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17:57:58 <tzviya> zakim, this is epubcheck meeting
17:57:58 <Zakim> got it, tzviya
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18:02:55 <tzviya> pass code: Guest Passcode: 743 924 7118
18:03:11 <tzviya> https://mtginfo.pgi.com/globalcallmanagement.asp?bwebid=9820041&cid=da6ee6bfd7ec5a15d77bfcef4d4a&confid=da6ee6bdd7ee5a11d778fcee4d4f82df4254&brandid=1
18:03:18 <tzviya> look up your country
18:03:28 <Tobias> what's the meeting link again?
18:03:34 <Tobias> cannot login
18:05:01 <tzviya> webex is not working
18:05:28 <tzviya> please go to https://mtginfo.pgi.com/globalcallmanagement.asp?bwebid=9820041&cid=da6ee6bfd7ec5a15d77bfcef4d4a&confid=da6ee6bdd7ee5a11d778fcee4d4f82df4254&brandid=1
18:05:35 <tzviya> look up your country
18:05:52 <tzviya> pass code: 743 924 7118
18:05:57 <dauwhe> dial the number, enter the passcode
18:06:23 <tzviya> present+
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18:06:41 <wolfgang> present+ wolfgang
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18:08:00 <dauwhe> https://mtginfo.pgi.com/globalcallmanagement.asp?bwebid=9820041&cid=da6ee6bfd7ec5a15d77bfcef4d4a&confid=da6ee6bdd7ee5a11d778fcee4d4f82df4254&brandid=1
18:08:05 <tzviya> 743 924 7118
18:08:19 <dauwhe> find your country there, call the number, enter the code that tzviya just posted
18:08:58 <wolfgang> scribe wolfgang
18:09:06 <tzviya> rrsagent, make logs public
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18:10:15 <wolfgang> tzviya: none of us did their homework
18:10:33 <Julian_Calderazi> hi all. Can someone post the webex link pls?
18:10:34 <wolfgang> only Tobias and Romain were working
18:10:53 <wolfgang> what could we do to clean up the site?
18:10:56 <rdeltour> present+
18:11:05 <dauwhe> Zakim, who is here?
18:11:05 <Zakim> Present: tzviya, dauwhe, wolfgang, Rachel, rdeltour
18:11:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see Julian_Calderazi, Rachel, rdeltour, Tobias, Zakim, RRSAgent, tzviya, wolfgang, dauwhe
18:11:27 <wolfgang> tzviya: what could be done?
18:12:14 <wolfgang> *congrats and all the best!
18:12:53 <wolfgang> Tobias: 4.1 milestones had precedence
18:13:08 <wolfgang> q+
18:13:33 <wolfgang> Romain: CPO of Daisy, very busy
18:14:02 <tzviya> ack w
18:15:02 <tzviya> https://github.com/IDPF/epubcheck/wiki/TestSuiteCleanup
18:15:11 <wolfgang> Tzviya: new dir structure on the wiki
18:15:46 <wolfgang> *but where is the physical location of the new dirs?
18:15:51 <Julian_Calderazi> here I am (#7) ;)
18:16:34 <Rachel> as someone who is new to this I could use a quick review if there's time
18:16:55 <wolfgang> Tobias: from mid-September a demo clean-up as pull request
18:17:42 <wolfgang> tzviya: instructions a bit confusing, but you need to be comfortable with github and epub
18:18:00 <wolfgang> Julian: familiar with Github
18:19:10 <wolfgang> tzviya: Romain and Tobias will be ready to help
18:19:40 <wolfgang> tzviya: tests assigned to individuals.
18:20:28 <wolfgang> brady found out that tests were interdependent on each other
18:21:14 <rdeltour> brady said:
18:21:15 <rdeltour> Regrets, I will still be riding around in a convertible. I poked a bit at my assignment, but haven't actually done much. Looking at one of my files, it turns out is fairly related to all the files in the directory, and really should be condensed into some unit tests. For instance, two of the files differ only in the way times are specified for clips in MO (and the other two files are based on those two with only minor changes). So not only are there two
18:21:16 <rdeltour> full MO files around just to check time formats, they don't really do a very good job of it; there are bunch of correct values, with essentially no variation and no edge case tests. Ugh. I think they should just be deleted and replaced with unit tests.
18:22:32 <wolfgang> Tobias: as non-developer it's a task that may be too hard.
18:23:20 <wolfgang> Romain: historically, epubcheck uses integration tests rather than single unit tests.
18:23:47 <wolfgang> Romain: clean up the extant integration tests and not set up new unit tests.
18:24:55 <wolfgang> Romain: Brady used scripts to distribute the work. Manually or via script? Create issues on the tracker in case of problems.
18:25:27 <wolfgang> Actual distribution of the work? Related tests should be kept together.
18:25:52 <wolfgang> +1 for Rachels proposal
18:26:58 <wolfgang> tzviya: people should work on what they are interested in
18:27:18 <wolfgang> wait for sample pull request
18:27:43 <wolfgang> and each should look at 5 tests he/she is interested in
18:28:09 <wolfgang> meet at the end of September and check whether this works
18:30:26 <tzviya> rrsagent, make minutes
18:30:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/31-epubcheck-minutes.html tzviya