12:54:47 RRSAgent has joined #hlreq 12:54:47 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/08/29-hlreq-irc 12:54:49 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:54:49 Zakim has joined #hlreq 12:54:51 Meeting: Hebrew Layout Task Force Teleconference 12:54:51 Date: 29 August 2017 12:55:56 present+ Lina 12:56:28 adenda? 12:57:02 zakim, who's there? 12:57:03 I don't understand your question, Lina. 12:57:05 zakim, who's here? 12:57:05 Present: Lina 12:57:07 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Lina, trackbot 13:00:49 r12a has joined #hlreq 13:01:52 Hi Richard 13:02:03 hi Lina 13:02:17 i'm going to retry joining webex, i think something odd happened 13:02:54 present+ Richard 13:02:58 zakim, who's here? 13:02:58 Present: Lina, Richard 13:03:00 On IRC I see r12a, Zakim, RRSAgent, Lina, trackbot 13:03:25 matial has joined #hlreq 13:04:11 ok, you may be able to join the call properly now 13:04:26 i had to claim the host role 13:04:42 because i wasn't being offered an option to join 13:05:47 zakim, who's here ? 13:05:47 Present: Lina, Richard 13:05:49 On IRC I see matial, r12a, Zakim, RRSAgent, Lina, trackbot 13:05:55 present+ Mati 13:06:14 zakim, who's here? 13:06:14 Present: Lina, Richard, Mati 13:06:16 On IRC I see matial, r12a, Zakim, RRSAgent, Lina, trackbot 13:07:13 https://www.w3.org/2017/07/hlreq-meeting-info.html 13:09:40 agenda? 13:09:55 agenda+ Set agenda 13:10:59 Agenda+ Ongoing discussion on text layout and typography aspects: punctuation 13:11:10 Agenda+ Ongoing discussion on text layout and typography aspects: numbers 13:11:17 agenda? 13:11:18 Agenda? 13:11:38 https://github.com/w3c/hlreq/issues/11 13:12:04 topic: Punctuation 13:14:03 q+ 13:14:53 Mati: stick with Academy's recommendations 13:15:39 Richard: Oxford comma before 'and': in some cases it can be useful 13:15:59 In other situations it can be problematic 13:16:23 ... (in English) 13:16:54 Richard: we rather focus on style requirements not linguistics 13:18:38 Some aspects might still be relevant 13:18:58 Such as not putting period on numbering in separate line 13:21:44 agenda+ Approaches to choosing topics 13:22:48 Richard: even though not well-defined, some ideas: 13:22:50 Topic: Approaches to choosing topics 13:22:52 Approaches to choosing topics 13:23:00 http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/language-matrix.html 13:25:17 E.g. Amharic: v 13:25:21 http://w3c.github.io/typography/gap-analysis/ethi 13:28:29 Richard: what doesn't work should be highest priority in the requirements 13:32:15 ... It's useful information to give as a short introduction on how to use comma, period, etc. 13:32:52 https://r12a.github.io/scripts/syriac/ 13:36:53 Mati: who's the audience? 13:37:39 Richard: ppl creating techlogy, who need to see whether they need to introduce Hebrew specifics, also browser developers 13:38:00 Mati: audience is not authors 13:38:20 Richard: yes 13:39:41 John said "I said to him "Watch out!" quietly". 13:40:12 q 13:41:36 https://github.com/w3c/hlreq/issues/10 13:43:55 Topic: Numbering 13:44:14 Using letters for numbering 13:46:14 http://w3c.github.io/predefined-counter-styles/#hebrew-styles 13:46:51 Mati: different from English, because in Hebrew one can express much larger numbers 13:47:04 greater numbers 13:47:55 In Hebrew is more common like used in Hebrew calendar (not European digits but Hebrew numbers) 13:48:32 Mati: year, day in everyday usage in calendar 13:49:29 2017 ב׳יז 13:51:21 תשע״ז 13:51:34 5777 13:53:35 Richard: makes sense to quote CSS counter styles rules in the reqs document 13:55:24 Mati: need to distribute some home work 13:59:32 Mati will provide content on Hebrew numbers 14:00:25 Lina will cover punctuation 14:00:47 target date: in 2 weeks 14:02:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/29-hlreq-minutes.html r12a 14:03:14 https://github.com/w3c/hlreq/projects/1 14:06:44 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:06:44 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/29-hlreq-minutes.html r12a 14:16:27 I think cantillation marks should be mentioned in "punctuation"