<lisa> agenda: this

<lisa> scribe: AndyHeath

updates on TPAC, personlization TF, other updates. https://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/

JOhn Rovchford: please add agenda item on accessible authentucation

Lisa: will be part of the update
... add item on todo lists

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/

Lisa will attend TPAC

also Jan and John Kirkwood

<lisa> ACTION: lisa to tell thad about tpac [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-coga-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-229 - Tell thad about tpac [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-09-14].

hope to have some time on Coga

anyone have an office nearby?

Jan and Andy are interested in joining the personalisation task force

Andy: has had some difficulties and is working on it

<EA> sorry will check mic

<EA> will Thad be able to help with specific writing of articles?

Lisa: Michael will help with joining the personalisation TF if needed

<EA> Yes please as he really was a wonderful help with some writing

Agenda item: understanding section of accessible auhtenitcation-: draft will be published by Michael in a few days

John will raise it with Michael

Agenda item: planning

what should we be doing next - get a feel for direction

roadmap supplement has all the info on how to build content thta we know about at the moment - getting this all in shape is urgent so as to have somewhere to point people at

Keeping stuff in WCAG is important - buiding techniques, improving understanding sections

Issue papers on navigation and bots

\issue

updating the roadmap with issue papers that didn’t make it into the first draft is important

<lisa> ACTION: lisa make timeline [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-coga-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-230 - Make timeline [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-09-14].

Jan: on the timeline put a column for people to sign up for stuff to work on

<lisa> ACTION: lisa make timeline [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-coga-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-231 - Make timeline [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-09-14].

JohnRochford: languishing tasks - wayfinding, john kirkwood has worked on it somewhat

also devices such as Alexa - bots

the supplement, moving forward https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#

<JohnRochford> Clarification: John Rochford created and submitted a Wayfinding issue paper draft months ago. John Kirkwood is working on his portion of it.

Lisa: John can you find the link

john will send that to Lisa

JohnRochford: best not to refer to it as bots (there are bad bots). Maybe call them conversational interfaces

Neil: Happy to work on the paper with you John

Lisa: would also like to

Lisa will set up a template in google docs

<lisa> ACTION: template in google docs for converationanal interfaces [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-coga-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Error finding 'template'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<lisa> ACTION: lisa make template in google docs for converationanal interfaces [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-coga-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-232 - Make template in google docs for converationanal interfaces [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-09-14].

Introduction of new member: Jim Griesner

<lisa> level access

Jim; Level Access is consolidating the accessibility industry by buying every one

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/

Neil: the influx of external money is interesting

<lisa> ack j\

<lisa> scott soliar

Jan: Scott Hollier has done much IoT research

<Jan> scott hollier

Lisa: WCAG 2.1 will be published in the next few days so please give it your attention

disseminate the draft widely please

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/

Lisa: many success criteria didn’t get in to 2.1 or were watered down

The roadmap will be the place to document this stuff

<Jan> Google is giving me an error, so I can't call up Scott Hollier's Google Doc right now. I will try again later if I can't get to it during this call and I will submit the information to the list.

Please look at the doc and review, do we like the themes and sections

then we can start filling out the detail

<lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#

<JohnRochford> Jim, IRC = Internet Relay Chat

Jim: are we looking at cognition and memory

lisa: yes

<EA> So would I!

EA: is not audible :-(

<EA> spreading the news to those interested in coga is not easy if we send too much information

<EA> Is there one place we can send them?

<JohnRochford> EA has endless trouble with technology. That's all my fault.

Lisa: this document will be the one place for everything

<EA> I like it when some one takes the blame for my laptop!! Yes the doc will be good if we do not include so many user needs that we befuddle them! Thinking Andy's work

<JohnRochford> Must leave to attend low vision task force call.

<lisa> thnks John

<EA> Yes that is the point - ISO and WCAG links

<lisa> scribe: lisa

andy: the post on issue papers are so close to being userneeds

<EA> Yes common recognition in relation to Coga for this document.

andy: crossrefrences

<scribe> scribe: andyheath

<Jim> If we identify user needs, do we also identify what prevents user needs from being met in the technology?

<EA> The user needs have different categories in the ISO but maybe the first task is to see where they fit with the coga roadmap

<Neil> Welcome AlastairC :)

<EA> Yes the categories match some of the themes

<EA> We can use the WCAG names and also sub categories with explanations

<lisa> wave alastairC

<Neil> There is always next time

Lisa: need for a side conversation on not losing stuff in wcag that we have there

<lisa> alastairC would you be interested in that

Lisa: will write to a few people - Alisair, John Foliot, maybe an open email to wcag

<lisa> ACTION: lisa ask wcag who would like to have a call on how to minimise the risk to sc's [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/09/07-coga-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-233 - Ask wcag who would like to have a call on how to minimise the risk to sc's [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-09-14].

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