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14:01:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Payments Working Group Teleconference
14:01:21 <trackbot> Date: 07 September 2017
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14:01:57 <Ian> Chair: NickTR
14:02:00 <Ian> Scribe: Ian
14:02:02 <Ian> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170907
14:02:02 <rouslan> present+ Rouslan
14:02:22 <Ian> present+
14:02:26 <Ian> present+ ChrisMarconi
14:02:33 <Ian> present+ ChristianWeiss
14:02:40 <Ian> present+ mweksler
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14:03:33 <Ian> present?
14:03:42 <Ian> zakim, who's here?
14:03:43 <Zakim> Present: Rouslan, Ian, ChrisMarconi, ChristianWeiss, mweksler, jean_luc
14:03:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see alyver, deganon, rouslan, Zakim, mweksler, RRSAgent, Max, cweiss, adamR, pea13, canton, dlongley, manu, hober, mkwst, natasha, emschwartz, JakeA, trackbot, dlehn,
14:03:44 <Zakim> ... slightlyoff, adrianba, Dongwoo, ShaneM, oyiptong, nicktr, Ian
14:03:55 <alyver> present+
14:04:01 <Ian> present+ MattDeGanon
14:04:38 <Ian> present+ Molly
14:04:43 <Ian> present+ NickTR
14:05:19 <Ian> present+ Ken
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14:05:36 <nicktr> zakim, who is here
14:05:36 <Zakim> nicktr, you need to end that query with '?'
14:05:58 <Ian> present+ Mweksler
14:06:07 <Ian> topic: Checking PMI and PR API to CR
14:06:44 <Ian> present+ Laura
14:08:31 <nicktr> zakim, who is here?
14:08:31 <Zakim> Present: Rouslan, Ian, ChrisMarconi, ChristianWeiss, mweksler, jean_luc, alyver, MattDeGanon, Molly, NickTR, Ken, Laura
14:08:32 <Ian> IJ: I hope to do the transition request tomorrow. Awaiting editor final signal
14:08:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see lte, Ken, alyver, deganon, rouslan, Zakim, mweksler, RRSAgent, Max, cweiss, adamR, pea13, canton, dlongley, manu, hober, mkwst, natasha, emschwartz, JakeA, trackbot,
14:08:33 <Zakim> ... dlehn, slightlyoff, adrianba, Dongwoo, ShaneM, oyiptong, nicktr, Ian
14:08:43 <Ian> ....stay tuned for email re: change in CR exit criteria
14:08:52 <Ian> topic: Rechartering the WPWG
14:09:05 <Ian> Our current charter => http://www.w3.org/Payments/WG/charter-201510.html
14:09:10 <Ian> nicktr: the charter establishes our scope
14:09:15 <Ian> ...it's our "license to operate"
14:09:25 <Ian> ...our charter expires 31 December
14:09:43 <Ian> ....we first met in Nov 2015 ... so TPAC 2017 will represent the 2-year mark, and when we need to recharter
14:10:04 <Ian> ...it would be cool to go into TPAC with a draft
14:10:12 <Ian> q+
14:10:37 <Ian> ...the Members review the charter and we will want to socialize to get their support
14:11:12 <nicktr> ian: there are some strategic options
14:11:29 <nicktr> ...we could be underway with our review before the end of October
14:11:49 <nicktr> ...alternatively we use TPAC to hammer out issues within the group
14:12:02 <nicktr> ...so I sugegst we keep both optiuons open
14:12:21 <nicktr> s/sugegst/suggest/
14:12:32 <nicktr> s/optiuons/options/
14:12:53 <Ian> Nick: Any questions on the recharter process?
14:12:58 <Ian> [No replies]
14:13:03 <Ian> Nick: Some things to think about for recharter are in the agenda
14:13:13 <nicktr> agenda->https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170907
14:13:43 <Ian> Things to do:
14:13:48 <Ian>  * Continue work with revised milestones
14:14:07 <Ian>  * PR API, PMI, Payment method manifest, Payment Handler, payment method specs
14:14:20 <Ian> New things (potentially):
14:14:25 <Ian>  * New payment method specs (e.g., ILP)
14:14:39 <Ian>  * Curation and governance of network name list, etc.
