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16:10:13 <lisa> agenda+        updates, new wiki pages
16:13:27 <lisa> agenda+       https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/101569/actionfielddestination/    survey  based on version at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2017Oct/att-0028/semantics.html#action
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17:01:26 <thaddeus> +present
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17:02:37 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017#Agenda
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17:02:43 <clapierre> present+
17:03:03 <thaddeus> present+
17:04:43 <lisa> present+
17:04:49 <janina> present+
17:04:55 <lisa> scribe: thaddeus
17:05:02 <Roy> present+
17:05:17 <lisa> zakim, next item
17:05:17 <Zakim> agendum 1. "updates, new wiki pages" taken up [from lisa]
17:05:40 <thaddeus> Introductions - new to the task force
17:05:49 <thaddeus> Becky Gibson
17:06:02 <AndyHeath> present+
17:07:07 <thaddeus> Becky has worked on WCAG 2.1 and ARIA and now works for Knowbility
17:07:38 <lisa> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki
17:07:58 <lisa> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Implementations-In-Development
17:08:29 <thaddeus> Please put implementation on URL 2 - Wiki
17:08:38 <thaddeus> along with feature name
17:09:58 <thaddeus> Please add implementation with associated feature name
17:11:12 <lisa> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/TPAC2017
17:11:37 <clapierre> q+
17:11:46 <thaddeus> Lisa suggests collecting questions for groups at TPAC
17:13:41 <thaddeus> - Are the comfortable with the vocabulary
17:13:57 <thaddeus> - Process of making an ARIA module
17:17:33 <thaddeus> In general need to discuss personalization as an ARIA implementation including attribute syntax
17:18:21 <janina> Suggest p13n
17:18:39 <clapierre> right personalization is kinda long :)
17:18:54 <thaddeus> Currently the prefix is coga which is temporary to avoid collision
17:19:03 <clapierre> per-?
17:21:38 <lisa> cntx-
17:21:48 <lisa> contex
17:22:08 <lisa> ctx
17:22:46 <thaddeus> we need a prefix that is not limited to accessibility. It is unlikely that we can come to final consensus during TPAC
17:23:43 <thaddeus> Lisa suggest closing the prefix topic within 6 weeks. Michael indicates that this may be difficult given the amount of stakeholder and the holidays.
17:24:21 <lisa> q?
17:24:29 <lisa> ack c
17:25:24 <thaddeus> Confirming meeting with CSS at TPAC 11-12 monday
17:25:41 <thaddeus> 4:30 - 6 APA publishing meeting
17:26:02 <lisa> zakim, next item
17:26:02 <Zakim> agendum 2. "https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/101569/actionfielddestination/    survey  based on version at
17:26:04 <Zakim> ... https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2017Oct/att-0028/semantics.html#action" taken up [from lisa]
17:27:19 <lisa> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/101569/actionfielddestination/results
17:27:40 <thaddeus> I took the survey
17:28:54 <thaddeus> I felt comfortable with the number of items
17:29:03 <thaddeus> Did others feel the same
17:29:19 <thaddeus> Is four too much?
17:30:46 <thaddeus> Action is first on the agenda
17:30:50 <clapierre> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/101569/actionfielddestination/results
17:31:24 <lisa> The action attribute
17:33:26 <lisa> sign up to register
17:38:08 <clapierre> Next / Previous button discussion Thaddeus will send an email after he thinks about this.
17:38:11 <lisa> q?
17:39:55 <lisa> action: charles to add first and last
17:41:59 <thaddeus> survey comment suggested explicit relationship for move - this may be an ARIA implementation vs Personalization
17:43:33 <thaddeus> suggestion is to ask ARIA how a destination would be implemented within the context of move
17:45:38 <thaddeus> one suggestion is move-right move-left move-up move-down
17:45:41 <thaddeus> lets shelf this
17:49:47 <thaddeus> lisa suggests reviewing simplification next week with the goal of consistency with other attributes
17:50:09 <lisa> action: lisa update the defults for simplification
17:50:29 <lisa> action: charles, make aflbetical
17:52:10 <lisa> q?
17:58:17 <janina> Lisa: We should save some time to talk about next call, i.e. post TPAC
17:59:19 <lisa> action: lisa email micael request to do code example in destination
17:59:54 <thaddeus> Expectations for next call. Should we have a call for the next two weeks?
17:59:58 <thaddeus> No meeting next week
18:00:51 <thaddeus> Lisa will email the list to see who is available for the 13th
18:01:31 <thaddeus> Thank you and welcome Becky
18:02:05 <clapierre> rrsagent, make logs public
18:02:12 <clapierre> rrsagent, draft minutes
18:02:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/10/30-personalization-minutes.html clapierre
18:02:55 <clapierre> rrsagent, bye
18:02:55 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/30-personalization-actions.rdf :
18:02:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: charles to add first and last [1]
18:02:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/30-personalization-irc#T17-39-55
18:02:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa update the defults for simplification [2]
18:02:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/30-personalization-irc#T17-50-09
18:02:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: charles, make aflbetical [3]
18:02:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/30-personalization-irc#T17-50-29
18:02:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa email micael request to do code example in destination [4]
18:02:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/30-personalization-irc#T17-59-19