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19:37:25 Meeting: HTML telecon
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19:37:50 agenda+ HTML5.1 2nd edition progress
19:38:03 zakim, clear agenda
19:38:03 agenda cleared
19:38:09 agenda+ HTML5.1 2nd edition progress
19:38:43 agenda+ HTML5.2 progress
19:41:35 agenda+ HTML5.2 implementation report
19:41:50 agenda+ HTML5.2 at risk features
19:45:09 agenda+ #928 Deprecate or obsolete the plugin API
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20:10:49 zakim, take up item 1
20:10:49 agendum 1. "HTML5.1 2nd edition progress" taken up [from tink]
20:11:02 present+
20:11:08 LW: CFC for PR closes tomorrow. It's looking good.
20:11:16 LW: CfC closes tomorrow, seems to be simple.
20:12:01 s/LW: CFC for PR closes tomorrow. It's looking good/scribe: chaals
20:12:26 Topic: HTML 5.2 CfC
20:12:35 s/tomorrow/thursday/
20:12:54 LW: CR CfC closes tomorrow. We should probably have included exit criteria...
20:13:12 CMN: Yeah, although I just assume we don't really change anything...
20:13:28 LW: Indeed, except the reference is to 5.2 instead of 5.1
20:14:27 CMN: so we should perhaps have done it, but I don't see a real problem here.
20:14:43 present+ Léonie
20:14:45 present+ Chaals
20:14:51 ...let's add it to our notes about making transitions.
20:15:05 Topic: implementation report
20:15:45 LJW: This is assigned to Travis. We need about a week to get publication, and then we need the implementation report to get done...
20:16:18 CMN: Suggest 4 week CR. We have a pretty clear changelog, and HTML isn't an unknown quantity even if it is big
20:16:41 ACTION: Léonie to update implementation draft report from updated changelog
20:17:44 agenda?
20:17:52 Topic: Features at risk
20:18:11 LJW: haven't seen any movement here.
20:19:27 ... at what point de we decide that some speculative 5.0 feature like dialog just won't happen?
20:19:34 https://github.com/w3c/html/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22at+risk%22
20:19:36 CMN: when we decide that...
20:19:54 LJW: Suggest we put that one out to the group.
20:20:00 ... for 5.3
20:31:31 Topic: Plugin API
20:31:43 LJW: So are we now ready to deprecate this?
20:32:33 TL: We want plugin API not to be included in new browsers, as well as getting removed from old browsers, so we should seriously think about doing this now.
20:34:44 CMN: Think given the lack of actual removal in browsers, I think we should point the way to this being likely to go, in 5.2, and in 5.3 pull it out...
20:35:06 TL: We could move stuff to obsolete but conforming, too...
20:35:08 Somewhat related, I would like to put shared workers at risk as well.
20:36:17 LJW: Sounds like a plan...
20:36:23 CMN: works OK for me...
20:37:28 TL: So I should aim to have this done by August 7?
20:37:33 LJW: That sounds good.
20:38:10 August 7 for nuking plug-in support?
20:43:00 LJW: We should look for someone else to manage the implementation report, like sangwhan
20:50:19 rrsagent, make minutes
20:50:19 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/07/25-html-minutes.html tink
20:51:15 present+ Travis
20:51:20 chair: Léonie
20:51:29 rrsagent, make minutes
20:51:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/07/25-html-minutes.html tink
20:52:25 rrsagent, please part
20:52:25 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/07/25-html-actions.rdf :
20:52:25 ACTION: Léonie to update implementation draft report from updated changelog [1]
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