20:18:03 RRSAgent has joined #ux 20:18:03 logging to https://www.w3.org/2017/12/06-ux-irc 20:19:49 WanderTheWeb has joined #ux 20:19:57 tjtn has joined #ux 20:23:11 rrsagent, bookmark 20:23:11 See https://www.w3.org/2017/12/06-ux-irc#T20-23-11 20:23:31 rrsagent, set logs world-visible 20:24:37 I'm creating this channel for discussions of UX Design and web design standards in general, especially as it relates to ease of use, accessibility, and the like. Was surprised to find no relevant channel here. 20:25:12 If you need to contact me, you can do so by PMing me or via my website at https://www.timnoetzel.com 20:31:02 pjc has joined #ux 20:32:01 Hey there 20:32:31 Hey, welcome! 20:33:21 tjtn has changed the topic to: [User Experience Design] 20:34:47 Quick UX question- I have an onboarding flow that explains an app I am building. Do people generally ask users to sign up at the beginning, middle, or end of an onboarding flow? 20:36:46 That's a great question 20:37:03 There's actually a lot of debate about that 20:37:18 And in my experience, it depends on the user's mental model more than anything else 20:38:02 If you expect them to hit the first page with a very strong knowledge about, and desire for, what you're offering, then you can (and should) ask them to sign up early 20:38:51 If the product or service is new or different, or if it's expensive or has high barriers to use or signup, then you probably want to move the signup request further back in the flow 20:39:26 So that you educate the user and (hopefully) increase their desire to sign up along the way 20:39:28 Make sense? 20:42:51 Cool, yeah that makes sense. Thanks! In my case, the user has some knowledge of the app already, so I'll probably ask them to sign up sooner rather than later. 20:45:01 Awesome 20:45:40 FWIW, though... be careful not to assume too much about how much knowledge they'll have... I read an article recently about people still struggling to sign up with Gmail... 20:45:50 And that's been around basically forever at this point 22:08:44 MapleLeafs94 has joined #ux 22:08:57 Hey all 22:09:03 anybody here? 22:09:43 Welcome Maple! 22:09:59 What's up? 22:10:17 Just saw that there was a UX channel and thought I'd join 22:10:27 Awesome. Good to have you 22:10:45 I just created to channel today, so it's pretty quiet in here, but let me know if there's anything I can do to help 22:11:03 Actually, maybe you can answer this... 22:11:33 I'm new to ux and wondering if there's a way to learn the basics quickly 22:11:38 Gotcha... 22:11:44 Yeah, so I think that's totally doable 22:12:08 There are fantastic resources all over the internet... everything from articles to paid courses 22:12:28 I think the best thing to do if you're interested in learning is make sure you understand UX from a 50,000 foot level 22:12:32 How do you mean? 22:15:30 So I tutor a lot of new designers, and the biggest mistake I see them making at the beginning is not really understanding what UX is and just focusing on the tools and approaches instead... 22:16:09 Those are key, but it's important to understand that UX as a skill is about understanding the user and their problems, validating and testing your proposed solutions to those problems, and then iterating on those 22:16:49 I'm actually working on a blog post about this, but it's not quite ready yet 22:16:54 Okay, gotcha 22:17:57 But anyway, if you're interested in learning ux fast, i'd suggest taking a look at the idea of Rapid Skill Acquisition... basically breaking down the skill into bite-sized chunks and prioritizing practicing 22:18:09 Nerd Fitness had a cool article on it a while back 22:18:23 Cool, thanks... 22:18:31 Is it alright if I follow up with specific questions? 22:18:38 Definitely! 22:20:12 Good luck! 22:20:29 I'm a fast learner, so this approach makes sense to me... 22:20:36 Might check out that book the First 20 Hours... 22:20:49 Yeah, I've read that book and I liked it 22:21:12 If you're looking for more specific UX books, I'd recommend Don't Make Me Think and Lean UX 22:21:21 Those are some good basics to start with 22:21:29 oh... and the Design of Everyday Things 22:21:43 anyway, I have to run for now, but I should be back on later 22:24:22 tjtn has joined #ux 23:54:59 tjtn has joined #ux