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14:57:44 <vivien> Meeting: WebRTC Virtual Interim
14:57:44 <vivien> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2011/04/webrtc/wiki/June_28_2017
14:57:44 <vivien> Chair: Bernard_Aboba
14:57:44 <vivien> Regrets: Stefan_Hakansson
14:57:52 <vivien> Meeting: WebRTC Virtual Interim
14:57:52 <vivien> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2011/04/webrtc/wiki/June_28_2017
14:57:52 <vivien> Chair: Bernard_Aboba
14:57:52 <vivien> Regrets: Stefan_Hakansson
14:58:01 <vivien> RRSAgent, make logs public
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15:02:15 <dom> Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Vivien_Lacourba, Bernard_Aboba, Jan-Ivar, Jianjun_Zhu, Nils_Ohlmeier, Patrick_Rockhill, EKR
15:02:42 <dom> Present+ Taylor, Peter
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15:03:54 <dom> Present+ Shim
15:04:08 <dom> Present+ Adam_Bergvist
15:04:24 <dom> Present+ Youenn
15:04:30 <dom> Present+ Varun
15:04:48 <dom> Bernard: we're trying to tackle issue clusters in this meeting
15:05:01 <dom> ... we're still interested in knowing features not on the radar for implementation
15:05:04 <vivien> Slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1G8K2-24TEiIUZLf_pDyRRa6eZTXtr08_06W7ltn7XUA/edit#slide=id.p
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15:06:45 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1361: Clarify offerToReceiveAudio and offerToReceiveVideo in renegotiation
15:06:45 <dom> Topic: offerToReceive (issue 1383 & 1361)
15:08:24 <dom> -> https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-pc/pull/1430 PR 1430 to address issue 1383
15:09:39 <adambe_> bernard: PR1430 seems to resolve cullens concerns
15:12:36 <dom> Present+ Randell_Jesup
15:12:44 <dom> Present+ Shijun_Sun
15:12:48 <vivien> present+ Tim_Panton, Lennart_Grahl
15:16:57 <vivien> (we lost EKR on webex)
15:17:22 <burn> Present+ Dan_Burnett
15:17:23 <adambe_> bernard: We lost ekr, so we move on and come back to PR 1430 later
15:18:04 <adambe_> PR 1430 resolution: ekr will comment on the PR
15:18:05 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1174: ssrc in RTCRtpEncodingParameters is inconsistent with ORTC
15:19:56 <adambe_> Issue 1174: The issue can make it hard to implement WebRTC on top of ORTC
15:21:00 <dom> trackbot, bye
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15:21:44 <adambe_> Issue 1174: Resolution is for Taylor to do a PR to remove the odd behavior
15:21:50 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1178: When IceTransport and DtlsTransport objects are created/changed (Taylor)
15:23:25 <adambe_> Issue 1178: When are *Transport objects created? Resolution: the group agrees with Taylor's suggestion
15:25:41 <adambe_> Taylor will create an PR
15:26:28 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1406: When ICE restart results in connection to a new endpoint (fippo)
15:28:42 <dom> Present+ Martin_Thomson
15:29:07 <dom> Present+ Karthik
15:42:36 <adambe_> bernard: We need to continue to discuss Issue 1406 on github.
15:42:53 <adambe_> peter: Issue is if a new IceTransport is created or not
15:43:35 <mt_____> The problem is whether we make new IceTransport objects, or we mutate the same object somehow during an ICE restart
15:43:39 <adambe_> peter: The change should happen when the answer is applied
15:44:12 <mt_____> For DTLS, we agreed that we would create a new object when a new DTLS association is created (a=tls-id change, for instance)
15:44:21 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1306: Obtaining a list of all DTLS and ICE transports (soareschen)
15:45:04 <adambe_> Agreement is to go with the proposed resolution
15:45:16 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1365: No getStats() for DTLS and ICE transports (fippo)
15:45:34 <mt_____> do we have stats to put on these things?
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15:46:49 <adambe_> Resolution is to *not* add getStats() to DTLS and ICE transport objects
15:47:17 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1413: Should even/odd id validation be enforced in RTCDataChannel when negotiated is “true”? (soareschen)
15:48:34 <mt_____> I don't know about this, but can your role change?
15:49:46 <burn> +1 Randal.  Id was only added to enable out of band negotiation
15:52:30 <adambe_> Resolution is to ignore the id value when in-band negotiation is used
15:52:47 <adambe_> Taylor will create a PR
15:53:11 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1423: What if a datachannel “OPEN” message uses unknown priority?
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15:57:35 <adambe_> Taylor proposes that an arbritary priority value should be mapped to the next valid value
15:57:49 <adambe_> bernard: Taylor will create a value
15:57:57 <adambe_> s/a value/the PR/
15:58:47 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1415: When is the dtmf attribute in RTCRtpSender set? (soareschen)
15:59:54 <dom> Present+ Cullen_Jennings
16:04:09 <adambe_> Resolution is that the dtmf attribute is always set for senders of type audio, but insertDTMF method can fail
16:04:50 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1424: What happens if SRD has two tracks with the same ID?
16:10:00 <adambe_> Resolution: MST ids are not unique
16:10:26 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1259: What keygenAlgorithm values are supported? (fluffy)
16:11:01 <jib> Btw, there's the note on remote id's not being unique: http://w3c.github.io/webrtc-pc/#id
16:21:59 <adambe_> Resolution: Is for Bernard to create a PR based on Tim's suggestion
16:22:10 <mt_____> A sequence of dictionaries that are "recommended" algorithms
16:22:24 <vivien> Topic: Issue 1215: Rollback: Feature “at risk”? (Bernard)
16:22:46 <adambe_> Feature is implemented in firefox
16:23:30 <burn> Feature at risk just means you don't think you'll have at least two implementations
16:24:43 <adambe_> Resolution is that "Rollback" feature is *not* at risk
16:24:54 <adambe_> i.e. close issue 1215
16:25:25 <vivien> Topic: Issue 763/1323: Handling of encoding/decoding errors (youennf)
16:27:22 <adambe_> bernard: Currently we don't have error handlers on senders and receivers
16:30:41 <adambe_> Resolution: It's a best effort system
16:31:03 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:31:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/28-webrtc-minutes.html dom
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