14:14:48 <Ian>  * Version 2 features for PR API
14:15:18 <Ian> Question: Should we revisit non-interactive (out-of-browser) payments?
14:15:23 <Ian> ...e.g., for IOT
14:15:44 <nicktr> q?
14:15:50 <Ian> ack me
14:15:51 <nicktr> ack Ian
14:16:03 <Ken> q+
14:16:07 <nicktr> ack Ken
14:17:07 <Ian> Ken: How would you see us articulating the relationship between the WG and IG?
14:17:30 <Ian> q+
14:18:06 <Ian> Ken: Regarding continuing work, should we be specific or generally say "we will continue"
14:18:29 <Ian> NickTR: I think the more specific we can be the easier it will be to get the charter through the membership review
14:18:52 <Ian> ...open charters raise issues for some members (e.g., due to patent concerns)
14:19:16 <Ian> ...in terms of the IG and the WG, good question!
14:19:46 <Ian> ..the relationship between IG and WG was strong initially but is no longer as strong
14:20:00 <Ian> ack me
14:20:00 <nicktr> ack Ian
14:20:26 <nicktr> Ian: there have been staff discussions recently
14:20:41 <nicktr> ...IG is an industry monitoring grou
14:21:00 <nicktr> ...IG could do analysis of needs and produce whitepaper explaining state of the world
14:21:25 <nicktr> ...over time IG continues to monitor and the working group
14:21:47 <nicktr> ...IG could review specs and critique WG's response to needs/market
14:22:21 <nicktr> ...in short IG becomes more like a "steering committee" which is distinct from the WG's implementation and technology focus
14:22:31 <nicktr> q?
14:22:57 <nicktr> q?
14:23:39 <Ian> nicktr: I welcome more suggestions from the wider group on what we should do
14:23:47 <Ian> ...I encourage you to add your suggestions and thoughts
14:23:48 <nicktr> q?
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14:24:42 <Ian> present+ Max
14:25:34 <Ian> ACTION: Ian to create a GitHub thingy for the charter and people can make comments with issues and pull requests
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14:25:58 <nicktr> current charter-> https://www.w3.org/2015/10/payments-wg-charter.html
14:26:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-wpwg-minutes.html Ian
14:26:27 <Ian> Topic: Polyfill from Digital Bazaar
14:26:39 <Ian> Just Released: W3C Web Payments Polyfill and Demo (video)
14:26:43 <Ian> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2017Sep/0007.html
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14:27:40 <Ian> Nick: This is really exciting and, I hope, bring the work to a broader audience
14:27:43 <Ian> Topic: TPAC
14:28:12 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/FTF-Nov2017
14:28:16 <Ian> Please register if you have not done so
14:29:10 <dezell> present+ dezell
14:29:25 <nicktr> ian: we might want to meet with the web authentication group
14:29:31 <nicktr> ...at TPAC
14:29:50 <nicktr> ...Manash has said he'd like to talk about 3DS 2.0
14:29:57 <deganon> +1
14:29:58 <nicktr> ...if there are other groups then please let us know
14:30:02 <mweksler> +1 on the joint meeting with webauth
14:30:30 <Ian> Topic: Next meeting
14:30:51 <Ian> Proposed: 21 September
14:31:05 <Ken> q+ - who owns producing a draft of WG charter?
14:31:13 <nicktr> ack ken
14:31:13 <Ian> ack Ken
14:31:27 <Ken> q+
14:31:28 <Ian> ACTION: Nick to work with Adrian and Ian to draft a WG Charter
14:31:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-65 - Work with adrian and ian to draft a wg charter [on Nick Telford-Reed - due 2017-09-14].
14:31:39 <Ian> IJ: Should that be available before 21 Sep?
14:31:40 <nicktr> ack Ken
14:31:57 <Ian> Nicktr: Yes...so let's have the draft charter by 21 Sep
14:32:30 <Ken> +1
14:32:39 <nicktr> q?
14:33:29 <Ian> Topic: Implementation
14:33:37 <Ian> Ian: I see Webkit now in development
14:33:41 <Ian> ...that means all browsers are implementing
14:33:43 <Ian> ...congratulations
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