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18:24:49 <Judy> agenda?
18:26:10 <Judy> agenda+ Confirm scribe, agenda, next meeting date
18:26:10 <Judy> agenda+ Milestones, publications, announcements check
18:26:10 <Judy> agenda+ Feedback or discussion on personalization draft?
18:26:10 <Judy> agenda+ Authentication bridging multiple groups & TFs?
18:26:10 <Judy> agenda+ EOWG feedback, support
18:26:13 <Judy> agenda+ TPAC, registration etc all order set
18:26:15 <Judy> agenda+ Announcements, topics, reviews for WAI IG?
18:26:17 <Judy> agenda+ Geek Week heads-up
18:26:19 <Judy> agenda+ Any other business?
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18:31:27 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
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18:32:11 <Judy> present+ Judy
18:33:50 <MichaelC> present+
18:35:14 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
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18:36:12 <Judy> agenda?
18:36:21 <MichaelC> chair: Judy
18:36:23 <Joshue108> present+ Joshue108
18:36:23 <Judy> zakim, take up item 1
18:36:23 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Confirm scribe, agenda, next meeting date" taken up [from Judy]
18:36:24 <MichaelC> meeting: WAI CC
18:37:14 <MichaelC> next meeting: 5 July 2017
18:37:39 <MichaelC> could be effective holiday for some US people, advance regrets?
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18:38:12 <Judy> REMINDER NEXT MEETING DATE JULY 5
18:38:18 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:38:18 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Milestones, publications, announcements check" taken up [from Judy]
18:39:03 <Joshue108> MC: Scheduled for yesterday for 2.1
18:39:11 <Joshue108> MC: There was merge request due.
18:39:27 <Joshue108> JB: Are we doing messaging on this?
18:39:50 <Joshue108> MC: As an ordinary WD, I was planning on doing the usual thing.
18:40:44 <Joshue108> JB: Announcements of the drafts seem to be triggering confusion.
18:40:55 <Joshue108> JB: Your next date will be tomorrow?
18:41:15 <Joshue108> MC: Yes, whenever I can sit down. Doing an automated pub - not tied.
18:41:37 <Joshue108> JB: I'll link in with Shawn.
18:41:46 <Joshue108> JB: The confusion is serious.
18:41:50 <Joshue108> q+
18:42:08 <Joshue108> ack me
18:42:27 <MichaelC> joc: ???
18:42:32 <Joshue108> JOC: Could you elaborate?
18:43:24 <MichaelC> s/zakim, next item/scribe: Joshue108/
18:43:33 <MichaelC> s/joc: ???//
18:44:02 <Joshue108> JB: People are worried that 2.0 is being deprecated.
18:45:11 <Joshue108> JOC: We are careful with our messaging that 2.0 is a stable standard etc.
18:45:25 <Joshue108> JOC: We may need to discuss messaging etc to get that out.
18:46:19 <Joshue108> JB: We will try to get some messaging done next week.
18:46:23 <Joshue108> JB: Anything else?
18:46:41 <Joshue108> zakim, next item
18:46:41 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Feedback or discussion on personalization draft?" taken up [from Judy]
18:47:00 <Joshue108> JB: Feedback on personalisation draft..
18:47:10 <Joshue108> JB: I've noticed this doc had gone out.
18:47:22 <Joshue108> JB: I was curious if there were comments from other groups.
18:47:59 <Joshue108> JB: Janina, you mentioned the FPWD of the COGA/ARIA personisation was published.
18:48:14 <Joshue108> JB: This topic has been floating for some time..
18:48:20 <Joshue108> JB: Any other groups looking at this?
18:48:40 <Joshue108> JS: Because this is an ARIA module and DPUB has an interest in this..
18:48:53 <Joshue108> JS: APA is interested in co-ordinating.
18:49:08 <Joshue108> JB: WIll take an architectural approach.
18:49:21 <Joshue108> s/JB: WIll take an architectural approach./JS: WIll take an architectural approach.
18:49:33 <Joshue108> JS: We want to know if anything is missing etc.
18:49:39 <Joshue108> JS: And to what degree.
18:49:51 <Joshue108> JS: We would like a follow up once people have looked at it.
18:49:56 <Joshue108> JB: You have commitments?
18:50:06 <Joshue108> JS: Yes, I will remind DPUB etc
18:50:23 <Joshue108> JS: No comments yet on Personalisation model.
18:50:57 <Joshue108> JB: AGWG?
18:51:02 <Joshue108> JB: Josh?
18:51:11 <Joshue108> JOC: We will look at it for sure.
18:51:30 <Judy> JB thx Josh
18:51:47 <Joshue108> JMD: there was interests in ARIA being spun off as a sub group.
18:51:55 <Joshue108> JMD: That would give it more focus.
18:52:07 <Joshue108> JB: I heard there was some notion of a spinoff.
18:52:15 <Joshue108> zakim, next item
18:52:15 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Authentication bridging multiple groups & TFs?" taken up [from Judy]
18:52:52 <Joshue108> JB: I've mentioned to Janina and Michael that there may be a concern about multiple conversions on a11y and authentication.
18:53:01 <MichaelC> q+
18:53:01 <Joshue108> JB: Need to co-ordinate.
18:53:11 <Joshue108> JB: Have you had a discussion?
18:53:17 <Judy> s/conversions/conversations/
18:53:22 <Joshue108> MC: There is a TF looking at this.
18:53:33 <Joshue108> MC: AGWG 2.1 have a candiate SC on Authentication.
18:54:10 <Joshue108> MC: There was a Web Authentication co-ordination request from Lisa.
18:54:21 <Joshue108> MC: We will take up the thread on this, but it may take time.
18:54:41 <Joshue108> MC: Lisa may need to plan around a longer timeframe for feedback.
