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15:03:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
15:03:55 <trackbot> Date: 05 October 2017
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15:05:10 <r12a> joining information is here https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html
15:05:50 <r12a> previous minutes: https://www.w3.org/2017/09/28-i18n-minutes.html
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15:08:28 <Klensin> present+ JcK
15:08:41 <r12a> present+ r12a, david, andrew
15:10:39 <Bert> present+
15:10:43 <r12a> visually KA+VIRAMA+SHA = KA+ZWJ+AA
15:12:10 <r12a> Topic: Action Items
15:12:10 <r12a> 
15:12:10 <r12a>    http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:12:40 <r12a> close action-656
15:12:41 <trackbot> Closed action-656.
15:12:58 <r12a> was "Notify websub we are satisfied with 124"
15:13:30 <r12a> De-pend all the css-text-decor issues
15:13:39 <r12a> close action-659
15:13:39 <trackbot> Closed action-659.
15:13:59 <r12a> Topic: Info Share
15:15:49 <r12a> none
15:15:52 <r12a> Topic: UTR 53 Unicode Arabic Mark Ordering Algorithm
15:16:01 <r12a> http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr53/
15:16:24 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Autr53
15:17:29 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/492#issuecomment-334101665
15:17:37 <r12a> [[
15:17:38 <r12a> I'm beginning to suspect that the algorithm described is intended to just indicate how characters should be temporarily reordered prior to rendering, rather than describe the order in which code points should be stored. Since most fonts generally produce the behaviour described anyway, it would therefore amount to documenting expectations in terms of font behaviour, rather than specifying a new form of normalisation.
15:17:43 <r12a> It's not at all clear from the document whether that is the case, however, so i think that has to be our first question, and perhaps we need to await an answer to that before sending in many of the other comments.
15:17:45 <r12a> ]]
15:19:36 <r12a> JcK: I believe i concur
15:19:59 <r12a> ... it may describe new problems wrt confusables
15:20:23 <r12a> ... may be worth saying that if we correctly understood this, the document needs to be updated to make it clear
15:22:48 <r12a> ACTION: Richard to raise comment against UTR53 asking for clarity about what they are trying to do
15:22:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-660 - Raise comment against utr53 asking for clarity about what they are trying to do [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-10-12].
15:23:10 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/490
15:24:49 <r12a> raise this as a personal comment
15:26:20 <r12a> resolution: Richard send comment for which he has action, then await response before sending more
15:27:28 <r12a> Topic: Issue triage
15:27:30 <r12a> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2017OctDec/0002.html
15:27:52 <r12a> intersection-observer
15:27:53 <r12a> • rootMargin may need to be directionally sensitive
15:27:53 <r12a>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/488
15:35:02 <r12a> ACTION: Richard to send https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/488 to Intersection Observer group
15:35:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-661 - Send https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/488 to intersection observer group [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-10-12].
15:36:22 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/410
15:38:48 <r12a> agree to close
15:39:45 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/334
15:40:17 <r12a> added a note at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/commit/f9e4a418819b8226d0ce5c828befc55042848c9d
15:41:01 <r12a> agree to close
15:42:28 <r12a> Topic: Radars
15:42:56 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
15:51:44 <r12a> Any reaction for DNT would appreciated by the WG - so they can report status.
15:51:54 <r12a> even if no review done
15:52:43 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/language-matrix.html
15:53:39 <r12a> Meeting adjourned.
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