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12:03:37 <kaz> Meeting: WoT IG/WG
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12:04:52 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Elena_Reshetova, Feng_Zhng, Johannes_Hund, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Kster, Michael_McCool, Niklas_Widell, Taki_Kamiya, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Uday_Davuluru, Yingying_Chen, Yongjing_Zhang, Zoltan_Kis
12:05:28 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
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12:06:23 <dape>  present+ Daniel_Peintner
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12:07:31 <kaz> present+ Victor_Charpenay
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12:09:46 <kaz> present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka
12:10:05 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
12:10:05 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kaz_Ashimura
12:10:19 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
12:10:19 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Victor_Charpenay
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12:10:50 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:11:01 <horus> present+ Johannes
12:11:36 <elena> present+ Elena_Reshetova
12:11:45 <victor> topic: OCF liaison
12:12:34 <victor> McCool (MC): focus on 2 devices: light, motion sensor. Definition of prot. bindings
12:12:59 <kaz> s/McCool (MC):/McCool(MC):/
12:13:01 <yingying> present+ Yingying_Chen
12:13:18 <victor> MK: PR on the thing description, still to do
12:14:01 <victor> topic: oneM2M liaison
12:14:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/PRESENTATIONS/WoT%20Intro%20for%20oneM2M%20TP29%20Industry%20Day%20(May%202017).pptx Yongjing's slides
12:14:30 <victor> YC: presentation two weeks ago
12:15:21 <victor> in China, in front of local organization bodies. Same time as oneM2M's F2F.
12:15:52 <kaz> s/YC:/YZ:/
12:16:35 <victor> integration of WoT within oneM2M. Common scenarii, as shown in the last PlugFest
12:17:04 <kaz> topic: ETSI's IoT Week (23 – 26 October 2017 in ETSI HQ)
12:17:29 <kaz> -> http://www.etsi.org/etsi-iot-workshop-2017/call-for-presentations Call for Presentations
12:17:42 <kaz> -> http://www.etsi.org/etsi-iot-workshop-2017/call-for-showcases Call for Demos
12:17:59 <victor> YZ: someone from WoT? I'll be there (on behalf of oneM2M, at least)
12:18:32 <kaz> present+ Masato_Ohura
12:18:33 <victor> MK: is in the calendar of IRTF T2T. Not sure anybody is going, though
12:19:19 <victor> YZ: calls for presentations/demos. They might expect something from WoT
12:19:28 <kaz> present+ Nan_Wang, Takeshi_Yamada, Kazuaki_Nimura
12:19:38 <victor> Deadline for presentations: June, 20th
12:20:24 <victor> JH: What topic do you expect to be discussed there?
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12:21:05 <kaz> [johannes, there is some description at: http://www.etsi.org/etsi-iot-workshop-2017/call-for-presentations ]
12:21:23 <victor> YZ: main idea would be to encourage SDOs to collaborate. Collaboration WoT/oneM2M to put forward.
12:21:51 <victor> MC: I'll see if I can make a pres. But somebody in Europe might be better?
12:22:33 <victor> YZ: also call for demos. Focus on oneM2M. Can we showcase alignment with WoT?
12:22:46 <kaz> [ call for showcases: http://www.etsi.org/etsi-iot-workshop-2017/call-for-showcases ]
12:24:27 <victor> MK: along those lines, specifying precisely what parts of oneM2M are of interest for WoT might be useful.
12:24:57 <victor> topic: presentations
12:24:58 <victor> none
12:25:04 <victor> topic: TF reports
12:25:21 <victor> MC: TF TD?
12:25:42 <victor> TK: I moderated the last call (Sebastian is in vacation).
12:25:50 <victor> discussion around serialization formats
12:26:28 <victor> also TD namespace, asked W3C experts.
12:26:38 <kaz> q+
12:26:48 <victor> MC: question in the OCF liaison: TD templates?
12:27:17 <victor> TK: examples to collect from the past PlugFests, maybe?
12:27:42 <kaz> ack k
12:28:00 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/kaz/protocol-binding.png Kaz's diagram
12:28:17 <victor> Kaz: last TD call, proposal about protocol bindings
12:28:57 <victor> I have to submit a PR for it. Make sense to submit an issue first?
12:29:15 <victor> MC: good idea
12:30:46 <victor> MK: encapsulation as proposed here is good (separate prot. bindings, encapsulation of hypermedia controls)
12:31:12 <victor> TK: other topic was how to use semantics (e.g. for discovery & orchestration)
12:31:38 <victor> Michael Koster defined use cases, Darko proposed something based on that
12:32:17 <victor> MK: need a follow-up (issue)
12:32:28 <victor> DA: please let me know, so that I can comment
12:32:47 <victor> TK: that was all.
12:32:59 <victor> MC: LD TF?
12:33:11 <victor> DA: nothing new, no telco last week.
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12:33:27 <victor> MC: Security TF?
12:33:44 <victor> ER: threat model available
12:34:04 <victor> examples still to provide
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12:34:22 <victor> PR for that.
12:34:43 <victor> MC: procedure to merge PRs in the IG? (Not WG)
12:35:52 <victor> Kaz: Yongjing (chair) should decide. TF leaders should approve. Elena needs to be part of the editors
12:36:12 <victor> (to add)
12:36:51 <kaz> s/Yongjing (chair) should decide./co-Chairs like you (McCool and Yongjing) can make the decision about the procedure./
12:37:21 <kaz> s/TF leaders should approve./I think the TF leaders should have permission to approve pullrequests./
12:38:11 <kaz> s/(to add)/MC: let's have discussion offline later./
12:38:20 <victor> MC: Scripting TF?
12:38:44 <victor> JH: could not moderate last call. Zoltan?
12:39:02 <victor> ZK: issue regarding synchronization
12:39:28 <victor> common call with security next Monday
12:40:15 <victor> topic: F2F Logistics
12:40:36 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_9-13_July_2017,_D%C3%BCsseldorf,_Germany f2f wiki
12:41:11 <victor> MC: registration page is up.
12:41:39 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201707/results Registration results so far
12:41:40 <victor> please register.
12:42:51 <victor> still no recommended hotel
12:43:52 <victor> Uday: Still waiting for the list. Will update right after the meeting with other alternatives
12:44:14 <kaz> s/the meeting/this meeting/
12:44:45 <victor> Quick update: separate payment for the restaurant (+ tour). Could articipants pay cash at the venue?
12:44:56 <victor> MC: amount?
12:45:11 <kaz> s/articipants/participants/
12:45:20 <victor> Uday: deadline for registration is June, 12th
12:45:45 <victor> Needed for the Düsseldorf Congress Center
12:46:18 <victor> MC: last time, last minute registration for the Open Day. Should be avoided for meeting days.
12:48:01 <victor> Uday: external attendees: CEO of Lemonbeat will present. Matthias spoke about someone from SigFox?
12:48:58 <victor> MC: agenda for the Open Day should be set soon
12:50:17 <victor> topics?
12:50:32 <victor> MK: is iot.schema.org in the scope?
12:50:36 <victor> MC: sure
12:51:42 <victor> JH: reached out to somebody from Microsoft (about Azure/WoT API). Still early
12:52:36 <victor> topic: AOB?
12:53:06 <victor> MC: iot.schema.org is something we could discuss? Or is it too early?
12:54:07 <victor> MK: is a good idea. Intention is that anybody (not only semantic geeks) uses it. Raise awareness in our group might be a good idea.
12:54:42 <victor> either next call or the one after.
12:56:57 <victor> MC: end of the meeting
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12:58:13 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:58:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:58:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/07-wot-minutes.html kaz
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