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18:32:18 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
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18:32:33 <janina> present+
18:32:46 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
18:32:46 <Zakim> Present: janina
18:33:01 <shawn> present+ Shawn, Judy, Joanmarie_Diggs, Shadi
18:33:33 <Judy> agenda?
18:33:37 <Judy> agenda+ Confirm scribe, agenda, subsequent meeting date
18:33:37 <Judy> agenda+ Milestones, publications, announcements check
18:33:37 <Judy> agenda+ EOWG, update of recent & current work
18:33:37 <Judy> agenda+ EOWG, advanced charter review in progress
18:33:38 <Judy> agenda+ Digital publishing accessibility work; recap groups, deliverables
18:33:40 <Judy> agenda+ TPAC, general schedule should be just announced. Joint meetings?
18:33:42 <Judy> agenda+ Any replies back on horizontal review checklist reviews?
18:33:44 <Judy> agenda+ Upcoming M-Enabling Conference, coordination points?
18:33:46 <Judy> agenda+ Announcements, topics, reviews for WAI IG?
18:33:48 <Judy> agenda+ Any other business?
18:35:00 <shawn> [13:30] * Judy go!waicc!
18:35:04 <Judy> Agenda+ Request for APA review/discussion of issue with proposed 'Character Key Shortcuts': https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/single-key-shortcuts_ISSUE-69/guidelines/#character-key-shortcuts
18:35:18 <Judy> zakim, pick a victim
18:35:18 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Judy
18:35:26 <janina> scribe: janina
18:36:07 <tzviya> present+
18:36:19 <Judy> zakim, take up next item
18:36:19 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Confirm scribe, agenda, subsequent meeting date" taken up [from Judy]
18:36:35 <janina> jb: Next meeting on the 21st. Any expected unavailability?
18:36:49 <Judy> zakim, take up next item
18:36:49 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Judy
18:36:56 <Judy> zakim, close item 1
18:36:56 <Zakim> agendum 1, Confirm scribe, agenda, subsequent meeting date, closed
18:36:57 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
18:36:57 <Zakim> 2. Milestones, publications, announcements check [from Judy]
18:37:00 <Judy> zakim, take up next item
18:37:00 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Milestones, publications, announcements check" taken up [from Judy]
18:39:14 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
18:39:14 <Zakim> Present: janina, Shawn, Judy, Joanmarie_Diggs, Shadi, tzviya
18:39:29 <shawn> present+ George, Katie, Michael, Josh
18:39:41 <AWK> +AWK
18:40:00 <shawn> present- michael
18:40:03 <janina> janina: COGA/ARIA Personalization FPWD published.
18:40:19 <George> George has joined #waicc
18:40:27 <janina> awk: Working draft for WCAG 2.1 expected later in June.
18:40:38 <George> present+ George
18:41:48 <janina> zakim, next item
18:41:48 <Zakim> agendum 3. "EOWG, update of recent & current work" taken up [from Judy]
18:42:08 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/EOWG_Current_Projects
18:42:08 <shawn> first draft redesigned home page: <https://visa.invisionapp.com/share/YPAVCUZA9#/screens/234693428_Home_Page>
18:42:19 <janina> jb: EO Charter is being updated in coming months.
18:42:20 <shawn> Draft charter: <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/charter2017>
18:42:20 <shawn> Member e-mail: <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2017AprJun/0094.html>
18:42:20 <shawn> Includes: "We welcome your general expressions of interest and support on
18:42:21 <shawn> <w3c-ac-forum@w3.org>."
18:42:30 <janina> jb: An advance notice of work has gone to the AC
18:43:45 <janina> jb: It's important to get feedback from all WAI groups on this
18:44:03 <Joshue108> Agenda+ Request for APA review/discussion of issue with proposed 'Character Key Shortcuts'
18:44:32 <janina> sh: We've finished all but one milestone
18:44:54 <janina> sh: Moving slowly, but moving on the redesign
18:45:11 <janina> sh: Main focus in new recharter is to update all resources
18:45:29 <janina> sh: e.g. more skimmable, fresh perspectives, etc
18:45:31 <George> q+
18:45:50 <janina> jb: Requests from public to update?
