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16:22:49 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
16:22:49 <trackbot> Date: 17 August 2017
16:22:56 <joanie> agenda?
16:23:14 <joanie> agenda clear
16:23:17 <joanie> agenda?
16:23:25 <joanie> Zakim, clear agenda
16:23:25 <Zakim> agenda cleared
16:23:46 <joanie> agenda: this
16:23:46 <joanie> agenda+ News and updates
16:23:46 <joanie> agenda+ WCAG 2.1 review requested
16:23:46 <joanie> agenda+ Plans regarding advancing Core AAM to CR
16:23:48 <joanie> agenda+ ARIA 1.1 "actions / status" check in
16:23:51 <joanie> agenda: be done
16:23:56 <joanie> agenda?
16:24:12 <joanie> Regrets: Job
16:24:21 <joanie> scribeOptions: -final
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17:03:07 <janina> present+
17:03:42 <clapierre> present+
17:04:02 <joanie> regrets+ Michiel
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17:05:41 <mck> present+ matt_king
17:07:18 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/ WCAG 21
17:07:22 <mck> scribe: matt_king
17:07:32 <MichaelC> s/WCAG 21/WCAG 2.1/
17:07:59 <jongund> what is the e URL for webex?
17:08:07 <mck> zakim, take up item 2
17:08:07 <Zakim> agendum 2. "WCAG 2.1 review requested" taken up [from joanie]
17:08:32 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/ WCAG 2.1
17:09:20 <mck> mc: next draft planned for mid sep
17:09:43 <mck> but could be sooner
17:10:09 <mck> jd: differences?
17:10:19 <mck> mc: 15 sc added
17:11:19 <mck> for a new total of about 75 sc
17:11:40 <mck> Deliberately allow sc to overlap with each other.
17:12:09 <mck> work between spe and nov will be aimed at fixing overlaps, and could cause number to go down.
17:12:20 <jongund> JG: webex and the MIT phone dial is not working for me today
17:12:31 <jongund> Is there anything you need from me?
17:12:36 <mck> Could cause more diffs with 2.0 as some older sc are edited to reduce overlap.
17:13:31 <mck> The sep draft will be feature complete.
17:13:33 <jongund> present+ jongund
17:13:44 <mck> js: APA will review after feature complete.
17:16:43 <mck> mc: if there are wcag sc that could play badly with aria, the aria wg could potentially make a formal comment.
17:17:17 <Rich> q?
17:19:21 <mck> rs: Concern about potential lack of coggnitive coverage.
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17:19:49 <mck> mc: There are potentially two sc that could be related to personalization.
17:20:11 <mck> rs: also concerned about timing
17:22:27 <mck> zakim, take up item 1
17:22:27 <Zakim> agendum 1. "News and updates" taken up [from joanie]
17:23:12 <mck> rs: Rich is stepping down as chair of aria and stepping down form w3c to retire on October 1
17:23:52 <joanie> q?
17:26:20 <jongund> Thank you Rich, you will be missed
17:29:10 <mck> group: offers a lot of thanks to rich
17:29:33 <mck> jd: Personalization tf cfc passed
17:30:10 <mck> mc: Two coordination meetings so far. Invitation to join is comin soon.
17:30:54 <mck> jg: How will it impact telecons
17:31:20 <mck> mc: If it uses telecons, it will have its ownn and report back to the wg.
17:31:27 <joanie> q?
17:32:09 <mck> zakim, take up item 3
17:32:09 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Plans regarding advancing Core AAM to CR" taken up [from joanie]
17:33:14 <mck> jd: I forgot about publishing moritorium so next deadline is sep 21. Headed to CR for core AAM but not in time for TPAC
17:38:00 <mck> mc: goal to exit cr by tpac. Doint so is important to the AC.
17:42:07 <mck> mc: core aam entering cr by sep 21 makes it possible to enter pr by Nov 2, assuming no tripping points.
17:42:55 <mck> jd: hoping core aam enters cr before sep.
17:44:03 <mck> jd: In addition to wmaking sure implementers have all there mappings in, also working on formatting that will allow auto-generation of testable statements.
17:44:45 <mck> Expect to be done before September unless things like vacations get in the way.
17:45:27 <mck> jg: what is status of UIA testing.
17:46:20 <mck> jd: Getting the spec input from MS is a top priority, more than test results.
17:47:16 <mck> jg: I could have a student start working on the UIA testing automation.
17:48:11 <mck> jd: Let's wait. Remind me about this in a couple of weeks.
17:48:52 <mck> jd: Believe we will get test results from MS, but core AAM mappings is more important rigth now so it can go to CR.
17:49:34 <joanie> q?
17:50:07 <mck> jg: chrome and mozilla are starting to implement uia
17:50:27 <mck> jg: Have found some UIA code in Mozilla code.
17:54:43 <mck> zakim, take up next item
17:54:43 <Zakim> agendum 1. "News and updates" taken up [from joanie]
17:55:20 <mck> zakim, close this itme
17:55:20 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close this itme', mck
17:55:29 <mck> zakim, close this item
17:55:29 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
17:55:30 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:55:30 <Zakim> 2. WCAG 2.1 review requested [from joanie]
17:55:37 <mck> zakim, take up item 4
17:55:37 <Zakim> agendum 4. "ARIA 1.1 "actions / status" check in" taken up [from joanie]
17:56:06 <mck> jd: No updates from b/c of core AAM. I now dream about mappings.
17:57:03 <mck> jg: was on vacation last week. files I sent, were you able to read?
17:57:19 <mck> jd: Have not yet b/c was working on core AAM.
17:57:48 <mck> jg: Working on events stuff; need to make some changes for the isAny value.
17:58:20 <mck> jg: Using Firefox beta. Nightly seems to be breaking AX APIs.
17:58:36 <mck> jd: Have you found the multi process stuff.
17:58:49 <mck> Have you disabled it and then re-run the tests.
17:59:02 <mck> If they pass, then that may be worth filing a bug.
17:59:25 <mck> There should be a stting in preferences to disable multi-processing.
17:59:35 <mck> jg: Haven't found that yet.
18:00:22 <mck> ATTa for Windows is running out of process, which has interesting problems. Does anyone here know how to make it run in process?
18:00:42 <mck> Group: crickets.
18:01:21 <mck> jd: James Te may  know. He is now working at Mozilla.
18:03:05 <joanie> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/jamie-moving-on-from-nv-access/
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