IRC log of apa on 2017-10-18
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 18 October 2017
- 15:45:44 [janina]
- agenda?
- 15:47:26 [janina]
- agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
- 15:47:26 [janina]
- agenda+ TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017
- 15:47:26 [janina]
- agenda+ CSS A11y TF
- 15:47:26 [janina]
- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ next and future meetings
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- agenda+ be done
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- 16:02:04 [Gottfried]
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- scribe: JF
- 16:03:17 [janina]
- present+
- 16:03:18 [JF]
- agenda?
- 16:03:22 [janina]
- chair: janina
- 16:03:27 [janina]
- regrets: leonie
- 16:03:33 [JF]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:03:33 [Zakim]
- Present: janina
- 16:03:34 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Gottfried, JF, Zakim, RRSAgent, Roy, florian, Rossen, MichielBijl, janina, MichaelC, slightlyoff, joanie, ShaneM, trackbot
- 16:03:34 [janina]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
- 16:04:07 [JF]
- JS: any news or tweaks to the agenda for today?
- 16:04:20 [joanie]
- present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
- 16:04:35 [Roy]
- present+ Roy
- 16:04:55 [Gottfried]
- present+
- 16:05:58 [JF]
- agneda is minimal today, as we've loaded up things iin the past.
- 16:06:05 [JF]
- JS: Any General news?
- 16:06:45 [JF]
- Gottfried: we should plan to present results of the MOOC partnership I was involved with
- 16:06:55 [JF]
- lots of good results, it was a valuable exercise
- 16:07:02 [JF]
- lots of open source resources emerged
- 16:07:31 [Gottfried]
- Running right now on FutureLearn: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/digital-accessibility
- 16:08:23 [JF]
- example is an introductory course - not too technical but rather a basic Accessibility 101 focussing on users and their AT
- 16:08:40 [JF]
- There are other courses that do deeper dives on specific topics
- 16:09:00 [JF]
- JS: Asking if we could do this at TPAC?
- 16:09:14 [JF]
- Gottfried: Wont' be there. Proposae sending out an email
- 16:09:29 [JF]
- s/Proposae /Propose
- 16:09:39 [JF]
- JS: may also be relvant to EO WG
- 16:10:26 [JF]
- JS: one of our larger APA issues is understanding how all of this fit in. What is the relationship with mobile? What is the Architecture we're trying to build out?
- 16:10:58 [JF]
- JS: tracking these thoughts back to other action items (i.e. Permissions spec. etc.)
- 16:11:21 [JF]
- JS: HOw do we structure and present that conversation? No specific ideas, but we should be thinking about this
- 16:11:40 [janina]
- zakim, next item
- 16:11:40 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "TPAC 2017 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2017" taken up [from janina]
- 16:12:30 [JF]
- JS: Looking at a draft agenda. Some changes to come based upon availability and who will be attending TPAC
- 16:13:50 [JF]
- Review of current draft agenda(s)
- 16:14:14 [JF]
- Draft agenda to be posted soon - M. Cooper to advise group via email
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- JS: thee seems to be 4 joint meetings in the pipeline already
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- s/thee/there
- 16:15:35 [JF]
- JS: still looking to coordinate meetings outside of the APA timeslots - in particular the Web Payments folks (Authentication API)
- 16:16:11 [JF]
- JB: We can work something out, given that ARIA WG will attend the joint meeting with CSS
- 16:16:38 [JF]
- JB: Janina and Joanie should coordinate more
- 16:16:56 [janina]
- zakim, next item
- 16:16:56 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "CSS A11y TF" taken up [from janina]
- 16:16:58 [JF]
- JS: Also want to find a time-slot to accomodate Western Australia remote attendee
- 16:17:01 [joanie]
- s/JB:/JD:/g
- 16:17:13 [janina]
- zakim, close this item
- 16:17:13 [Zakim]
- agendum 3 closed
- 16:17:15 [Zakim]
- I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 16:17:15 [Zakim]
- 4. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8 [from janina]
- 16:17:16 [janina]
- zakim, next item
- 16:17:16 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina]
- 16:18:06 [JF]
- ACTION 2151
- 16:18:21 [Gottfried]
- action-2151?
- 16:18:21 [trackbot]
- action-2151 -- Janina Sajka to Review permissions https://www.w3.org/tr/permissions/ -- due 2017-10-18 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2151
- 16:19:06 [JF]
- MC: so, leave open for now? Janina has more effort to apply
- 16:19:32 [JF]
- Gottfried: there is a new initiative under way that uses metadata for permissions
- 16:19:41 [JF]
- JS: that sounds interesting
- 16:19:56 [JF]
- Gottfried: this is not yet public, so will need to share privately for now
- 16:20:33 [JF]
- action-2131?
- 16:20:33 [trackbot]
- action-2131 -- Michael Cooper to Ask webappsec if csp is meant to block bookmarklets, and raise issue of a11y scripts that users explicitly request (not xss) -- due 2017-05-17 -- OPEN
- 16:20:33 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2131
- 16:20:45 [JF]
- MC: getting stale but should remain open
- 16:21:12 [JF]
- MC: some items related to Shadow DOM on Shane... also getting dated/stale
- 16:21:20 [JF]
- JS: anyone else able to take this up?
- 16:21:45 [JF]
- JS: leave for now.