18:45:52 <janina> sh: Yes
18:46:09 <shawn> ack g
18:46:16 <janina> sh: We're responding to member and public requests
18:46:45 <janina> gk: We're getting requests for cut and paste examples of correct coding for various elements
18:47:17 <janina> gk: Anything like that exist?
18:47:18 <Judy> s/requests/requests for chartered work/
18:47:35 <janina> khs: There are techniques, we could do this there
18:47:36 <tzviya> q+
18:48:13 <janina> sh: Also have tutorials that address some things
18:48:33 <janina> sh: The one deliverable we've not finished is a list of accessible components, e.g. accessible date picker
18:48:43 <shawn> ack t
18:50:07 <janina> ts: Not sure we can succeed at best practices on this, partly because we'd never finish, and because publishers can be reluctant on their solutions
18:50:15 <janina> ts: Could do examples
18:50:38 <Judy> q+
18:50:45 <janina> ts: Images can be a problem, if you describe the image too well, it can give away the answer
18:51:14 <janina> gk: Seems like fundamental techniques should get you a good way to the good solution
18:52:27 <janina> jb: Noting that assessment examples may be different from other publishing use cases
18:52:36 <shawn> ack j
18:53:07 <janina> jb: EO is similar to APA in that it provides service to other W3C groups
18:53:58 <shawn> q+ to ask AC rep to speak up (esp AC list with +1s) and comments welcome
18:53:58 <Judy> agenda?
18:54:37 <janina> sh: Noting that expressed support is welcome on the AC list.
18:54:55 <shawn> ack me
18:54:55 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to ask AC rep to speak up (esp AC list with +1s) and comments welcome
18:55:08 <janina> jb: Also concerns, of course, so we can cover all that's needed
18:55:11 <janina> zakim, next item
18:55:11 <Zakim> agendum 4. "EOWG, advanced charter review in progress" taken up [from Judy]
18:55:51 <janina> zakim, close this item
18:55:51 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
18:55:52 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
18:55:52 <Zakim> 5. Digital publishing accessibility work; recap groups, deliverables [from Judy]
18:55:54 <janina> zakim, next item
18:55:54 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Digital publishing accessibility work; recap groups, deliverables" taken up [from Judy]
18:56:25 <janina> jb: Primarily on the agenda today to discuss ISO coordination
18:56:46 <shawn> EOWG charter comments encourged this week so we can get them addressed
18:56:54 <janina> gk: Wanting to take epub standard to ISO
18:57:22 <janina> gk: E.U. is in need of a standard for digital publishing, but this spec is not a W3C recommendation
18:57:32 <janina> gk: Getting ISO could help prevent forking, etc
18:58:06 <Judy> s/discuss ISO coordination/because of the mention of ISO coordination (I realized that wasn't aware of all of your relevant epub accessibility documents)/
18:58:10 <tzviya> https://www.idpf.org/epub/a11y/accessibility.html
18:58:26 <George> http://www.idpf.org/epub/a11y/accessibility.html
18:59:02 <janina> jb: Because not a formal W3C, probably not a candidate for the defined ISO/W3C process
18:59:41 <janina> gk: Noting that this is already an ISO Technical Specification -- as opposed to an ISO Standard
19:00:43 <janina> jb: Suggesting we put expected W3C specs that may be candidates for ISO in the months and years ahead
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19:01:05 <janina> ts: Need in Korea for ISO standardization, and expecting this will be discussed
19:01:42 <janina> gk: In the future, of course, the chartered work of the D-Pub WG
19:02:00 <Judy> agenda?
19:02:00 <janina> jb: So Bill McCoy needs to be plugged in on this
19:02:03 <janina> zakim, next item
19:02:05 <Zakim> agendum 6. "TPAC, general schedule should be just announced. Joint meetings?" taken up [from Judy]
19:02:37 <janina> jb: Expect TPAC schedule should be out today
19:03:11 <janina> awk: Not yet, but Susan expecting it soon
19:04:35 <janina> jb: Reminding groups to ask now about any desired joint meetings
19:04:58 <janina> jb: WCAG?
19:05:11 <janina> awk: Hopefully, none! We should be heads down
19:05:41 <Judy> agenda?