18:55:00 <Joshue108> MC: The group is currently looking at a CFC for Accessible Authentication.
18:55:14 <MichaelC> ack me
18:55:21 <Joshue108> JS: Don't have much to add.
18:55:48 <Joshue108> JS: Missed the original communication.
18:55:49 <Joshue108> q+
18:56:09 <Joshue108> JS: Also there is a new chair - so this may also cause a delay.
18:56:20 <Joshue108> JS: We did start a conv with them in Lisbon.
18:56:29 <Joshue108> JS: Dont want to come at them from multiple fronts.
18:56:32 <Joshue108> ack me
18:57:08 <Joshue108> JOC: Apologies if I jumped the gun for you guys.
18:57:16 <Joshue108> JB: No crisis.
18:57:25 <Joshue108> JS: I can see why Lisa was in a hurry tbh.
18:57:56 <Joshue108> JS: We will bring this up again and I'm glad it has progressed in AGWG.
18:58:17 <Joshue108> q+
18:58:33 <Joshue108> JS: Don't know if we need to do a clarification.
18:58:51 <Joshue108> MC: I don't know if this getting much traction, filtering it via APA may be better.
18:59:06 <Joshue108> MC: Lets get the SC in if possible.
18:59:07 <Judy> s/No crisis./No crisis; can someone summarize clarification drafts./
18:59:38 <Judy> s/drafts/steps/
19:00:16 <Joshue108> JOC: There was a comment about the connection between A11y Auth and CAPTCHA.
19:00:26 <Joshue108> JOC: People may think they are the same but they are not.
19:00:43 <Joshue108> JS: Will provide tuts on this via APA.
19:00:55 <Judy> agenda?
19:01:19 <Joshue108> q+
19:01:25 <Joshue108> ack me
19:02:16 <Judy> topic: AGWG surveying accessible media tutorial
19:02:34 <Judy> scribe: judy
19:03:04 <Judy> JOC: AGWG got some feedback from the survey. We have it on the agenda for dsicussion tomorrow.
19:03:43 <Judy> ...There few more substantial issues. Overall feedback was good. Can give you link to results.
19:03:51 <Judy> JB: Sounds mixed?
19:04:16 <Judy> scribe: Josh
19:04:27 <MichaelC> s/Josh/Joshue108/
19:04:39 <Joshue108> JB: There was some concern from EO that it premature.
19:04:52 <Joshue108> JB: I did want a good tech review from AGWG.
19:04:58 <Joshue108> JB: A la WCAG 2.0
19:05:29 <Judy> s/a good tech/an authoritative technical/
19:06:23 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/2017-06_wai-media-intro/results
19:07:27 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
19:07:36 <MichaelC> joc: general support
19:07:41 <MichaelC> but feeling that some groups not covered
19:08:01 <MichaelC> that´s good feedback though may not be a showstopper for publication
19:08:11 <Judy> JB: anything that might have blocked publication approval, even though that is probably just through EOWG?
19:09:00 <Judy> agenda?
19:09:17 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:09:17 <Zakim> agendum 5. "EOWG feedback, support" taken up [from Judy]
19:09:28 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
19:09:28 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
19:09:29 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
19:09:29 <Zakim> 6. TPAC, registration etc all order set [from Judy]
19:09:32 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:09:32 <Zakim> agendum 6. "TPAC, registration etc all order set" taken up [from Judy]
19:09:53 <MichaelC> jb: it´s all scheduled and registration open now
19:09:57 <MichaelC> hotel selling out
19:10:07 <jeanne> q+
19:10:20 <Joshue108> MC: I've sent it to all my groups.
19:10:28 <Joshue108> MC: If more comes available will pass it along.
19:10:45 <MichaelC> s/q+/scribe: Joshue108/
19:12:15 <jeanne> Jeanne: Silver will be presenting at the East Bay Accessibility Meetup at AirBnB.  It is on Thursday night at 6:30.
19:12:39 <Joshue108> JB: Getting it on that page will be good.
19:12:48 <Joshue108> JS: Thanks
19:12:48 <Judy> agenda?
19:13:07 <Joshue108> JS: WAI IG?
19:13:17 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
19:15:21 <Judy> scribe: JB
19:15:32 <Judy> SAZ: Geek week is a double-edged sword
19:15:45 <Judy> MC: Hard to balance cost/benefit
19:15:54 <Judy> scribe: MichaelC
19:16:13 <MichaelC> s/JB/Judy/
19:16:14 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:16:14 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, MichaelC
19:16:16 <MichaelC> q?
19:16:18 <MichaelC> ack j
19:16:22 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:16:22 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Announcements, topics, reviews for WAI IG?" taken up [from Judy]
19:16:47 <MichaelC> <skipped or otherwise covered>
19:16:49 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:16:49 <Zakim> agendum 7 was just opened, MichaelC
19:16:54 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
19:16:54 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
19:16:55 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
19:16:55 <Zakim> 8. Geek Week heads-up [from Judy]
19:16:57 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:16:57 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Geek Week heads-up" taken up [from Judy]
19:17:08 <MichaelC> <got covered above>
19:17:14 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:17:14 <Zakim> agendum 8 was just opened, MichaelC
19:17:19 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
19:17:19 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
19:17:20 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
19:17:20 <Zakim> 9. Any other business? [from Judy]
19:17:21 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
19:17:21 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Any other business?" taken up [from Judy]
19:17:24 <MichaelC> <nope>
19:17:29 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
19:17:29 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
19:17:30 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
19:17:45 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
19:17:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/21-waicc-minutes.html MichaelC
19:18:18 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
19:18:28 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
19:18:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/21-waicc-minutes.html MichaelC
19:18:40 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
19:18:40 <RRSAgent> I see no action items