IRC log of coga on 2017-08-31

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13:16:36 [lisa]
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13:16:41 [lisa]
present+
13:17:21 [lisa]
agenda: this
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agenda+ updates on personlization TF, TPAC, https://docs.google.com/document/d/13hmoaVU563kTio1EZD5mbNxcc0k924qVdZZwWckcbu0/edit# and https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/Understanding/
13:17:24 [lisa]
agenda+ Disseminating the next WCAG working draft
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agenda+ the supplement, moving forward
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agenda+ new issue papers!! updates on bots and navigation
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agenda+ be done
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regrets: EA, Neil
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13:56:40 [JohnRochford]
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scribe: JohnRochford
14:00:03 [JohnRochford]
present+ JohnRochford
14:00:18 [JohnRochford]
present+ lisa
14:11:26 [lisa]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#
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test
14:12:56 [lisa]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#
14:17:47 [AndyHeath]
q+
14:21:19 [Pietro]
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14:25:22 [JohnRochford]
Good persona examples: http://rosenfeldmedia.com/a-web-for-everyone/personas-for-accessible-ux/
14:25:29 [Pietro]
Present+
14:25:37 [Jan]
present+ JanMcSorley
14:26:18 [lisa]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#
14:27:13 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: There are places that need all COGA info in one place, such as education organizations.
14:28:00 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: Our roadmap is designed to have all info in one place.
14:28:21 [JohnRochford]
Draft roadmap: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#
14:29:41 [AndyHeath]
q+
14:29:48 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: References to persona and mapping them to user needs are important for the roadmap.
14:30:56 [JohnRochford]
Andy: Why are persona in front of user needs?
14:31:24 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: I just moved persona to after user needs.
14:31:42 [JohnRochford]
Andy: I would tend to use persona to illustrate user needs.
14:32:31 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: I have identified themes. We don't want them to overlap.
14:33:28 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: I separated feedback from help and support.
14:34:25 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: Themes make the roadmap seem more manageable.
14:35:09 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: User testing and feedback are very important.
14:36:21 [lisa]
q?
14:36:31 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: Critical services must do user testing.
14:36:33 [lisa]
ack a
14:36:37 [Jan]
q+
14:37:02 [Jan]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity
14:38:20 [JohnRochford]
Jan: Perhaps the roadmap doc could link to the Diversity of Web Users doc at https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity
14:38:43 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: I have a lot of questions about this document.
14:39:45 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: My take is that the doc needs a lot of work.
14:40:40 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: We need to reach out to the authors to see if we can collaboratively edit it.
14:42:35 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: The next thing to do is to review the themes, and see if there are any sections that need to be added.
14:44:27 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: We need a broader spectrum of personas, such as programers with autism.
14:45:20 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: Pietro, please put any comments into the IRC window.
14:46:20 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: The next draft of 2.1 is likely to be published next week, and early next week.
14:47:30 [JohnRochford]
Jan: There are organizations in the U.S. to which we can distribue.
14:47:54 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: I suggest we pick up the phone and speak to people.
14:47:54 [lisa]
https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/
14:48:10 [Pietro]
"diversity of abilities" is an old terminology
14:49:03 [lisa]
https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/labels/COGA
14:49:30 [JohnRochford]
WCAG will be accepting feedback from external groups and people, not from TF members.
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14:50:18 [lisa]
AAA should be AA
14:50:20 [lisa]
https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=%20label%3ACOGA%20
14:51:54 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: Support personalization got a new name: common controls.
14:52:17 [JohnRochford]
Lisa: It's a risk. People should say they like it.
14:52:21 [lisa]
people should give feeding back that something is appolise
14:52:34 [lisa]
important
14:54:36 [JohnRochford]
Gotta go, folks. Ciao.
14:54:49 [lisa]
https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/index.html
14:55:11 [lisa]
https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/
14:56:11 [Pietro]
OK
14:57:25 [Pietro]
I have time problems
15:01:22 [lisa]
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/31-coga-minutes.html lisa
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zakim, please part
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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been lisa, JohnRochford, Pietro, JanMcSorley
15:02:23 [lisa]
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I see no action items