12:52:35 RRSAgent has joined #rqtf 12:52:35 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-rqtf-irc 12:52:37 RRSAgent, make logs world 12:52:37 Zakim has joined #rqtf 12:52:39 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 12:52:39 Date: 18 October 2017 12:53:01 agenda+ Accessibility of Virtual Reality - research synopsis 12:53:40 agenda+ Task Force updates - TPAC meetings, Web authentication specification, etc. 12:57:19 scott_h has joined #rqtf 13:01:59 present+ 13:03:35 zakim, next item 13:03:35 agendum 1. "Accessibility of Virtual Reality - research synopsis" taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:03:40 scribe: janina 13:04:09 present+ 13:04:48 jgw: Added a para re physical movement as per our call last week 13:05:44 jgw: i.e. some users may be unable to make certain movements 13:06:14 sh: Looks great! 13:07:09 sh: Found some lit re movement in gaming, but not vr specifically 13:07:28 sh: Can followup by next call 13:08:18 jgw: Seems we're generally OK with this draft, so can move forward 13:08:40 jgw: We need to think how our findings can inform authoring as that's the Workshop focus 13:09:18 jgw: We believe tooling may be unavailable for a11y support, so too much coding required 13:09:47 jgw: Asking how we should address authoring? 13:10:15 sh: Perhaps first get Shadi's feedback? 13:10:38 jb: He'll be in Cambridge next week, so I can prepare him 13:11:52 jgw: tooling -- libraries, etc 13:13:51 Janina queries whether it's generally true that VR needs specialist tooling than other applications do for development. If this is the case, there are probably efforts in this direction and we need to inject accessibility support into those discussions. 13:14:47 jgw: Recalls APA meeting wanted to focus on supporting hw 13:16:28 Janina: there's less customization and greater out of the box support for accessibility if it's introduced into the tooling/infrastructure. Some author knowledge is still required, but it's reduced. 13:17:28 Janina: if the focus of the workshop is on authoring, waht appraoches and cobminations thereof will be the focus? 13:18:33 jb: Still trying to reconnect the person met at a conference who's already focussed on a11y in vr 13:18:52 jb: Seemed his company may have their own 13:19:07 jb: Believe Dom most interested in meeting with developers 13:20:06 jb: Seems it's platform by platform 13:20:13 jgw: Which would make it more difficult 13:20:43 sh: Any work on how a screen reader would work in a vr environment 13:22:47 sh: Wondering about any work for consistent AT implementation in VR 13:24:29 Janina notes systems whereby metadata are preserved about the location of a sound (e.g., for up to 128 objects). With sufficiently many speakers, objects can be moved around the listener in 3D space. 13:27:55 Judy has joined #rqtf 13:28:30 Janina notes a VR status report in the current issue of Sound and Vision Magazine, which is also addressing the 3D audio technologies. 13:30:08 Judy is generally satisfied with the VR research synopsis, noting formatting issues in the References section. 13:32:22 Janina: implementations of 3D audio are now widely available, greatly increasing the number of speakers used in the hardware configuration. 13:34:00 Janina: the Sound and Vision review identifies issues with lag in VR systems and recent improvements in this regard. 13:35:55 jgw: Recalls reach constraint discussion from APA VR call 13:37:51 sh: Notes great work on the VR writeup 13:38:34 zakim, next item 13:38:34 agendum 2. "Task Force updates - TPAC meetings, Web authentication specification, etc." taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:39:08 jgw: Reviewed authentication spec 13:39:32 jgw: provides an api supporting creation of new identities 13:40:11 jgw: So web app need not concern about authentication, it's all client side using pub key crypto 13:41:21 jgw: Notes it's a complex api with considerable change since earlier review 13:42:28 jgw: Requires unique identifier for authentication module/device, server can identify device type, hw, etc 13:43:16 jgw: May be specific scenarios requiring certain kinds of devices that could impede a11y 13:45:41 jgw: Might this require a W3C note? WCAG coverage? 13:46:41 Janina: the outcome of APA discussions last year suggested that the accessibility issues are most pertinent at the next layer - where devices and their characteristics are discussed. 13:51:22 sh: Offering to look for lit 13:52:24 sh: re WoT ... 13:53:09 sh: Progress--MAY, emphasis, MAY have late week 13:53:42 sh: Possibly could do update for the group soon 13:54:26 jgw: If you ping, I can add to agenda 13:56:52 zakim, bye 13:56:52 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been MichaelC, scott_h 13:56:52 Zakim has left #rqtf 13:57:01 rrsagent, make minutes 13:57:01 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-rqtf-minutes.html jasonjgw 13:57:08 rrsagent, bye 13:57:08 I see no action items