15:45:33 RRSAgent has joined #apa 15:45:33 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-irc 15:45:35 RRSAgent, make logs world 15:45:35 Zakim has joined #apa 15:45:37 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 15:45:37 Date: 18 October 2017 15:45:44 agenda? 15:47:26 agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes 15:47:26 agenda+ TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017 15:47:26 agenda+ CSS A11y TF 15:47:26 agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8 15:47:27 agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html 15:47:28 agenda+ Other Business 15:47:31 agenda+ next and future meetings 15:47:33 agenda+ be done 16:01:42 JF has joined #apa 16:02:04 Gottfried has joined #apa 16:03:13 scribe: JF 16:03:17 present+ 16:03:18 agenda? 16:03:22 chair: janina 16:03:27 regrets: leonie 16:03:33 zakim, who is here? 16:03:33 Present: janina 16:03:34 On IRC I see Gottfried, JF, Zakim, RRSAgent, Roy, florian, Rossen, MichielBijl, janina, MichaelC, slightlyoff, joanie, ShaneM, trackbot 16:03:34 zakim, next item 16:03:34 agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina] 16:04:07 JS: any news or tweaks to the agenda for today? 16:04:20 present+ Joanmarie_Diggs 16:04:35 present+ Roy 16:04:55 present+ 16:05:58 agneda is minimal today, as we've loaded up things iin the past. 16:06:05 JS: Any General news? 16:06:45 Gottfried: we should plan to present results of the MOOC partnership I was involved with 16:06:55 lots of good results, it was a valuable exercise 16:07:02 lots of open source resources emerged 16:07:31 Running right now on FutureLearn: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/digital-accessibility 16:08:23 example is an introductory course - not too technical but rather a basic Accessibility 101 focussing on users and their AT 16:08:40 There are other courses that do deeper dives on specific topics 16:09:00 JS: Asking if we could do this at TPAC? 16:09:14 Gottfried: Wont' be there. Proposae sending out an email 16:09:29 s/Proposae /Propose 16:09:39 JS: may also be relvant to EO WG 16:10:26 JS: one of our larger APA issues is understanding how all of this fit in. What is the relationship with mobile? What is the Architecture we're trying to build out? 16:10:58 JS: tracking these thoughts back to other action items (i.e. Permissions spec. etc.) 16:11:21 JS: HOw do we structure and present that conversation? No specific ideas, but we should be thinking about this 16:11:40 zakim, next item 16:11:40 agendum 2. "TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017" taken up [from janina] 16:12:30 JS: Looking at a draft agenda. Some changes to come based upon availability and who will be attending TPAC 16:13:50 Review of current draft agenda(s) 16:14:14 Draft agenda to be posted soon - M. Cooper to advise group via email 16:14:50 JS: thee seems to be 4 joint meetings in the pipeline already 16:14:56 s/thee/there 16:15:35 JS: still looking to coordinate meetings outside of the APA timeslots - in particular the Web Payments folks (Authentication API) 16:16:11 JB: We can work something out, given that ARIA WG will attend the joint meeting with CSS 16:16:38 JB: Janina and Joanie should coordinate more 16:16:56 zakim, next item 16:16:56 agendum 3. "CSS A11y TF" taken up [from janina] 16:16:58 JS: Also want to find a time-slot to accomodate Western Australia remote attendee 16:17:01 s/JB:/JD:/g 16:17:13 zakim, close this item 16:17:13 agendum 3 closed 16:17:15 I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 16:17:15 4. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8 [from janina] 16:17:16 zakim, next item 16:17:16 agendum 4. "Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina] 16:18:06 ACTION 2151 16:18:21 action-2151? 16:18:21 action-2151 -- Janina Sajka to Review permissions https://www.w3.org/tr/permissions/ -- due 2017-10-18 -- OPEN 16:18:21 http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2151 16:19:06 MC: so, leave open for now? Janina has more effort to apply 16:19:32 Gottfried: there is a new initiative under way that uses metadata for permissions 16:19:41 JS: that sounds interesting 16:19:56 Gottfried: this is not yet public, so will need to share privately for now 16:20:33 action-2131? 16:20:33 action-2131 -- Michael Cooper to Ask webappsec if csp is meant to block bookmarklets, and raise issue of a11y scripts that users explicitly request (not xss) -- due 2017-05-17 -- OPEN 16:20:33 http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2131 16:20:45 MC: getting stale but should remain open 16:21:12 MC: some items related to Shadow DOM on Shane... also getting dated/stale 16:21:20 JS: anyone else able to take this up? 16:21:45 JS: leave for now. 16:22:47 action-2038? 