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16:48:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Authentication Working Group Teleconference
16:48:07 <trackbot> Date: 13 September 2017
16:49:29 <weiler> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webauthn/2017Sep/0211.html
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17:09:22 <jfontana> I will contribute
17:09:37 <weiler> scribenick: jfontana
17:09:59 <jfontana> No issues on 498
17:10:11 <jfontana> Topic: 593
17:11:20 <wseltzer> present+
17:11:58 <jfontana> topic: 544
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17:12:15 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/544
17:12:18 <weiler> present+ AkshayKumar, Alexei, kpaulh, battre, jfontana, ketan, Rolf, nadalin, ChristiaanBrand
17:12:41 <jfontana> topic: 545. Angelo thinks it is ready to go. JC has a question posted.
17:12:54 <jfontana> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/545
17:13:17 <jfontana> JCJ_moz is not present
17:14:10 <weiler> regrets: jcj_moz
17:14:20 <jfontana> Angelo: it's ready. But let's wait til jeffH can look at it and merge it
17:14:38 <jfontana> topic 546 https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/546
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17:15:26 <jfontana> Christiaan: suggests to merge this PR. No disagreement
17:15:40 <jfontana> Angelo: it does not break anything
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17:17:18 <jfontana> Alexei: there are some typos. I will fix and merge in.
17:17:45 <jfontana> topic: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/553
17:17:58 <jfontana> tony. this is not a big issue right?
17:18:19 <jfontana> Alexei: it is not a big issue if everyone agrees to merge this in.
17:18:26 <jfontana> Alexei; merging
17:18:50 <jfontana> topic: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/555
17:19:10 <jfontana> dirk, we are not sending this over the wire
17:19:41 <jfontana> alexei: updated and merged.
17:19:58 <jfontana> topic: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/558
17:22:58 <jfontana> direK: think the concern if someone put PII in the field
17:24:56 <jfontana> dirk: wa yI see this, we have to clean up some of things that fell through the cracks and one thing is that we are forgetting to pass ID back to RP
17:25:07 <weiler> present+ dmitriz
17:26:44 <jfontana> dirk: PII has many definitions
17:26:51 <wseltzer> q+
17:27:51 <weiler> ack ws
17:28:03 <jfontana> dirk: we could in the spec say when you pass in this value make sure it is not one of those things that can be user identified.
17:28:27 <jfontana> wseltzer: offering a legal point of view
17:28:48 <jfontana> wseltzer: question will you be sharing PII with someone you were not expecting
17:29:10 <jfontana> christiaan: only one who will see info. is RP. the wire is not in scope here
17:29:36 <jyasskin> q+
17:30:08 <jfontana> akshay: is the solution that we can put anything in here?
17:31:43 <weiler> present+ jyasskin
17:31:49 <weiler> ack jy
17:32:18 <jfontana> JYasskin: we need to alert RP to this issue and let them choose accordingly.
17:32:50 <jfontana> rolf: how is this solved in u2f today
17:33:00 <jfontana> christiaan: u2f does not have this issue
17:34:12 <jfontana> Jyasskin: if userID is PII, then credential name is PII. RP can treat it that way.
17:34:39 <jfontana> wseltzer: some RPs would rather not see PII
17:35:15 <jfontana> tony: put note in there  to say privacy consideration section should be updated. with note about sharing PII with some you were not expecting to share it with
17:37:08 <jfontana> tony: we still are pending the FIDO thing to finish before we merge this one. lets hold off and get the FIDO issue resolved
17:37:15 <jfontana> Christiaan: that sounds perfect.
17:37:25 <jfontana> some open issues hanging around
17:38:23 <jfontana> tony: tryign to triage some issues. i'm moving editorial, non-normative to public recommendation
17:39:16 <jfontana> tony: trying to get us to CR and not worrying so much about editorial, non-normative
17:39:22 <jfontana> tony: want to make you aware
17:40:08 <jfontana> topic: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/507
17:40:16 <jfontana> topic: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/506
17:40:28 <jfontana> these are both about u2f attestation
17:40:41 <jfontana> Rolf: they are good to go in my opinon
17:41:51 <jfontana> topic: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/506
17:42:09 <jfontana> tony: these are the cancel and about issues. #383 is part of that
17:42:41 <jfontana> about should be "abort"
17:44:15 <jfontana> topic: 125  addressed by 507 and 579
17:44:25 <jfontana> Rolf: ready to be merged
17:46:22 <jfontana> topic: 548. mjones is looking at this one.
17:46:54 <jfontana> tony: Dirk opened up 544. asked mjones to look at this one
17:47:38 <jfontana> topic: 557. can dirk explain
17:47:42 <jfontana> dirk dropped off
17:48:01 <jfontana> current topic is https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/557
17:49:39 <jfontana> Alexei: dirk's comment shouldn't public key be at top of attestation. that is what the first statement on 557 is.
17:51:13 <jfontana> alexei will clear up incorrect language to clarify. Will verify with Dirk.
17:51:24 <jfontana> tony: so no issue with this if we clear up the language?
17:51:36 <jfontana> tony: can someone create a PR for this one.
17:51:41 <jfontana> alexei: yes.
17:52:15 <jfontana> akshay: authenticators don't need to change.
17:52:21 <jfontana> alexei: correct
17:53:26 <weiler> present+ angelo
17:53:54 <weiler> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:57:37 <weiler> chair: nadalin
18:01:12 <jfontana> tony: no call the week of Sept. 25
18:01:19 <jfontana> adjourn
18:01:30 <weiler> tony: remember to have AC reps vote on the re-charter.  John will chair next week, 20 Sept.  No call 27 Sept.
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