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16:03:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Tracking Protection Working Group Teleconference
16:03:32 <trackbot> Date: 10 July 2017
16:04:00 <dsinger> present+ dsinger
16:04:06 <dsinger> present+ fielding
16:04:16 <dsinger> present+ matthiesen
16:05:59 <Bert> present+
16:07:04 <Bert> scribenick: Bert
16:07:45 <fielding> https://w3c.github.io/dnt/drafts/tracking-dnt.html
16:08:06 <moneill2> present+
16:08:06 <Bert> dsinger: See the URL https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tracking/2017Jul/0007.html for matthias's e-mail
16:08:23 <Bert> ... We need to decide on transtion to CR, this week or next.
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16:08:41 <Bert> fielding: We have another week, don't we?
16:08:52 <Bert> dsinger: But I'm not here this week.
16:09:21 <Bert> alan: Notify people on mlist?
16:09:41 <Bert> ... Next week probably also a short meeting, light burden on whoever chairs.
16:10:40 <Bert> dsinger: If no questions today... Then I'll send e-mail.
16:11:11 <Bert> mike: I was going to write some stuff after I read Roy's edits.
16:11:26 <Bert> ... Main thing is Roy's idea to rationalize the API.
16:11:38 <Bert> ... I'm busy this week, but can do for next week.
16:11:48 <Bert> ... How do I do that? Edit the spec?
16:12:03 <Bert> fielding: No, create a Pull Request instead.
16:12:24 <Bert> mike: OK, a PR, but then not confirm it.
16:12:49 <Bert> ... Simpler API returns same kind of object in all cases.
16:13:12 <Bert> alan: a question for Roy:
16:13:22 <Bert> ... why do you believe the doc. isn't ready?
16:13:45 <Bert> fielding: Lacking any real impl. in browsers, and no intention to implem.
16:13:57 <Bert> ... I'm used to no chnages after CR.
16:14:24 <Bert> ... I'd prefer the chnages I outlines that Mike mentioned and more time to explain them and only then go to CR.
16:14:43 <Bert> ... Fine with publication as WD, but it doesn't seem a CR to me.
16:15:01 <Bert> ... I'm used to specs that are implemented by hundreds of peaople.
16:15:12 <Bert> ... Find out if they work first.
16:15:46 <Bert> dsinger: Formally, a CR is a request for implem, but I agree we should have more validation.
16:16:10 <Bert> mike: Why did you say the JS proeprty is redundant?
16:16:41 <Bert> fielding: Reality with DNT is you want to find out what headers would be sent to 3rd party.
16:17:46 <Bert> mike: If you have a piece of JS in a subresource browsing context, you cannot know what the status is, without bouncing it. So a property seems necessary.
16:18:01 <Bert> dsinger: That's the Confirm API.
16:18:12 <Bert> s/dsinger/fielding/
16:18:35 <Bert> mike: it seems we should keep it.
16:18:49 <Bert> fielding: It is still there, it was just my comment.
16:19:10 <Bert> dsinger: So no decision today. Adjourned.
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17:46:23 <Bert> RRSAgent, bye
17:46:23 <RRSAgent> I see no action items