejandra> SimonCox: I agree - the meetings would be to get together and verify that the process is working
20:49:57 <alejandra> ... to get people that committed on an action to report
20:50:03 <alejandra> Makx: status meetings
20:50:07 <alejandra> SimonCox: yes, exactly
20:50:49 <Makx> ok with me
20:50:52 <alejandra> SimonCox: the real record should be the record of changes in github issues (primary thread) and changes to the document tied to those issues will get us a proper record
20:51:27 <alejandra> SimonCox: I won't be available next week to run the meeting
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20:51:47 <Makx> q+
20:52:15 <SimonCox> ack Makx
20:52:17 <alejandra> PROPOSED: adjust timing of this meeting to 21:00 UTC (instead of the 20:00 UTC that we agreed now)
20:52:27 <SimonCox> +1
20:52:31 <arminhaller> +1
20:52:32 <alejandra> +1
20:52:36 <AndreaPerego> +100
20:52:38 <riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
20:52:41 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:53:02 <Makx> +1
20:53:31 <SimonCox> NickCar +1
20:53:51 <PWinstanley> +1
20:53:54 <stijngoedertier_AIV> +1
20:54:12 <alejandra> RESOLVED: we will propose back to plenary the change of time that we discussed in this call for 21:00 UTC
20:54:38 <alejandra> SimonCox: action on everyone, familiarize yourself with the list of requirements
20:54:51 <alejandra> ... hopefully within the next few days we will have the requirements as github issues
20:55:06 <alejandra> ... maybe we need to create labels for each of the subsections of the requiremnets
20:55:20 <alejandra> s/requiremnets/requirements
20:56:03 <PWinstanley> assume that it will be agreed
20:56:07 <riccardoAlbertoni_> +1 to send the mail
20:56:13 <PWinstanley> and make tentative plans
20:56:40 <SimonCox> ACTION: send email to dxwg list announcing intention to shift timeing of DXWGDCAT group back one hour
20:57:29 <SimonCox> ACTION: alejandra to create GitHub labels for subsections
20:58:15 <riccardoAlbertoni_> thanks, bye!
20:58:20 <Makx> thanks bye
20:58:21 <PWinstanley> thanks .. .bye
20:58:22 <alejandra> thanks, bye!
20:58:45 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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20:59:05 <SimonCox> Thanks Andrea
20:59:23 <AndreaPerego> A pleasure
20:59:41 <AndreaPerego> meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup teleconference
20:59:43 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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21:01:40 <alejandra> ... where are they recorded?
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22:29:58 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2018.01.17
22:30:04 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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22:30:19 <AndreaPerego> s/... where are they recorded?//
22:30:21 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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