IRC log of wcag-act on 2017-06-05
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- Zakim, this will be
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- Meeting: Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference
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- Date: 05 June 2017
- 13:50:34 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
- 13:50:46 [Wilco]
- agenda?
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- clear agenda
- 13:50:57 [Wilco]
- agenda+ Status of va11ys use of the ACT test case format
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- agenda+ Versioning of rules
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- agenda+ Accessibility support discussion
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- agenda+ Negative tests
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- present+
- 14:01:40 [ChrisLoiselle]
- present+
- 14:01:44 [Wilco]
- present+
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- present +
- 14:05:19 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Scribe: ChrisLoiselle
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "Versioning of rules" taken up [from Wilco]
- 14:06:16 [ChrisLoiselle]
- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Status of va11ys use of the ACT test case format" taken up [from Wilco]
- 14:08:25 [Wilco]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Testing_Resources
- 14:09:56 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Charu: We worked on how to incorporate the va11ys examples and Deque. Moe Kraft and I found that examples all pass. How would we put in the JSON fail pass format?
- 14:11:53 [Wilco]
- https://github.com/IBMa/Va11yS
- 14:12:44 [Charu]
- https://github.com/IBMa/Va11yS/blob/master/HTML5/button.html
- 14:14:08 [Wilco]
- https://rawgit.com/IBMa/Va11yS/master/HTML5/button.html
- 14:14:09 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Button example doesn't have any pass fail defined. Possibility to reformat to have it consumable by JSON.
- 14:15:07 [Wilco]
- "a11y-testcases": [{
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- "url": "https://rawgit.com/IBMa/Va11yS/master/HTML5/button.html",
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- "successCriteria": ["wcag20:4.1.2"]
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- }]
- 14:15:58 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Wilco: Might want to point to URL, then indicate SC you are referring to. WCAG ID should be used.
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- ensure-compat-rsv
- 14:16:41 [ChrisLoiselle]
- 4.1.2's WCAG ID is ensure-compat-rsv
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- "main > h1 + *"
- 14:18:53 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Charu : We will work to include success criteria in the formatting.
- 14:19:02 [Wilco]
- agenda?
- 14:20:18 [Wilco]
- https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/92
- 14:20:42 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Wilco: We will look into pull requests due to limited number of people on call.
- 14:20:58 [ChrisLoiselle]
- First pull request: Outcomes undetermined
- 14:21:54 [ChrisLoiselle]
- MaryJo : Using terms to define term is not good practice. Possibly reword the definition.
- 14:22:54 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Wilco: What was reason behind change of definition?
- 14:24:42 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Charu: We will reword. Will include "because" human [...] is needed
- 14:25:02 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Charu: We will append the pull request.
- 14:25:15 [Wilco]
- https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/90
- 14:28:02 [Wilco]
- This includes test rules that are verified through automated, semi-automated and manual tests.
- 14:28:03 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Wilco: Reviewing.Update act-rules-format.bs, looking at Moe's comments on manual, semi-automated and automated tests.
- 14:29:16 [Wilco]
- This includes test rules that are fully-automatic, semi-automatic, and manually.
- 14:30:01 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Charu: Change manually to manual. Wilco agrees
- 14:30:58 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Wilco, general comment from me: Think we would need a minor edit on rule format: on 6.2 Outcome: Sentence reads "Cannot tell: It is unclear whether or not the Test Target passes of rails the test". I think this should read as "fails the test"
- 14:31:13 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Found on https://w3c.github.io/wcag-act/act-rules-format.html
- 14:33:07 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Wilco: We will continue on the agenda next week.
- 14:33:53 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Charu: Will take a look at the format hopefully this week.
- 14:35:16 [ChrisLoiselle]
- zakim, make minutes public
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- I don't understand 'make minutes public', ChrisLoiselle
- 14:35:46 [ChrisLoiselle]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/05-wcag-act-minutes.html ChrisLoiselle
- 14:36:22 [ChrisLoiselle]
- rrsagent, set logs world-visible
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/05-wcag-act-minutes.html ChrisLoiselle
- 14:37:08 [ChrisLoiselle]
- Wilco, will do. I'll update the scribe list (if I have access).
- 14:37:36 [ChrisLoiselle]
- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
- 14:37:36 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been rdeltour, Wilco, Manoj, Sujasree, Shadi, maryjom, ChrisLoiselle
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/05-wcag-act-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see no action items