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14:57:16 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:57:16 <trackbot> Date: 07 September 2017
14:57:30 <patrick_h_lauke> present+
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14:57:55 <Kim> chair: Kimberly_Patch
14:58:12 <Kim> Agenda+ Remaining understanding documents assignments
14:58:13 <Kim> Agenda+ Review Touch Target understanding documents
14:58:15 <Kim> Agenda+ Questions on understanding documents in progress
14:58:16 <Kim> Agenda+ Next Steps – next meeting September 14
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15:06:33 <Kim> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC
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15:09:32 <Kim> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC
15:09:47 <Detlev> scribe: Detlev
15:09:58 <Detlev> present+ Detlev
15:09:59 <shadi> present+
15:10:02 <patrick_h_lauke> present+
15:10:04 <MelanieP__> present+
15:11:13 <patrick_h_lauke> i could tackle concurrent
15:13:51 <Detlev> Kim: Device sensors will be accepted with an editorial note to clarify scope (what sensors?) so it tackles motion sensors
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15:15:21 <Detlev> MelanieP_: Not so familiar with device sensors - possibly with help of someone else
15:16:06 <Detlev> Kim: Editing can happen on Github or elsewhere (wiki)
15:16:34 <Detlev> Chris: Happy to help out with Github
15:16:55 <Detlev> Melanie: May work in google docs then Chris will help moving ot to Git
15:17:08 <Detlev> Kim: Permissions issue
15:17:42 <Detlev> Chris: explains Permissions structure owner, pull request author etc
15:18:46 <Detlev> Kim: Permissions may have been changed for the repository - may need to be changed to make edits easier
15:19:04 <Detlev> Chris: Do you want edits on the fly for Github pull requests?
15:19:22 <Detlev> Kim: Does not waht to edit a pull request - edit directly
15:20:04 <Detlev> Kim: Wants to edit in the view ..(soory I give up on keeping track with this technical discussion over Githu functionality)
15:20:34 <Detlev> Chris: Pull request important - no quick answer, but next week
15:21:22 <chriscm> LOL, technical discussion on GitHub probably not important
15:23:41 <Detlev> Chris: two issues: 1 permissions - you need to be careful with two many people editing the same material at the same time - thats why there are branches and pull requests merging stuff into one coherent master branch
15:24:47 <Detlev> Chris: we can create a 'sandbox' for a subgroup of people with broader permissions, do the edits in the sandbox, then something knowing Git better can go in and merges it with the other stuff
15:25:06 <Detlev> Kim: good idea - we used the wiki for that
15:25:27 <Detlev> Chris: requrests a list of repositories that we would need
15:25:36 <Detlev> Kim: Kathy would be the one to do that
15:25:48 <Detlev> Chris: put her in cc
15:27:48 <Kim> https://w3c.github.io/Mobile-A11y-Extension
15:27:56 <Detlev> Kim: Mobile accessibility work before
15:28:50 <Detlev> Detlev: When is the next PWD going to be released?
15:29:33 <Kim> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/target-size/understanding/21/target-size.html
15:30:01 <Detlev> Kim: Kathy has tackled target size understanding in Github already
15:31:04 <Detlev> Kim: Github threads in the issues contain a lot of material need to update the understanding docs
15:32:47 <patrick_h_lauke> +1 reading/discussing long documents like this by voice in a call is not well spent time
15:32:57 <patrick_h_lauke> needs time to think, evaluate, suggest, etc
15:33:08 <patrick_h_lauke> best done async via email etc
15:44:26 <Detlev> Kim: Process: For dicussion, we should prefer github comments on the issue dedicated to the new SCs over mails on the mailing list
15:44:44 <patrick_h_lauke> (i'll note that the way github has been used so far for the process is...suboptimal, but we'll make the most of it)
15:45:17 <Detlev> Kim: Kathy will be directing his discussion, tackling one by one
15:45:32 <Detlev> s/his /this
15:46:20 <Detlev> Kim: Any questions about the template, or any other questions?
15:47:26 <Detlev> Chris: will support Melanie, propose something for setting up Github sandbox
15:48:01 <Detlev> Chris: if we firm up process, the meetings will be more productive
15:48:51 <Detlev> Kim: We finish up early then - get started on the understanding docs
15:49:15 <Detlev> Kim: Will continue MATF meetings at this slot regularly
15:50:53 <Detlev> Chris: Will try to simplify the workflow for our TF
15:51:24 <Detlev> rrsagent, make minutes
15:51:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Detlev
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16:06:12 <Kim> Present+  Chris
16:07:28 <Kim> rrsagent, make minutes
16:07:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Kim
20:46:45 <Kim> rrsagent, bye
20:46:45 <RRSAgent> I see no action items