13:58:48 RRSAgent has joined #wpwg 13:58:48 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-wpwg-irc 13:58:53 Meeting: Web Payments Working Group 13:59:05 Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170615 13:59:13 Scribe: Ian 13:59:45 present+ 14:03:01 present+ 14:03:17 AdrianHB has joined #wpwg 14:03:21 present+ Frank 14:04:08 Present+ 14:04:13 zkoch has joined #wpwg 14:04:18 present+ 14:05:00 cweiss has joined #wpwg 14:05:25 present+ cweiss 14:05:32 zakim, who's here? 14:05:32 Present: Ian, nicktr, Frank, AdrianHB, zkoch, cweiss 14:05:34 On IRC I see cweiss, zkoch, AdrianHB, RRSAgent, Zakim, frank, sam, hober, nicktr, oyiptong, Dongwoo, ShaneM, mkwst, slightlyoff, JakeA, emschwartz, adrianba, adamR, dlehn, 14:05:34 ... dlongley, manu, trackbot, Ian 14:06:00 --> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/Agenda-20170615 Agenda 14:06:01 Chair: NickTR 14:06:22 regrets+ 14:07:08 present+ Andras 14:07:23 Topic: Pull request 536 14:07:44 nicktr: AdrianHB, Ian and I spoke about this on Monday and there has been subsequent discussion online 14:08:00 straw poll last week was in support of the pull request 14:08:44 AdrianHB: The short version of my take - I think that we force browsers to do more work with this proposal. But I am ok to concede to the consensus of the group on the PR 14:09:02 ..however, there are are some bits in the pull request that go beyond data validation that need attention. 14:09:07 Ken has joined #wpwg 14:09:22 ...marcos has changed the algorithm so that it is less about matching payment methods 14:09:41 ...I am ok to move forward with the data validation (though I am not supportive of it) 14:09:57 ...but we need to fix the PR so that it doesn't break things that were previously there about payment method matching 14:10:25 ::looking at recent comments:: 14:10:35 q? 14:11:07 present+ 14:11:21 q? 14:11:35 q+ 14:11:43 ack zk 14:12:05 zkoch: The editors did not meet yesterday. 14:12:16 ..what is the core piece that disregards the original algo 14:12:39 zkoch, see => https://github.com/w3c/browser-payment-api/pull/536#pullrequestreview-44284185 14:12:56 AdrianHB: One piece of the previous text that needs to stay is about matching PMIs 14:13:03 ...that's been lost in Marcos' edits 14:13:16 ...it's about data validation but no longer talks about matching 14:13:23 ...my take is there are 2 steps: 14:13:35 1) Loop through things and validate data 14:13:46 2) Match payment methods and choose payment handlers 14:14:00 zkoch: I don't have strong views on the ordering of the steps 14:14:13 q+ 14:14:42
  • Determine which payment handlers support any of the 14:14:42 - payment method identifiers given identifiers. 14:14:42 - For each resulting payment handler, if payment method specific 14:14:42 - capabilities supplied by the payment handler match those provided 14:14:43 - by data, the payment handler matches. 14:15:05 zkoch: I agree with AdrianHB and Ian that the text needs to address both topics. I will help coordinate the fix 14:15:07 ack ian 14:15:08 Ian: +1 14:15:10 +1 14:15:30 nicktr: Are we in a position to say that we can move forward with the proposal from last week? 14:15:59 The proposal was: "For w3c-defined payment methods (i.e., those with short strings), PR API implementations MUST validate payment method request data that can be validated economically" 14:16:20 NickTR: Hearing no objections, SO RESOLVED 14:16:21 +1 14:16:27 yes, and we need to fix the pull request to reflect that 14:16:38 Topic: Testing 14:18:23 q+ to ask if Ian could point at the test repo in IRC 14:18:33 ack me 14:18:33 nicktr, you wanted to ask if Ian could point at the test repo in IRC 14:18:39 https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki 14:18:50 https://w3c-test.org/payment-request/ 14:19:19 NickTR: Let's also send email to the list to ask for more resources 14:19:33 ACTION: NickTR to send a request for test resources to the WPWG list 14:19:33 Created ACTION-60 - Send a request for test resources to the wpwg list [on Nick Telford-Reed - due 2017-06-22]. 14:20:22 Topic: 14:20:22 Adrian's Excellent Trip Report 14:20:25 Topic: Adrian's Excellent Trip Report 14:20:50 AdrianHB: I mostly wanted to thank Andre and Shopify who attended the hackathon at our Berlin Interledger workshop 14:21:08 ...they spent the day building a payment app (Android) that accepts payment requests and makes payments using Interledger payment method 14:21:27 ...if you run your own inter ledger node, you can connect with others and build a network of nodes that have payment relationships with one another 14:21:39 ...any one of them can pay any of the others even if they do not have a direct relationship. 14:22:05 ...what the hackathon demonstrated was that if the merchant had a node and if the user had a payment app supporting interledger, they could pay 14:22:19 ...the way it works is that there's a URL in the payment request..the payment app fetches data at that URL 14:22:41 ...the payment app uses inter ledger to get a quote for how much it will cost to pay the merchant, and then it makes the payment 14:23:32 IJ: can you say more about the workshop? 14:23:59 AdrianHB: Interledger is being developed in a CG. The workshop was 2 days (first day presentations and demos, day 2 hackathons). We had 60 people day 1, 40 on day 2 14:24:15 ...we did a demo of an inter ledger payment that passed through 7 systems...this demo got picked up by the press 14:24:20 ...I also blogged about the event 14:24:59 ..I expect to have a good demo at TPAC 14:25:12 nicktr: Thanks for the interesting news 14:25:51 topic: 14:25:55 Topic: 14:25:57 TPAC 2017 Registration 14:25:58 topic: TPAC 2017 14:26:10 IJ: WG will meet 6-7 Nov 14:26:15 Link to blog: https://adrian.hopebailie.com/making-history-in-berlin-78f1533787f0 14:26:19 ---> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2017Jun/0016.html Announcement re: registration 14:26:28 Links to all demo stuff from Shopify are in there too 14:26:37 IJ: PLEASE book your hotel early 14:27:33 IJ: We are likely to recharter the WP IG before then and there's a draft charter for a Commerce IG 14:27:50 ...that group would meet Thurs and Fri 14:27:58 https://www.w3.org/2017/03/commerce-charter.html 14:28:44 NickTR: On Weds I am chairing an executive summit in conjunction with TPAC 14:29:07 8 November 14:29:08 Executive Forum 14:29:08 (13:15-18:00) 14:29:25 (No link available yet) 14:29:36 zakim, who's here? 14:29:36 Present: Ian, nicktr, Frank, AdrianHB, zkoch, cweiss, Andras 14:29:38 On IRC I see Ken, cweiss, zkoch, AdrianHB, RRSAgent, Zakim, frank, sam, hober, nicktr, oyiptong, Dongwoo, ShaneM, mkwst, slightlyoff, JakeA, emschwartz, adrianba, adamR, dlehn, 14:29:38 ... dlongley, manu, trackbot, Ian 14:29:47 present+ adrianba 14:30:20 Topic: Other notes 14:30:38 Ian: Good progress on tokenization, credit transfer, payment handler (changes driven by implementation experience from Google and Samsung) 14:30:38 zkoch has left #wpwg 14:30:41 Topic: Next meeting 14:30:46 22 June 14:30:52 RRSAGENT, make minutes 14:30:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-wpwg-minutes.html Ian 14:30:56 RRSAGENT, set logs public 14:37:14 dezell has joined #wpwg