IRC log of silver on 2017-09-26
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- Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 26 September 2017
- 13:31:55 [Lauriat]
- agenda+ Task Force driven research: interviews, analysis, etc.
- 13:32:00 [Lauriat]
- agenda+ Research project updates
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- agenda+ Open action items https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open review
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- 13:34:17 [Lauriat]
- Zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Task Force driven research: interviews, analysis, etc." taken up [from Lauriat]
- 13:34:56 [jeanne]
- Topic: Interviews
- 13:34:58 [jeanne]
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N0tvIX1zWiNSKSmC2xYwsnFwCzgTGguj0_rADK7boRY/edit
- 13:35:34 [jeanne]
- scribe: jeanne
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- Shawn: the target research questions are helpful for follow up and making sure that the conversation stays focused.
- 13:36:48 [jeanne]
- ... I will contact Loretta for the pilot.
- 13:37:08 [jeanne]
- ... I will send her the questions in advance
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- Jennison: I strongly suggest you record it.
- 13:39:38 [jeanne]
- ... you can tell them that you will destroy the recording after you take notes.
- 13:40:21 [jeanne]
- Jeanne: I don't think we should automatically destroy it. If the person being interviewed insists, then we could, but I don't want to automatically destroy information.
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- Jennison: We need to figure out how to handle interview data and attribution.
- 13:42:52 [jeanne]
- Jemma: That's correct, in an academic environment we have to get ethics board approval for our policies of privacy, attribution, and publication.
- 13:44:12 [jeanne]
- Jennison: We have to take a stance that what we are doing. We have to be consistent. We have to be explicit and transparent of what we are going to do.
- 13:44:43 [jeanne]
- Jemma: There are guidelines in academia. The interviewee has to be informed in advance.
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- 13:50:19 [jeanne]
- Jeanne: I think that what we do has to be in the public record, for reasons of transparency. I'm ok with with correcting the record, but we shouldn't have secret interviews.
- 13:51:09 [jeanne]
- Michael: We don't want there to be claims of opinions that aren't verifiable. Normally, we offer attribution to credit people, but if people don't want the credit, because I think is not a problem.
- 13:51:55 [jeanne]
- Jemma: If I want to join the research as a member of UofIllinois without having IRB review for human subject participation.
- 13:52:47 [jeanne]
- ... (IRB, Institutional Review Board). If I participate in the Interview or Survey projects, I have to have permission from my IRB.
- 13:54:17 [jeanne]
- Shawn: It's ok that you aren't involved, since you have a lot of work on the Literature Review.
- 13:54:22 [jemma]
- https://oprs.research.illinois.edu/forms-templates/templates
- 13:55:30 [jeanne]
- Michael: I don't want a 3 month delay for IRB review, but we should be careful to follow protocols for working with human subjects.
- 13:56:30 [jeanne]
- ... The Research Questions Task Force could help. It would be best to work with David Sloan.
- 13:57:46 [jeanne]
- Jemma: There is an online training that we have to go through. It protects the interviewee. It takes a little time but it is doable.
- 13:58:09 [jemma]
- https://oprs.research.illinois.edu/
- 13:58:42 [jemma]
- https://oprs.research.illinois.edu/review-processes-checklists
- 14:01:24 [jemma]
- https://oprs.research.illinois.edu/review-processes-checklists/review-types#AExemptReview
- 14:01:43 [jemma]
- https://oprs.research.illinois.edu/review-processes-checklists/review-types#AExpeditedReview
- 14:06:27 [jemma]
- https://oprs.research.illinois.edu/review-processes-checklists/collaborating-research
- 14:13:53 [jemma]
- https://couhes.mit.edu/training-research-involving-human-subjects
- 14:14:58 [jeanne]
- action: Jemma to talk with her contact at IRB about what is needed to conduct research.
- 14:14:59 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-123 - Talk with her contact at irb about what is needed to conduct research. [on JaEun Ku - due 2017-10-03].
- 14:16:15 [jeanne]
- action: Jeanne to (with Jennison) to read through the IRB information
- 14:16:15 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-124 - (with jennison) to read through the irb information [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2017-10-03].
- 14:17:15 [jeanne]
- action: Jan to (with Sheri) to investigate the IRB requirements and give a recommendation.
- 14:17:16 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-125 - (with sheri) to investigate the irb requirements and give a recommendation. [on Jan McSorley - due 2017-10-03].
- 14:19:31 [jeanne]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 2. "Research project updates" taken up [from Lauriat]
- 14:20:09 [jeanne]
- Jan: I talked with Tyson last week. He has a list of questions to ask at the staff and students at the Community College Level.
- 14:20:21 [jeanne]
- ... Read and respond to the email I sent with the questions.
- 14:20:34 [jeanne]
- ... I have a meeting with him in two weeks.
- 14:20:58 [jeanne]
- ... are there other questions we want him to ask?
- 14:21:46 [jeanne]
- Jan: Klaus has been busy with travel and the college. He hasn't been able to find a time to meet about the CSUN special journal idea, and wants to exchange ideas by email.
- 14:22:36 [jeanne]
- ... I want to Shawn and Jeanne to propose to Klaus what we want to do. We need to think through that.
- 14:22:54 [jeanne]
- ... he will need to get permission from CSUN to do it.
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- Jan: I haven't heard back from Nancy. Michael Heron and I meeting this week.
- 14:23:59 [jeanne]
- ... Michael wants to do a diary study with students with a course requirement.
- 14:25:33 [jeanne]
- Jeanne: I think we need to have a meeting to discuss Klaus' proposal. I don't know enough about his idea to be able to write a proposal of what we want.
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- [scheduled]
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- Jemma: How do you want us to respond to Tyson?
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- Jan: Please respond to the email with your comments inline.
- 14:27:50 [jeanne]
- Jennison: Is there an urgency to publish this year? Could we publish next year (2019)?
- 14:28:06 [jeanne]
- Jan: I think there is no urgency. Klaus is trying to be helpful in getting the word out.
- 14:29:48 [jeanne]
- Topic: CSUN submission
- 14:29:51 [jemma]
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/15f0AklBmGT4UmH7uzWgvoMWalLKv7zQhvAqqWx_kOTw/edit
- 14:31:41 [jeanne]
- Shawn: Pete McNally will join us Friday to talk abot Survey Results.
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- present+ jeanne, Shawn, Jennison, Jemma, Jan
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- chair: Shawn, Jeanne
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