19:05:46 <janina> zakim, next item
19:05:47 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Any replies back on horizontal review checklist reviews?" taken up [from Judy]
19:05:57 <George> W3C Publishing Summit: How Web technologies are shaping publishing today, tomorrow, and
19:05:58 <George> Thursday November 9 and half day 10.beyond"
19:06:40 <janina> jb: As previously discussed, still looking for feedback on what's missing, or what may be able to be better stated
19:07:31 <janina> jb: Please review from our various subject area foci
19:07:52 <janina> jb: Anyone able to look at since our last call?
19:07:56 <janina> [crickers]
19:08:17 <AWK> s/crickers/crickets
19:08:29 <janina> zakim, next item
19:08:29 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Upcoming M-Enabling Conference, coordination points?" taken up [from Judy]
19:08:44 <janina> jb: Upcoming next week in DC
19:09:10 <janina> jb: Monday-Wednesday -- usually good networking
19:09:36 <janina> jb: AWK will be talking WCAG 2.1
19:09:46 <janina> jb: I'll be discussing update of WCAG generally
19:10:50 <janina> jb: Any networking requests -- people I should look for to recruit?
19:11:20 <tzviya> q+
19:11:56 <janina> ts: Area we need in D-Pub is hard core sciences accessibility.
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19:14:20 <janina> ts: Problem is that everything is captured in images, and we need a serious subject matter expert to correctly alt tag the images
19:14:32 <janina> jb: Maybe another approach
19:14:56 <Judy> agenda?
19:15:11 <janina> zakim, take up item 12
19:15:11 <Zakim> agendum 12. "Request for APA review/discussion of issue with proposed 'Character Key Shortcuts'" taken up [from Joshue108]
19:15:28 <Joshue108> zakim, drop item 12
19:15:28 <Zakim> agendum 12, Request for APA review/discussion of issue with proposed 'Character Key Shortcuts', dropped
19:15:40 <janina> jb: Link in item 11
19:16:19 <Judy> agenda?
19:16:20 <Joshue108> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/single-key-shortcuts_ISSUE-69/guidelines/#character-key-shortcuts
19:16:20 <janina> josh: A request for coord with APA re SC criteria
19:16:28 <Judy> zakim, close item 8
19:16:28 <Zakim> agendum 8, Upcoming M-Enabling Conference, coordination points?, closed
19:16:30 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
19:16:30 <Zakim> 9. Announcements, topics, reviews for WAI IG? [from Judy]
19:16:39 <Judy> zakim, close item 11
19:16:39 <Zakim> agendum 11, Request for APA review/discussion of issue with proposed 'Character Key Shortcuts':
19:16:41 <Zakim> ... https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/single-key-shortcuts_ISSUE-69/guidelines/#character-key-shortcuts, closed
19:16:41 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
19:16:41 <Zakim> 9. Announcements, topics, reviews for WAI IG? [from Judy]
19:16:44 <janina> josh: Need a bypass for single key shortcuts
19:17:10 <janina> josh: Competes with other AT
19:17:46 <janina> josh: Jason White has requested review and potential request for APA review, or ARIA review
19:17:57 <Joshue108> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/character-key-issue69/results
19:19:01 <janina> khs: Discovered this myself using speech reco when logging in
19:19:10 <janina> khs: Didn't work in password entry
19:19:40 <Joshue108> q+
19:19:49 <Joshue108> q-
19:20:22 <tzviya> q-
19:20:24 <Joshue108> q+ to say that we wish to do due diligence
19:20:52 <Joshue108> ack me
19:20:52 <Zakim> Joshue, you wanted to say that we wish to do due diligence
19:21:35 <janina> q+
19:24:51 <Judy> agenda?
19:25:10 <janina> topic: Closing Items -- Anything?
19:25:23 <janina> topic: Other Business
19:25:44 <AWK> Regrets for June 21
19:25:52 <tzviya> Regrets for June 21
19:25:59 <janina> Regrets from GK and KHS for the 21st
19:26:37 <janina> zakim, bye
19:26:37 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, Shawn, Judy, Joanmarie_Diggs, Shadi, tzviya, George, Katie, Michael, Josh, AWK
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19:26:43 <janina> rrsagent, make log public
19:26:48 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
19:26:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/07-waicc-minutes.html janina
19:28:21 <janina> rrsagent, bye
19:28:21 <RRSAgent> I see no action items