- 16:22:47 [JF]
- action-2038?
- 16:22:47 [trackbot]
- action-2038 -- Michael Cooper to Raise [https://www.w3.org/tr/credential-management-1/ credential management level 1] for re-review -- due 2017-09-22 -- OPEN
- 16:22:47 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2038
- 16:23:12 [JF]
- MC: this is a placeholder - to revisit if we need to do more review
- 16:23:20 [JF]
- MC: checking notes
- 16:23:21 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Credential_Management_Level_1
- 16:23:48 [JF]
- MC: Fred reviewed this about 18 months ago - recommended we come back to it at a later date
- 16:24:03 [JF]
- MC: tossed to COGA TF (but suspect it didn't happen)
- 16:25:18 [JF]
- JS: we have two specs that COGA should review - we should coordinate this with that group
- 16:25:41 [JF]
- JS: COGA should be more involved with APA's Spec Reviews
- 16:26:00 [JF]
- MC: have a collector page for specs that require COGA review
- 16:26:03 [MichaelC]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:COGA
- 16:26:14 [JF]
- MC: we should point COGA to that page
- 16:27:01 [MichaelC]
- action-2038 due 4 months
- 16:27:01 [trackbot]
- Set action-2038 Raise [https://www.w3.org/tr/credential-management-1/ credential management level 1] for re-review due date to 2018-02-18.
- 16:27:02 [JF]
- JS: bump this forward 4 months and revisit then
- 16:27:21 [janina]
- zakim, next item
- 16:27:21 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]
- 16:27:35 [JF]
- MC: two that we should look at
- 16:27:41 [MichaelC]
- -> https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.1/ TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.1
- 16:28:43 [JF]
- Gottfried: I can look at this, but will need some time (3 weeks)
- 16:29:09 [MichaelC]
- action: gottfried to review TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.1/
- 16:29:11 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2152 - Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ [on Gottfried Zimmermann - due 2017-10-25].
- 16:29:28 [MichaelC]
- action-2152: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/TTML_Profiles_for_Internet_Media_Subtitles_and_Captions_1.1
- 16:29:28 [trackbot]
- Notes added to action-2152 Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/.
- 16:29:51 [MichaelC]
- action-2152 due 3 weeks
- 16:29:51 [trackbot]
- Set action-2152 Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ due date to 2017-11-08.
- 16:30:03 [MichaelC]
- action-2152 due 4 weeks
- 16:30:03 [trackbot]
- Set action-2152 Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1.1/ due date to 2017-11-15.
- 16:31:23 [JF]
- [Discussion around meetings this fall, working around TPAC, US Thanksgiving, etc.]
- 16:32:17 [JF]
- MC: we were tracking previous versions of the TTML spec. MC to update links (etc.)
- 16:32:18 [MichaelC]
- -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-backgrounds-3/ CSS Backgrounds and Borders Module Level 3
- 16:33:18 [JF]
- MC: currently at CR, but it languished for almost 3 years, and then advanced to CR recently. Last time they tried to advance this, APA blocked advancement due to issues
- 16:33:27 [JF]
- MC: not clear now if those issues have been addressed
- 16:34:18 [JF]
- JS: This was a public review announcement
- 16:35:16 [JF]
- MC: looks like we didn't object to the 2014 CR, so perhaps we have nothing more to add (??)
- 16:35:48 [JF]
- JS: refer to CSS/a11y TF
- 16:36:11 [JF]
- MC: not sure how active this is, but we should at least double-check
- 16:36:46 [janina]
- zakim, next item
- 16:36:46 [Zakim]
- agendum 6. "Other Business" taken up [from janina]
- 16:36:57 [janina]
- scribe: janina
- 16:37:02 [JF]
- WCAG 2.1 Working Draft for SC 2.6.2 - Orientation (https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#orientation)
- 16:37:17 [janina]
- jf: AGWG discussion of SC for WCAG 2.1 on screen orientation
- 16:37:47 [janina]
- jf: Use case is mounted screen on a wheel chair
- 16:37:48 [JF]
- Screen Orientation API Working Draft (https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-orientation/#locking-the-screen-orientation)
- 16:38:20 [janina]
- jf: Nothing in the Orientation API on issues created by locking down orientation
- 16:39:47 [janina]
- js: Isn't lock concern handled by OS? A desire to keep a orientation can be locked down by OS setting
- 16:47:48 [JF]
- Last Editor's Draft was may 2017: https://w3c.github.io/screen-orientation/
- 16:48:20 [JF]
- ACTION: JF to review and draft a warning note for Orienation API Spec, for APA review
- 16:48:21 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-2153 - Review and draft a warning note for orienation api spec, for apa review [on John Foliot - due 2017-10-25].
- 16:48:45 [JF]
- scribe: JF
- 16:48:59 [JF]
- JS: with no other business, we can adjorne
- 16:49:35 [JF]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
- 16:49:42 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been janina, Joanmarie_Diggs, Roy, Gottfried
- 16:49:50 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 16:49:50 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-minutes.html trackbot
- 16:49:51 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 16:49:51 [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: gottfried to review TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.1 https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.1/ [1]
- 16:49:51 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-irc#T16-29-09
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- ACTION: JF to review and draft a warning note for Orienation API Spec, for APA review [2]
- 16:49:51 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-apa-irc#T16-48-20