IRC log of forms on 2017-09-06

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Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
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Date: 06 September 2017
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Sep/0001
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Chair: Steven
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Topic: Email type
13:03:23 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jun/0038
13:03:23 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jun/0040
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Steven: We agreed to adopt this, but we didn't agree on names.
13:04:42 [Steven]
Steven: We have two types now, ascii email and international.
13:05:04 [Steven]
Erik: We should keep 'email' as the name for the ascii one (backwards compatibility)
13:05:13 [Steven]
Steven: iemal?
13:05:21 [Steven]
... iemail?
13:05:52 [Steven]
... any better suggestions?
13:07:24 [Steven]
... I'll use iemail for now.
13:08:15 [Steven]
ACTION: Steven to add the two email types to the spec
13:08:15 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-2134 - Add the two email types to the spec [on Steven Pemberton - due 2017-09-13].
13:08:37 [Steven]
Topic: Validation and optional fields
13:08:37 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jun/0041
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Steven: in progress; done by next week.
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Topic: <reset instance="id"/>
13:09:04 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jul/0000
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Steven: THis is about all actions that have an ID attribute.
13:09:45 [Steven]
s/TH/Th/
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Steven: Currently if the ID fails to identify anything, the action does nothing.
13:11:28 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jul/0025.html
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Steven: Backwards compatibility problems?
13:13:20 [Steven]
Erik: In a group of actions, if one fails, the rest don't get run I think
13:13:31 [ebruchez]
https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/wiki/XForms_2.0#The_xforms-action-error_Event
13:14:19 [Steven]
... xforms-action-error is a fatal error
13:19:12 [Steven]
Erik: Do we care?
13:19:17 [Steven]
Steven: I can live with the change
13:22:38 [Steven]
RESOLUTION: All actions that have an ID attribute that fails to identify a suitable element will dispatch an action-error.
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ACTION: Steven to implement resolution making actions dispatch an action-error for id attributes
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Created ACTION-2135 - Implement resolution making actions dispatch an action-error for id attributes [on Steven Pemberton - due 2017-09-13].
13:23:36 [Steven]
Topic: Submission echo
13:23:36 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jun/0042
13:24:59 [Steven]
Steven: It occurred to me that we could use mode="echo"
13:26:03 [Steven]
Erik: I'm not opposed to something else than the URL.
13:26:10 [Steven]
... Mode is a bit funny though
13:27:50 [Steven]
Steven: It's not completely unreasonable; it is a sort of mode of sending.
13:29:01 [Steven]
Erik: In a series of actions, synchronous or not could have an effect on how it works.
13:30:07 [Steven]
Steven: On you implementation where you use resource="echo:", does @mode have any effect?
13:30:35 [Steven]
Erik: Good question; I would have to check.
13:31:08 [Steven]
Steven: Let's think on.
13:31:17 [ebruchez]
mode="synchronous echo"
13:31:19 [Steven]
Erik: You could use tokens.
13:31:31 [Steven]
Steven: That could work.
13:31:35 [Steven]
Topic: switch/case
13:31:35 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jun/0032
13:31:53 [Steven]
Steven: This is still pending.
13:32:14 [Steven]
Topic: Dynamic dependencies
13:32:14 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Mar/0012
13:32:14 [Steven]
[Awaiting an example]
13:32:33 [Steven]
Steven: Waiting for an example from you Erik.
13:32:35 [Steven]
Erik: Ack.
13:32:47 [Steven]
Topic: Alert MIP
13:32:47 [Steven]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Jun/0014
13:34:17 [Steven]
Steven: Are we interested in going ahead with this?
13:34:33 [Steven]
... It seems to have support on the list.
13:35:33 [Steven]
Erik: We don't implement this, though we do something similar, linking alerts to the individual constraints.
13:36:05 [Steven]
ACTION: Steven spec up alert MIP for further discussion.
13:36:05 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-2136 - Spec up alert mip for further discussion. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2017-09-13].
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Topic: AOB
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Present: Alain, Erik, Philip, Steven
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