IRC log of webrtc on 2017-09-13

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Meeting: WebRTC Virtual Interim

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Chair: stefanh, aboba

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Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2011/04/webrtc/wiki/September_13_2017

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Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Stefan_Hakansson, Bernard_Aboba, Taylor_Brandsetter, Shijun_Sun, Patrick_Rockhill, Jianjun_Zhu, Lennart_Grahl, VIvien_Lacourba

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Present+ Eric_Rescorla

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vivien has changed the topic to: WebRTC Virtual Interim join us on WebEx https://www.w3.org/2011/04/webrtc/wiki/September_13_2017

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Present+ Cullen_Jennings, Randell_Jesup

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[recording now in progress]

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Present+ Jan-Ivar_Bruaroey

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ScribeNick: adambe

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Topic: Issue 1128: Does msid still work?

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1128 Issue 1128

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/pull/1567 PR 1567 Adding `remoteTrackId` attribute to represent SDP-signaled track ID

15:09:17 [adambe]

fluffy: Why doesn't the track id change?

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taylor: Other stuff rely on track id's being constant

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Present+ Dan_Burnett

15:11:17 [adambe]

taylor: Before, you got a new track (with a new id)

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jib: An other option would be to allow changing the track id in mediacap spec

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Present+ Cullen_Jennings

15:22:44 [adambe]

fluffy: I don't like adding something that you can't use in this case, and this case and this other case

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jib: There's also no guarantee that remote track ids are unique anyhow

15:29:50 [dom]

Present+ Justin_Uberti, SHIM

15:32:50 [adambe]

fluffy: Suggests to fix the issue on both sides. This solution only addresses the problem on one side

15:35:30 [adambe]

Resolution: We revert the PR (1567)

15:35:58 [stefanh]

Also, we close 1128 with a comment.

15:37:39 [adambe]

taylor: Should we always generate track id so it doesn't work in some situations, but not in others

15:40:05 [vivien]

Topic: Issue 1161/Issue 1181: What happens remotely when a track is “removed”?

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1161 Issue 1161

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1181 Issue 1181

15:40:06 [adambe]

Topic: Issue 1161/Issue 1181: What happens remotely when a track is “removed”?

15:41:08 [adambe]

jib: I think this is fine

15:42:02 [adambe]

Resolution is to accept the current state after PR 1402

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and we close 1161 and 1181

15:42:18 [vivien]

Topic: Issue 1207/PR 1592: Setting a remote description may cause discontinuity

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1207 Issue 1207

15:42:19 [vivien]

-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/pull/1592 PR 1592

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/13-webrtc-minutes.html vivien

15:51:21 [adambe]

Resolution is to accept the changes proposed by PR 1592

15:51:48 [vivien]

Topic: Issue 1178: Need to describe when ICE and DTLS transport objects are created/changed

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1178 Issue 1178

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present+ Peter_Thatcher

15:54:53 [adambe]

Resolution is to go for the "one object" approach proposed by Taylor

15:55:07 [vivien]

Topic: Issue 1406: When ICE restart results in connection to a new endpoint

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1406 Issue 1406

15:57:48 [adambe]

Resolution is to reuse the same RTCDtlsTransport object when a new DTLS association is started as proposed by Taylor

15:58:07 [vivien]

Topic: Issue 1563: Ambiguities with BUNDLE and ICE

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1563 Issue 1563

16:09:13 [adambe]

Resolution is that we are waiting for the mmuisc feedback

16:09:35 [stefanh]

Issue 1520/1560

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Topic: Issue 1520/PR 1560: setParameters input validation

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1520 Issue 1520

16:09:35 [vivien]

-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/pull/1560 PR 1560

16:13:15 [adambe]

Resolution is that there are no objections to the model proposed in PR 1520

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s/PR 1520/PR 1560/

16:13:43 [stefanh]

my audio has dropped

16:13:47 [vivien]

Topic: Issue 1564/PR 1577: Deciding on resolutions with scaleResolutionDownBy (Pehrsons)

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1564 Issue 1564

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/pull/1577 PR 1577

16:13:47 [stefanh]

will re-dial

16:19:56 [adambe]

Resolution is to floor instead ceil and document what happens if the result is zero (PR 1577 is not accepted)

16:21:11 [adambe]

Topic: Issue 1564/PR 1577: Deciding on resolutions with scaleResolutionDownBy

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Resolution is that we allows aspect ratios to change due to integer width and height rounding

16:27:09 [vivien]

s/Topic: Issue 1564/PR 1577: Deciding on resolutions with scaleResolutionDownBy//

16:27:23 [vivien]

Topic: Issue 1259/PR 1553: What keygenAlgorithm values are supported?

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/issues/1259 Issue 1259

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-> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/pull/1553 PR 1553

16:30:22 [dom]

RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/13-webrtc-minutes.html dom

16:30:59 [adambe]

Resolution is that no one objects to the proposed PR but it needs review

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RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/13-webrtc-minutes.html dom

16:37:25 [vivien]

RRSAgent, bye

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I see no action items