IRC log of wot-sec on 2017-08-28
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/08/28-wot-sec-irc
- 12:02:15 [kaz]
- Meeting: WoT IG - Security
- 12:02:39 [kaz]
- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Elena_Reshetova, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Uday_Davuluru
- 12:04:35 [elena]
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- 12:04:45 [kaz]
- zakim, pick a scribe?
- 12:04:45 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, kaz.
- 12:05:04 [zkis]
- present+ Zoltan_Kis
- 12:05:14 [kaz]
- scribenick: uday
- 12:07:21 [mjkoster_]
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- 12:07:26 [uday]
- kaz can you help me here
- 12:07:43 [uday]
- having problems with webex
- 12:08:29 [uday]
- MK: Discusses issue 32
- 12:08:52 [elena]
- present+ Reshetova_Elena
- 12:09:55 [uday]
- MK: WoT Interface definition clarification
- 12:09:57 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/32 arechitecture issue 32
- 12:10:07 [kaz]
- s/arechitecture/architecture/
- 12:10:55 [uday]
- ER: in threat model, interfaces are directly exposed
- 12:10:56 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/master/terminology.md terminlogy
- 12:11:18 [uday]
- MK: no separate WoT interface
- 12:12:03 [kaz]
- (MK is McCool)
- 12:12:42 [uday]
- Topic: First draft
- 12:12:51 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/32 Thing Description issue 32
- 12:13:16 [kaz]
- @@@ diff
- 12:13:27 [uday]
- MM: change WoT API to WoT interface
- 12:13:45 [uday]
- sorry kaz MM is Mcool
- 12:13:51 [kaz]
- (MM is McCool)
- 12:15:07 [McCool]
- https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fw3c%2Fwot-thing-description%2Fmaster%2Findex.html&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fmmccool%2Fwot-thing-description%2Fsecurity%2Findex.html
- 12:15:15 [kaz]
- HTML diff above
- 12:15:22 [McCool]
- WoT API -> WoT Interface
- 12:15:30 [McCool]
- API -> WoT Interface
- 12:15:46 [McCool]
- WoT Protocol -> WoT Communication
- 12:16:17 [uday]
- ER: to update changes in Threat model document
- 12:16:31 [kaz]
- s/@@@ diff//
- 12:17:13 [kaz]
- topic: Architecture
- 12:17:18 [uday]
- MM: to clean content in TD document
- 12:17:36 [kaz]
- -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/32 Architecture issue 32
- 12:17:54 [kaz]
- q+
- 12:18:50 [uday]
- MM: restructuring architecture document
- 12:20:52 [kaz]
- q?
- 12:21:02 [uday]
- MM: working on proposal of IEEE workshop
- 12:21:43 [kaz]
- kaz: question about restructuring
- 12:22:05 [uday]
- MM: open issue about security consideration is deferred until first draft is out
- 12:22:38 [uday]
- MM: focus on current pull request on TD
- 12:23:17 [uday]
- kaz: should issue 32 be open?
- 12:23:58 [kaz]
- s/open?/open? or once close it and create another issue for the second version after fpwd?/
- 12:26:26 [kaz]
- MM: 2 sections for "Security and Privacy" (3.3 and 4.6)
- 12:26:41 [uday]
- MM: architecture- security and privacy discussion
- 12:28:11 [uday]
- kaz: should we wait for first draft to close issue 32
- 12:28:16 [uday]
- MM: yes
- 12:30:07 [uday]
- MM: goes through changes in document
- 12:30:38 [uday]
- MM: will start to working on PR ofr architecture document
- 12:30:49 [kaz]
- s/ofr/of/
- 12:31:29 [kaz]
- s|architecture document|architecture document once Matthias's PRs are merged (e.g., Thu/Fri)|
- 12:31:56 [uday]
- @Elena: can you post your comment here, sorry i missed it
- 12:33:32 [kaz]
- mm: as Matthias mentioned, we need some more content for security consideration
- 12:33:36 [kaz]
- elena: can work on i
- 12:33:43 [kaz]
- s/on i/on it/
- 12:33:52 [uday]
- ER: to come up with outline of topics needed for security considerations in Architecture doc
- 12:34:23 [kaz]
- mm: we can talk about that next week but we can't include it into the FPWD
- 12:34:38 [kaz]
- ... next week, would like to talk about the IEEE workshop as well
- 12:34:52 [McCool]
- Sven Schrecker
- 12:35:24 [McCool]
- from IIC Security Framework... seems willing to help with IEEE S&P "IoT Security" proposal
- 12:37:14 [kaz]
- mm: program committee should include people from academia
- 12:37:50 [McCool]
- Topics: Threat, risk models, and use cases (for IoT) Lightweight security mechanisms Challenges due to intermittent connectivity Enabling secure interoperability across ecosystems Privacy, identity, and metadata management Interplay between safety and security Integrating systems with different levels of security and trust Distributed trust systems (for example, blockchain) Security in information-centric networks
- 12:39:42 [kaz]
- https://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2018/cfworkshops.html
- 12:42:06 [kaz]
- kaz: you'll bring this proposal to the Chairs call on 30th. right?
- 12:42:07 [kaz]
- mm: yes
- 12:43:11 [kaz]
- ... any other topic?
- 12:43:12 [uday]
- @Kaz can you add your comment here
- 12:43:26 [kaz]
- kaz: a possible IE guy from the DAS group?
- 12:44:13 [kaz]
- ... let's have some more chat during the Chairs call
- 12:44:13 [uday]
- MM: need more connection between web security and WoT security
- 12:44:33 [kaz]
- @@let's... to be moved here"
- 12:44:40 [uday]
- MM: to update the PR and update the TD for first wG draft
- 12:45:02 [kaz]
- s/first wG draft/FPWD/
- 12:45:22 [uday]
- MM: discuss IEEE S&P on Wednesday 30.08
- 12:45:43 [uday]
- MM: will update the references with corresponding items
- 12:46:12 [kaz]
- [ adjourned ]
- 12:46:25 [kaz]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 12:46:32 [kaz]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:46:32 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/08/28-wot-sec-minutes.html kaz
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