16:22:47 action-2038 -- Michael Cooper to Raise [https://www.w3.org/tr/credential-management-1/ credential management level 1] for re-review -- due 2017-09-22 -- OPEN 16:22:47 http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2038 16:23:12 MC: this is a placeholder - to revisit if we need to do more review 16:23:20 MC: checking notes 16:23:21 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Credential_Management_Level_1 16:23:48 MC: Fred reviewed this about 18 months ago - recommended we come back to it at a later date 16:24:03 MC: tossed to COGA TF (but suspect it didn't happen) 16:25:18 JS: we have two specs that COGA should review - we should coordinate this with that group 16:25:41 JS: COGA should be more involved with APA's Spec Reviews 16:26:00 MC: have a collector page for specs that require COGA review 16:26:03 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:COGA 16:26:14 MC: we should point COGA to that page 16:27:01 action-2038 due 4 months 16:27:01 Set action-2038 Raise [https://www.w3.org/tr/credential-management-1/ credential management level 1] for re-review due date to 2018-02-18. 16:27:02 JS: bump this forward 4 months and revisit then 16:27:21 zakim, next item 16:27:21 agendum 5. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina] 16:27:35 MC: two that we should look at 16:27:41 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.1/ TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.1 16:28:43 Gottfried: I can look at this, but will need some time (3 weeks) 16:29:09 action: gottfried to review TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.1/ 16:29:11 Created ACTION-2152 - Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ [on Gottfried Zimmermann - due 2017-10-25]. 16:29:28 action-2152: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/TTML_Profiles_for_Internet_Media_Subtitles_and_Captions_1.1 16:29:28 Notes added to action-2152 Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/. 16:29:51 action-2152 due 3 weeks 16:29:51 Set action-2152 Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ due date to 2017-11-08. 16:30:03 action-2152 due 4 weeks 16:30:03 Set action-2152 Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ due date to 2017-11-15. 16:31:23 [Discussion around meetings this fall, working around TPAC, US Thanksgiving, etc.] 16:32:17 MC: we were tracking previous versions of the TTML spec. MC to update links (etc.) 16:32:18 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-backgrounds-3/ CSS Backgrounds and Borders Module Level 3 16:33:18 MC: currently at CR, but it languished for almost 3 years, and then advanced to CR recently. Last time they tried to advance this, APA blocked advancement due to issues 16:33:27 MC: not clear now if those issues have been addressed 16:34:18 JS: This was a public review announcement 16:35:16 MC: looks like we didn't object to the 2014 CR, so perhaps we have nothing more to add (??) 16:35:48 JS: refer to CSS/a11y TF 16:36:11 MC: not sure how active this is, but we should at least double-check 16:36:46 zakim, next item 16:36:46 agendum 6. "Other Business" taken up [from janina] 16:36:57 scribe: janina 16:37:02 WCAG 2.1 Working Draft for SC 2.6.2 - Orientation (https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#orientation) 16:37:17 jf: AGWG discussion of SC for WCAG 2.1 on screen orientation 16:37:47 jf: Use case is mounted screen on a wheel chair 16:37:48 Screen Orientation API Working Draft (https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-orientation/#locking-the-screen-orientation) 16:38:20 jf: Nothing in the Orientation API on issues created by locking down orientation 16:39:47 js: Isn't lock concern handled by OS? A desire to keep a orientation can be locked down by OS setting 16:47:48 Last Editor's Draft was may 2017: https://w3c.github.io/screen-orientation/ 16:48:20 ACTION: JF to review and draft a warning note for Orienation API Spec, for APA review 16:48:21 Created ACTION-2153 - Review and draft a warning note for orienation api spec, for apa review [on John Foliot - due 2017-10-25]. 16:48:45 scribe: JF 16:48:59 JS: with no other business, we can adjorne 16:49:35 RRSAgent, make logs public 16:49:42 trackbot, end meeting 16:49:42 Zakim, list attendees 16:49:42 As of this point the attendees have been janina, Joanmarie_Diggs, Roy, Gottfried 16:49:50 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 16:49:50 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-minutes.html trackbot 16:49:51 RRSAgent, bye 16:49:51 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-actions.rdf : 16:49:51 ACTION: gottfried to review TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.1/ [1] 16:49:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-irc#T16-29-09 16:49:51 ACTION: JF to review and draft a warning note for Orienation API Spec, for APA review [2] 16:49:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-irc#T16-48-20