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13:32:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
13:32:34 <trackbot> Date: 15 September 2017
13:32:39 <Lauriat> agenda?
13:33:33 <Lauriat> agenda+ CSUN
13:38:06 <Lauriat> Zakim, next item
13:38:06 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Interviews Proposal" taken up [from SarahHorton]
13:38:11 <Lauriat> Zakim, take up item 1
13:38:11 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Silver Surveys Strategy update" taken up [from SarahHorton]
13:38:27 <Lauriat> Dave proposed creating a spreadsheet for the interview questions to match them to stakeholder groups. All approve!
13:39:13 <Lauriat> Zakim, take up item 4
13:39:13 <Zakim> agendum 4. "CSUN" taken up [from Lauriat]
13:39:59 <Lauriat> Jeanne: What are our plans as a Task Force, what do we want to present as a topic? What do we want to do as a workshop?
13:40:33 <Lauriat> ...didn't factor in time for approval from W3C for the workshop part.
13:40:48 <Lauriat> ...Back to the topic: what do we want to do for the presentation?
13:43:14 <Lauriat> Shawn: Maybe a talk on research results up to that point?
13:43:37 <Lauriat> Jennison: Also a great opportunity to solicit more participants and stakeholders to help out.
13:47:29 <Lauriat> Action: Jeanne to write first draft of CSUN proposal
13:47:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - Write first draft of csun proposal [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2017-09-22].
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13:51:58 <jemma> present+ JaEunJemmaku
13:54:26 <Lauriat> Next up: workshop.
13:55:51 <Lauriat> Jeanne: First day would maybe have issues raised from the papers presented by participants in the workshop.
13:56:43 <Lauriat> ...Second day, we would open up to more people, doing some prototyping based on decisions made the day before.
13:57:01 <Lauriat> Jennison: I thought one day - always two days?
13:57:17 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Pretty sure, yeah. The wiki should say two.
13:58:25 <Lauriat> Jennison: From a practical perspective, I'd suggest Sunday and Monday or Monday and Tuesday to get more people attending.
13:58:42 <Lauriat> Jeanne: We wanted to be respectful of the pre-conference workshops.
14:01:06 <jemma> https://www.csun.edu/cod/conference/pre-conference-proposals/
14:02:00 <Lauriat> Jennison & Shawn: Prefer Monday and Tuesday
14:02:11 <Lauriat> Jan: That doesn't work for me.
14:02:58 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Yeah, one of the big challenges...everyone has meetings scheduled around the conference already.
14:04:08 <Lauriat> Jennison: So what kind of presentations do we want for this?
14:04:30 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Structural issues, design and usability issues.
14:04:50 <Lauriat> ...companies who've done alternative versions of WCAG. What are their needs?
14:05:29 <Lauriat> ...the people who want a percentage of WCAG, rather than a strict pass/fail.
14:05:54 <Lauriat> ...We want to get people for and against different things around the table to discuss these things.
14:07:05 <Lauriat> Jennison: Do we have to have it structured as a formal call for papers? If we have a set of questions out there and we invite people to participate, sending like 150 word synopsis...
14:07:21 <Lauriat> ...Whereas a call for papers to me sounds like a big work order.
14:07:48 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Especially if we move away from a formal W3C workshop, we could.
14:08:24 <Lauriat> ...The pro for a call for papers: it tends to sift out the merely opinionated, because people have to work to get there.
14:08:51 <Lauriat> ...even a short synopsis may prove good enough.
14:09:48 <Lauriat> Jennison: If we have a call for papers for CSUN, a call for papers for this...people we'd want to participate would probably opt out purely because of the added workload.
14:10:04 <Lauriat> Jeanne: We should also put out invitations to people we want, specifically.
14:10:16 <Lauriat> Jennison: Definitely.
14:10:38 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Should we start putting a list together?
14:11:43 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Also looking to add budget line items for travel for participants to attend this.
14:17:28 <Lauriat> Jeanne: We also need people on the policy end, preferably international.
14:18:38 <Lauriat> Jennison: Do we still need to decide whether we'll do this as a W3C workshop, or anything else that we need to do in order to move forward with this?
14:18:49 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Yes. They need a detailed proposal of what we'll do.
14:20:19 <Lauriat> ...I'll work on that with Sarah. If anyone else would like to help design this, please do!
14:20:30 <Lauriat> Josie: I'll help out.
14:21:15 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Awesome, thank you!
14:21:37 <Lauriat> Jennison: Wondering if we should get together to plan out the November meetup and then bring it back to this group?
14:21:44 <Lauriat> Jeanne: Yes.
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14:25:18 <Jan> James Green from visa - would be a good person to invite:  jgreen@visa.com
14:25:55 <Lauriat> agenda?
14:26:03 <Lauriat> zakim, take up item 2
14:26:03 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Interviews Proposal" taken up [from SarahHorton]
14:27:29 <Lauriat> Jeanne: I need to fill in research questions, I've done some of this in the document.
14:34:58 <jemma> Jemma will put references regarding conformance research both to silver community post and silver email list.
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14:45:08 <Lauriat> Just appeared for me
14:48:46 <jemma> present+ Jennison, JanMcsorley, Joshi, Jeanne
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14:52:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been SarahHorton, Jeanne, Shari, Jennison, Shawn, Dave, Jan, JanMcSorley, Jemma, JaeunJemmaKu, Josie, Joshi
14:53:44 <jemma> present- SarahHorton, Shari, Dave, Jemma, Joshi
14:53:53 <jemma> zakim, list attendees
14:53:53 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been SarahHorton, Jeanne, Shari, Jennison, Shawn, Dave, Jan, JanMcSorley, Jemma, JaeunJemmaKu, Josie, Joshi
14:56:25 <jemma> chair:Jeanne, Shawn
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14:57:22 <jemma> scribe: Shawn
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15:00:41 <jemma> present- Jan
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